Male or female

[Vik]

Hello cockatiel lovers I'm new here. Can someone can tell me it's a male or a female? Note that the two chick are from different parents. And picture are coming from the breeder. He place them on top of seeds for pic.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

How old are they? The utino is more likely female than male. The pearl on the left is a female if it stays pearl as an adult but can't tell at before that.

If you know what color variety mutations the parents are I might be able to sex them. What was dad? What was mom?

Such sweet cockatiels! Makes me want one (or two)!

 

[Vik]

Hello thank you for your advice. What about this one male or female. Father he's white face pied and mother all white.

 

[Vik]

Hello thank you for your advice. What about this one male or female. Father he's white face pied and mother all white.

 

[Vampiric_Conure]

What an absolute cutie! I love baby cockatiels. As for what sex your chick is, I'm not sure. I usually wait until they're older, usually 9 months old. Lutino Males will have a solid colored tail and females will have stripes.

 

[Vik]

Father he's white face pied and mother all white.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

This is tough. Both parents are whitefaced, so both have two whiteface genes. Female is "ino", which is lutino + whilteface = albino. The male is whiteface but could also be carrying the "innmo gene. However, his whiteface genes and her whiteface genes make it "impossible" for them to have yellow babies. If "the father" of these babies isn't carrying the ino gene the lutino baby is a female.

Are you sure the female didn't cheat on him? Or that eggs from another pair didn't get mixed up? Marriages have been broken up when two blue-eyed people have a dark brown eyed baby (even though it can happen)!

So, I'm stumped. All I can say is those babies are so freakin' cute!

I really hope these birds are being fed something other than sunflower seed! It's really bad for both the parents and their babies and that cage appears to be full of it.

One other idea is that the female isn't albino but dark eyed clear dominant pied. Are her eyes red? Or black? Assuming they are black, and she's not albino but dark eyed clear, I still can't explain how she and the whiteface male could have a yellow baby because dark eyed clear is a heavy dominant pied mutation combined with a recessive whiteface mutation and yellow can't be expressed.

 

[Vik]

This is tough. Both parents are whitefaced, so both have two whiteface genes. Female is "ino", which is lutino + whilteface = albino. The male is whiteface but could also be carrying the "innmo gene. However, his whiteface genes and her whiteface genes make it "impossible" for them to have yellow babies. If "the father" of these babies isn't carrying the ino gene the lutino baby is a female.

Are you sure the female didn't cheat on him? Or that eggs from another pair didn't get mixed up? Marriages have been broken up when two blue-eyed people have a dark brown eyed baby (even though it can happen)!

So, I'm stumped. All I can say is those babies are so freakin' cute!

I really hope these birds are being fed something other than sunflower seed! It's really bad for both the parents and their babies and that cage appears to be full of it.

One other idea is that the female isn't albino but dark eyed clear dominant pied. Are her eyes red? Or black? Assuming they are black, and she's not albino but dark eyed clear, I still can't explain how she and the whiteface male could have a yellow baby because dark eyed clear is a heavy dominant pied mutation combined with a recessive whiteface mutation and yellow can't be expressed.

No no the lutino is from an other parent sorry I forgot to say.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

JEEZ! I spent two hours trying to figure this out! Oh well! I just brushed up on my cockatiel genetics.
What are the yellow ones parents?

 

[Vik]

JEEZ! I spent two hours trying to figure this out! Oh well! I just brushed up on my cockatiel genetics.
What are the yellow ones parents?

I'm very sorry. The yellow ones i don't know. Just wanted to know the other one M or F.
Father white face pied and mother all white.

 

[Vik]

JEEZ! I spent two hours trying to figure this out! Oh well! I just brushed up on my cockatiel genetics.
What are the yellow ones parents?

Pictures are coming from breeders.

 

[texsize]

When I had my cockatiel hatchlings I did not try to identify sex so early.
I had a normal grey that was a male.
And a pearl and. Lutino both female.

I would say I determined sex by behavior (when older) but still pre first molt.
First molt nailed down the pearl cuz she retained the pearl markings.
And first molt nailed down the normal gray as well.

The Lutino was 90% behavior 10% (75% chance female and 25% chance male).

Ditto on the sunflower seeds.

Like leaving your toddler in a playpen full of twinkies and candy bars .

 

[DonnaBudgie]

When I had my cockatiel hatchlings I did not try to identify sex so early.
I had a normal grey that was a male.
And a pearl and. Lutino both female.

I would say I determined sex by behavior (when older) but still pre first molt.
First molt nailed down the pearl cuz she retained the pearl markings.
And first molt nailed down the normal gray as well.

The Lutino was 90% behavior 10% (75% chance female and 25% chance male).

Ditto on the sunflower seeds.

Like leaving your toddler in a playpen full of twinkies and candy bars .

Really. They are like babies sitting in a bowl of candy!
Please feed them a healthier diet!

 

[Vik]

Really. They are like babies sitting in a bowl of candy!
Please feed them a healthier diet!

The breeder have other bird that eat the sunflower... He put them chick on the sunflower for pictures.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

So, are you're trying to pick which baby you want? If you want a male don't pick the yellow lutino. Most likely a female.

The whitefaced baby in the picture from the pictured pair could be either male or female, equal chances. If the sex is that important, (sometimes it is) you should have a DNA test done before you decide.

 

[Vik]

So, are you're trying to pick which baby you want? If you want a male don't pick the yellow lutino. Most likely a female.

The whitefaced baby in the picture from the pictured pair could be either male or female, equal chances. If the sex is that important, (sometimes it is) you should have a DNA test done before you decide.

Yes got confus was looking for a male.
What do you think about this one?

 

[Vik]

So, are you're trying to pick which baby you want? If you want a male don't pick the yellow lutino. Most likely a female.

The whitefaced baby in the picture from the pictured pair could be either male or female, equal chances. If the sex is that important, (sometimes it is) you should have a DNA test done before you decide.

It's confusing.

 

[texsize]

Yes got confus was looking for a male.
What do you think about this one?

Like I said earlier.
To the best of my knowledge Lutino’s are 75% female 25% male.
Not your best choice for getting a male.

 

[Vik]

Like I said earlier.
To the best of my knowledge Lutino’s are 75% female 25% male.
Not your best choice for getting a male.

Ok thank you

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Lutino males are pretty unusual. A pied male or a normal male would be good. Any trait that's sex linked recessive is 3x more likely to be female. Lutino, albino, cinnamon (light greyish brown instead of grey) and ,pearl are all sex linked recessive traits).
If you really want a male you need to get a DNA test or wait until the baby is at least six months old to tell by its adult plumage. You can ask the breeder to have the baby you're interested in DNA tested. You'll have to pay for the tests. To save $$ on DNA tests, only test pied or normall color babies because they're much more likely to be male than lutinos, albinos, cinnamon and pearls.