Should I?

Just watched the video
I'm not sure it's all that demonic, Bosley has a voice something like that and he's a sweet bird. He also came to me swearing, a year later still swears some of the time LOL

Bosley never tried to attack me though, but I did give him lots of breathing room in the beginning. He is now my best buddy and he was a mans bird for 30 years. Bos was never big on treats, but a warm dinner was the way to melt his heart.

Gina you have had a ton more experience that I would ever hope to have, but the best advice I ever got was avoid the bite no matter what with the big birds. So sorry about your finger.
 
Jackie was apparently a man's bird before his man passed away... And then he switched teams :D so it is possible...
 
It will take more than a week for a bird to accept you. I know you went into this situation to help the bird and if he doesn't change in a few months, then find him another home as long as the new owners are aware of his background. It would be terrible if he is returned.

I wouldn't let the bird out until he had an attitude adjustment and realizes no harm will come to him. I disagree with Pajarita about wing clipping. This is not punishment, this is a safety issue. Think logically. You cannot allow a bird who attacks freedom. Who knows what he will do out of anger or fright and there are many hazards in a house if he is not accustomed to being out of his cage.

I think GinaF is doing an excellent job considering what she has to deal with. This bird will need time, kindness and patience to change. Opening the cage door and allowing it to do whatever it pleases at this point is not going to change his attitude. Knowing he can do whatever he wants, might make the situation worse. GinaF didn't have to take in this bird. Pajarita, your negative comment regarding her abilities was not nice. That is a low blow to a fellow member who is doing the best she can with what she has. I would not have done anything different.
 
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Bosley came home to me with wings clipped, he could still fly.
Gina you've been in rescue, you must do what you feel is right and you do have children in the house to think of as well.
I hope he comes around for you I really do, are you able to have a male friend come over to see if his preference really is men or if he's just scared and being an a**?
 
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A week is nothing!!! It takes much longer than that to calm down an aggressive bird which is, most likely, sexually frustrated and physically uncomfortable. And he might not attack your boy but he wasn't happy at all with him putting his face to him like that (see how he had his neck feathers up, was whipping his head and biting the atom?). He needs to be let out on his own (nobody approaching him at all) with just people calmly walking around doing their business not too close to him and without interacting except an occasional verbal one.

Please don't clip him! He is such a magnificent animal and he doesn't deserve the punishment. I know that you took him in to do him a favor and that was very kind of you but maybe you were not as prepared as you thought you were to handle an aggressive zon...
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Pajarita,

I know you mean well but every situation is different and every bird calls for some level of creativity to get them through their issues. He's one of those. No one is ever fully prepared to take on an aggressive bird. You do the best you can with what resources you have available to you. We try different things until we find something that they respond positively to. He needs time to calm down and that could very well take months. But I will not keep him locked in a cage or a closet in the house. Half of adjusting to something is exposure. And with that, there are always risks. On the other hand, it may never happen. It's too soon to tell. I'm fine with that. I don't HAVE to hold him and pet him to have him here. He's entertaining and fun without being handled. But I don't think he's happy and that makes me sad, as I've been working my tail off to turn that around. There's no telling what this guy has been through. I feel sorry for him. But I can't have a bird actively flying off his playstand attacking me (or anyone) for absolutely no reason. I have to figure out a way to redirect that behavior so the bite can't take place. I did state that I'm not ready to give up on him yet, and I'm not going to.

I built the playgym above his cage so he could get high enough to feel safe, not be bothered if he didn't want to be, yet still be out and have freedom. He doesn't stay there though. Instead he either climbs down or flies down. Most of the time he flies. If he weren't actively seeking out trouble, I wouldn't have too much of a problem with that. I'm racking my brain trying to find solutions. Most days, my house is quiet, as I'm the only one home. This weekend was a holiday weekend, so there was a bit more activity than usual.

I haven't clipped him yet. I REALLY don't want to do that to him. In my experience, birds are MUCH more confident when they have their flight. It's instinctual for them to fly away from danger. He's a little warped in the respect that he flies INTO danger though. My biggest concern in clipping him is the possibility of making him more aggressive, though I don't know how that could be possible.
 
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It will take more than a week for a bird to accept you. I know you went into this situation to help the bird and if he doesn't change in a few months, then find him another home as long as the new owners are aware of his background. It would be terrible if he is returned.

I wouldn't let the bird out until he had an attitude adjustment and realizes no harm will come to him. I disagree with Pajarita about wing clipping. This is not punishment, this is a safety issue. Think logically. You cannot allow a bird who attacks freedom. Who knows what he will do out of anger or fright and there are many hazards in a house if he is not accustomed to being out of his cage.

I think GinaF is doing an excellent job considering what she has to deal with. This bird will need time, kindness and patience to change. Opening the cage door and allowing it to do whatever it pleases at this point is not going to change his attitude. Knowing he can do whatever he wants, might make the situation worse. GinaF didn't have to take in this bird. Pajarita, your negative comment regarding her abilities was not nice. That is a low blow to a fellow member who is doing the best she can with what she has. I would not have done anything different.
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Merlee,

He's not going anywhere. I certainly won't send him back to the place I retrieved him from. He was mistreated and I believe that's half his issue. He's terrified, scared and confused. I can't say I blame him. When he bit me, I felt sorry for him more than I did myself. I wish I knew why he felt he needed to do that. It can't be a good feeling for him.

Instead, I'll continue to try to break through to him. He needs his nails trimmed. I'll probably do that this week while he's still pissed off so the trauma is over at once. I'm going to give him another week of just kicking back and observing and then maybe try target training him, although, he's not motivated by treats and tries to bite your hand if you offer him some.

He doesn't react negatively for men. He becomes more interested and vocal, instead. If it comes down to it, I'll look for a predominately male home for him and require the potential family to come to my house to spend time with him prior to taking him anywhere. I want what's best for him. He's such a cute little guy trapped in a frightened body. He deserves to be happy, whatever that may be.
 
Have you showered him yet? Working with aggressive birds , more then once I have put them in a shower and stood by to watch to make sure they where ok. After a good long drenching shower they always seem to come out with a better attitude. Where its because they are clean and feel better or because I rescued them from the monsoon I have never been sure of...
 
Sounds like we need to find you a "man" too.LOL
 
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Have you showered him yet? Working with aggressive birds , more then once I have put them in a shower and stood by to watch to make sure they where ok. After a good long drenching shower they always seem to come out with a better attitude. Where its because they are clean and feel better or because I rescued them from the monsoon I have never been sure of...
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I agree, however, good luck getting him in the shower! LOL.....
 
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Sounds like we need to find you a "man" too.LOL
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Make sure he's dressed like Tarzan so he fits in with the jungle here, will ya?
Remember, Tarzan only wore a loin cloth! :D
 
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Please don't clip him! He is such a magnificent animal and he doesn't deserve the punishment. I know that you took him in to do him a favor and that was very kind of you but maybe you were not as prepared as you thought you were to handle an aggressive zon...
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And he will be JUST as magnificent with a trim. :) The bird is NOT being punished in any way, shape, or form.

As a matter of fact, he is in the most caring, knowledgeable and loving hands for the first time in God-knows-how-long, and Gina will undoubtedly do what's best for this guy. :)
 
Get the shower going. Towel the vary angry bird. Put towel in shower where the bird can get out on own. If there is a door great! If not have some king of shield you can push against the curtain to keep them in there. (Before doing this make a step up stick with a butter tub poked through the middle as a hand guard! Put tub on so it goes over the hand so they cant just reach around) After shower have them step up. (small area they cant run from it vary well) Then return to cage. Good Luck!
 
Or drag whole cage outside remove food and water cups and give a nice garden hose shower. It's Bosleys favorite way of getting one.
 
Oh I do that all the time with my guys, but you don't seem to get the same reaction form a aggressive bird doing it that way. For this guy as untrusting as he is that may be the safer way for her though without help.
 
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We'll do that Shelly.
Thanks for the advice! It shouldn't be hard to towel him. The little bugger can run fast though. He's got a foot fetish for sure! Must be a guy thing. I'm sitting here watching him and every few minutes I have to tell him to get back on his cage and praise him when he does. He's got the chanting going on again.

He's REALLY trying to get to Blue. I might move him to a different room so she's out of view completely.
 
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