Smoking with birds in a car ?????

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I really was talking about the health benefits of flight vs being unable to fly. I was not trying to argue clipping.
 
I really was talking about the health benefits of flight vs being unable to fly. I was not trying to argue clipping.

I agree that a bird capable of flying is healthier, just like a person who runs, hikes, swims. I don't think a bird who is clipped will ever be as fit as a flighted bird, even if they are flapping on occasion.
 
Back to the doctor ,Antionette Im so glad the doctor went up and actually called these people out on what they were doing. So many times we see things like that,and nothings said out of politeness. Which makes that continue on .Shame on them ,I hope they were embarassed.
 
I really was talking about the health benefits of flight vs being unable to fly. I was not trying to argue clipping.

I agree with you on the benefits of flying. My apologies if I misunderstood.
 
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I do not smoke and to be honest a doctor or vet would be in a right to tell someone off if they put a parrot or babies and children in contact to second hand smoke. I do kind of think it is up to the owner to decide whether it is best to clip or not. I am letting my bird's wing feathers grow out (she came to me clipped). She will fly a little ways to her cage. However, I heard of cases where parrots will not fly or do not know how to fly.
 
I can't imagine how anyone would compare clipping wings with poisoning a bird with second hand smoke. One is negligent torture, the other is an informed choice based ont he living circumstances of the bird and family.
 
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