Mental Health Vent/Discussion

[Scott]

I do that too, I always want others to be happy. But being an empath is more like being a mind reader in a way and I can't be in large groups of people anymore because EVERY. SINGLE. EMOTION is flooding into my brain and I can't shut them out, no matter how hard I try.
And being on my own is much much better.

I am so "outer directed" it wounds me grievously at times. Learned over the years to interact with groups and finely channel my anxieties in methods that bring more joy than angst. I have a harder time interacting with friends via text, without visual and vibe cues to moderate my worst anxieties. Not suggesting this will work for you but our ages and life experiences literally separated by decades!

 

[foxgloveparrot]

I am so "outer directed" it wounds me grievously at times. Learned over the years to interact with groups and finely channel my anxieties in methods that bring more joy than angst. I have a harder time interacting with friends via text, without visual and vibe cues to moderate my worst anxieties. Not suggesting this will work for you but our ages and life experiences literally separated by decades!

Thank you for that. I'm so glad you've found ways to make things better, even if it's only a little better.
For me, talking with others is easier over text. In person the amount of emotions I get from them can be extremely overwhelming. Unlike you, I don't suffer from any type of anxiety. I mean, I could, but I have not been diagnosed by a professional, so I won't act as though I have.

 

[foxgloveparrot]

I'm not a fan of "labels," but let's face it, protocols vary globally and are crucial within the professional mental health community for purposes of diagnosis and hopefully assigning cogent treatment. And in the U.S, for insurance billing purposes.

Roz, sorry to hear you did not exceed personal expectations with English exam. Truly a difficult language to manage even for native speakers! I've learned to compartmentalize disappointing results and working ever harder to improve for the future. Every confidence you will do better next exam for I am the "forever optimist!"

My opinion on "labels":
If you want to label yourself that's ok in most cases, maybe not with mental disorders, because it's not good to self-diagnose...but nobody is stopping you from putting a label on yourself.

 

[BirdyBee]

My opinion on "labels":
If you want to label yourself that's ok in most cases, maybe not with mental disorders, because it's not good to self-diagnose...but nobody is stopping you from putting a label on yourself.

My opinion? I think it's fine if you really prefer to label yourself but don't label other people if they don't like it. I Just don't really like labeling myself so I just say I'm Autistic or I have ASD, I just prefer it.

 

[StormyPica]

My opinion? I think it's fine if you really prefer to label yourself but don't label other people if they don't like it. I Just don't really like labeling myself so I just say I'm Autistic or I have ASD, I just prefer it.

Yeah, and labels can be important. If I didn't say 'I have a tic disorder', people would think I'm crazy and attention-seeking.

 

[BirdyBee]

Yeah, and labels can be important. If I didn't say 'I have a tic disorder', people would think I'm crazy and attention-seeking.

yeah. One autism label I HATE is "a little bit autistic/more autistic" like, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?? It's either you're autistic or not, and it has a worse effect on you or not, you can't have more or less autism than another person.

 

[foxgloveparrot]

Yeah, and labels can be important. If I didn't say 'I have a tic disorder', people would think I'm crazy and attention-seeking.

Yup, labels can be and often are important. But not labeling yourself with disorders, that aren't diagnosed by a professional - that can be harmful.

 

[BirdyBee]

Yup, labels can be and often are important. But not labeling yourself with disorders, that aren't diagnosed by a professional - that can be harmful.

yeah I agree.

Sometimes "high-functioning" labels need to be used, example: when you're looking for a job and they ask about what conditions you have, if you just say you're autistic or you have autism they might end up not giving you the job because it might look like you're uncapable of having the job unless you say you're "High-functioning" which seems more acceptable

 

[SailBoat]

This thread has been a frustration for me as autism exists within my extended family and has been generational within our family following a trackable lineage . To have individuals want to classify /label themselves for reasons I do not understand cuts deep as I see first hand family members struggle with near all levels of their life. None of them have ever been one bit interested in finding a label to wrap themselves. All have worked hard to obtain and maintain jobs and homes. What they have been busy with from early on is learning life skills and working though the daily issues that they are faced with. The offensiveness of the twisting /toying shall I say bemoaning direction of this thread is an affront to the day-to-day struggles that others are faced.

It is long over due for this Vent to find itself a resting place.

 

[StormyPica]

This thread has been a frustration for me as autism exists within my extended family and has been generational within our family following a trackable lineage . To have individuals want to classify /label themselves for reasons I do not understand cuts deep as I see first hand family members struggle with near all levels of their life. None of them have ever been one bit interested in finding a label to wrap themselves. All have worked hard to obtain and maintain jobs and homes. What they have been busy with from early on is learning life skills and working though the daily issues that they are faced with. The offensiveness of the twisting /toying shall I say bemoaning direction of this thread is an affront to the day-to-day struggles that others are faced.

It is long over due for this Vent to find itself a resting place.

If you mean getting a diagnosis, people want to do that so they can get help. I don't think any of us are labeling ourselves without reason. 'Autistic' is just a label that autistic people use to describe themselves, it's not 'twisting' or 'toying'. How people choose to deal with their struggles is a personal decision.

 

[SailBoat]

Our family have nine individuals from elderly to young and none of them had any difficulty in determining that they have autism. Zero question.

Let this Thread pass!!

 

[StormyPica]

Our family have nine individuals from elderly to young and none of them had any difficulty in determining that they have autism. Zero question.

Let this Thread pass!!

Ok....
Doesn't mean all autistic people find it easy to figure out that they're autistic

 

[SailBoat]

I choose to fully disagree... And, with that solid Closure! I Hope this Thread find its rightful place. If you are looking for a Classification, you are looking in all the wrong places as this is not a Therapy Forum..

 

[StormyPica]

I choose to fully disagree... And, with that solid Closure! I Hope this Thread find its rightful place. If you are looking for a Classification, you are looking in all the wrong places as this is not a Therapy Forum..

Welp, you can choose to disagree, but many people have milder autism (or mask it)...
And you're right, this is not a therapy forum.

 

[BirdyBee]

I can see that this might turn into a heated debate, especially with the functioning labels. Functioning labels are VERY controversial. I really regret starting this thread again! I shouldn't have written another reply..

 

[StormyPica]

Welp. Yay.

 

[Terry57]

I do think this thread has run it's course, and that everything has been said that needs to be said.
This thread is now closed.