I need an escape proof cage

[goalerjones]

Birdman, you have to admit, the Amazon hormone stories are now the stuff of legend...

 

[Birdman666]

I think I was 13 when I got bit by a nape. To this day I love watching them and hearing them, but not keeping them. I suck at reading them.

My parents had five amazons and two macaws when I was a little kid.

Couldn't get near any of them. They kept me in my place...

Which is why this is all just so odd now...

 

[Birdman666]

Birdman, you have to admit, the Amazon hormone stories are now the stuff of legend...

Yeah, but how much of it is hormones, and how much of it are birds that just aren't getting handled enough?!

And how much of it are people who mistake the line of death dance, for come hither and pick me up?! (Which is probably the number one issue with zons.)

I agree zons take more knowledge than all of them to handle safely. BUT they are also the easiest bird in the world to read, because they tell you what they are likely to do long before they do it.

IF you understand...

Most folks stumble into bites.

And like Sweepea when the playstand collapsed under her feet, and fell on her head, they have the nerve to look surprised!

 

[Christinenc2000]

Yeah but Mark you are a exception . Your Birds think you ARE a bird LOL Just deformed . You lost your feathers.
Mine knows damn well I am a girl that knew crap about a Macaw and he is still having fun teaching me

 

[RavensGryf]

Oh!! Karen OMG that's awful but funny at the same time! Did you have Linnies flying around the house? Lol!

 

[Ann333]

And how much of it are people who mistake the line of death dance, for come hither and pick me up?! (Which is probably the number one issue with zons.)

I agree zons take more knowledge than all of them to handle safely. BUT they are also the easiest bird in the world to read, because they tell you what they are likely to do long before they do it.

They have a DEATH DANCE?!?!
Alright zons are out too....lol

 

[Amanda_Bennett]

And how much of it are people who mistake the line of death dance, for come hither and pick me up?! (Which is probably the number one issue with zons.)

I agree zons take more knowledge than all of them to handle safely. BUT they are also the easiest bird in the world to read, because they tell you what they are likely to do long before they do it.

They have a DEATH DANCE?!?!
Alright zons are out too....lol

Zons do have a very unmistakable dance when they are pissed off or on "overload" leave them be for 10 minutes and you can usually get near them again.

 

[RavensGryf]

Wow!! What species Is Zoe. I'm so glad I have a small (weak) green cheek conure. I'd hate to have this problem! No large birds for me apparently.

Edit: just saw your signature... macaws... nope not for me.

Don't worry Ann as far as your other comment about your above post. It didn't sound rude . Sometimes I fear I say things too that can be taken wrong. After all, it's text!

I admire the macaws and would love one because they're so beautiful, but that's no reason to have one lol! I've had many years of bird experience, and enough to know the small/medium independent types are perfect for me personally.. Nothing wrong with the small guys, they're cute and cuddly .

I had to laugh at your comment that your GCC is weak haha. I know what you mean but it struck me as funny

 

[Birdman666]

They have a LINE OF DEATH DANCE... during breeding season.

It's a territorial intrusion warning. It means you're getting too close to my nest, back off!

People mistake that one for I'm a really friendly bird who wants attention from you... and walk over to pick them up... thereby crossing the invisible "line of death." And after a few steps, the bird launches at their face and tries to rip their lips off... because an amazon will defend his nest!

Somewhere on this site, there's a very fun video of some guy playing a violin thinking the bird is displaying cuz he likes the music...

Ummm... no! That's what the "line of death" dance looks like!

And predictably, the bird launched at his face, and tried to rip his lips off...

And you could see this one coming from a mile away!

 

[Birdman666]

And how much of it are people who mistake the line of death dance, for come hither and pick me up?! (Which is probably the number one issue with zons.)

I agree zons take more knowledge than all of them to handle safely. BUT they are also the easiest bird in the world to read, because they tell you what they are likely to do long before they do it.

They have a DEATH DANCE?!?!
Alright zons are out too....lol

Zons do have a very unmistakable dance when they are pissed off or on "overload" leave them be for 10 minutes and you can usually get near them again.

The overload dance is a different dance...

They've also got a happy to see you dance...

And a get that thing away from me dance...

Oh, and the "I want that!" dance.

They communicate through dancing...

My favorite amazon dance, though, is the goofy, I'm getting really wet now dance...

 

[RavensGryf]

And how much of it are people who mistake the line of death dance, for come hither and pick me up?! (Which is probably the number one issue with zons.)

I agree zons take more knowledge than all of them to handle safely. BUT they are also the easiest bird in the world to read, because they tell you what they are likely to do long before they do it.

They have a DEATH DANCE?!?!
Alright zons are out too....lol

Pionus are recommended as "easy" birds, but the males have the same style DEATH DANCE as zons, though only 200-300 grams, but STILL :52: LOL

 

[Birdman666]

Pionus are recommended as "easy" birds, but the males have the same style DEATH DANCE as zons, though only 200-300 grams, but STILL :52: LOL

They certainly do.

Very closely related to zons. In fact, I tend to think of them as just really small zons.

 

[Ann333]

Lol I'm inexperienced and wouldn't recognize that haha I like my lips right where they are thank you. I have always wanted a cockatoo from childhood. I remember the first time I saw one as a small girl and it was beautiful. I've always wanted one, but did not want one until I got more experience. Now I'm rethinking any bird much bigger than a conure lol they sound terrifying.

 

[Ann333]

Adobe rose is closed today
edit sorry guys. That was supposed to be a text message. I'm on my phone.... lol

 

[Birdman666]

Cockatoos, unlike amazons and macaws, DO NOT generally warn before they bite...

Neither do Sennies... or ringnecks.

Personally, I like to know in advance...

A conure is really just a shrunken macaw, you know. If you can read and handle a conure, you should be able to read and handle a macaw.

(UNLESS YOU SHOW FEAR. Then the macaw's gonna own you!)

 

[RavensGryf]

They certainly do.

Very closely related to zons. In fact, I tend to think of them as just really small zons.

Yep. Raven the Bronze Wing makes that clear to me (his sole owner :20 he displays the death postures to me all the time... He LOVES hubby and won't bite him no matter what. I can't even believe it. My vet says BW males in particular are buttheads. Maybe there like the "hot three" but of the Pionus world? Lol, idk

 

[thekarens]

Toos are another one I wouldn't have except maybe a galah. They are so sweet looking and gorgeous I might overlook the fact that they are a too.

Julie, one of the linnies was flying around the house. His mate was diligently protecting her chick in the nest box. The other linnies thankfully were in the bedroom.

Mark, that's the truth about sennies. As much as I love my sennies I've been chomped a lot by them. Thankfully nothing serious, just painful.

 

[Birdman666]

Yep. Raven the Bronze Wing makes that clear to me (his sole owner :20 he displays the death postures to me all the time... He LOVES hubby and won't bite him no matter what. I can't even believe it. My vet says BW males in particular are buttheads. Maybe there like the "hot three" but of the Pionus world? Lol, idk

The males establish the nests and protect the territory.

These behaviors are all related to territorialism...

 

[Birdman666]

Toos are another one I wouldn't have except maybe a galah. Thet are so sweet looking and gorgeous I might overlook the fact that they are a too.

I'm with you on this one. We had a goffins who was pretty sweet, but neurotic and a plucker. I might consider one of those...

Sarah is a huge too fan... but to me, they are just too needy.

My big macs are needy enough. I couldn't take U2 or M2 level needy...

Or LSC2 level tantrum throwing... I'll pass on that one as well.

I've heard BP2's are nice, but that would require six winning numbers, and a long waiting list...

 

[thekarens]

My in laws had an lsc2 and a g2 when they passed away. We kept them until we could find the right homes for them. The lsc2 went to friends of ours that had just lost their tiel to a hawk and the g2 went to a couple who had lost their goffins to an illness.

One nice thing about the lsc2 is she hated Karen's ex. She'd sell him out and attack. That bird had good sense for a too