Found a parakeet , will she survive?

[Amsterdam]

To make a long story short im currently for my work close to the Syrian border , i found this little girl in a trashcan she was barely moving or breathing. I took her in since my other budgie blue was a rescue bird too. She has scaly legs and face i treated her with vaseline and her legs seems to be cured she eats well and her poop was green but its normal for the past few days. The first pic is 2 days after i took her in she is tame i bought vitamines for her but i cant get the right medicines it will take 2 weeks to arrive i have vitamines anti parasite spray and vaseline the legs seems to be cured as you can see in the last pic but under her beak there is still this mess she is very itchy? What more can i do really dont want to give up on this little angel. I skipped the vaseline for now and switched to the spray showed her a few times too i want her face to cure and get strong what more can i do she is very skinny please help me out

 

[T00tsyd]

First off I would not let them both mix. If the new one which could well be really sick mixes with your fit bird it could pass something on. Please quarantine your find immediately.

I am sure there will be others with more experience than me along soon. Good luck!

 

[SailBoat]

Excellent advice you have received above to quarantine the new Parrot.

Vaseline likely helped on the lower legs and craws, but is not a good choice as it is a petro (oil) base product that can cause your new Parrot to become even more ill. You will need to use a very mild soap like 'Dawn' with no additives just Dawn Original. Just a very basic mild product. Quickly rise several times to assure that you have gotten all the Vaseline and mild soap off you birds feathers and skin. Use a rise water that is warm, but not hot. Let your Parrot full dry to determine if you have been able to remove the Vaseline. It may require a bath one a day for several days to remove all the Vaseline.

The Parasite spray may work better if you wet you finger with it and place directly on the effected area around the Beak and neck. Do not use on other parts of the body, just the effected areas.

At this point: warmth, water and food will be very helpful. Assure your new Parrot has a warm place at night, possible just covering the cage will help depending on night time temperatures.

You need to determine what is infecting your new Parrot. Are you near a Vet. An Avian (bird) Vet would be your first choice, your second choice would be a Vet that works with Farm Birds.

More members will be on and provide more information, but please begin looking for medical help.

 

[Amsterdam]

Excellent advice you have received above to quarantine the new Parrot.

Vaseline likely helped on the lower legs and craws, but is not a good choice as it is a petro (oil) base product that can cause your new Parrot to become even more ill. You will need to use a very mild soap like 'Dawn' with no additives just Dawn Original. Just a very basic mild product. Quickly rise several times to assure that you have gotten all the Vaseline and mild soap off you birds feathers and skin. Use a rise water that is warm, but not hot. Let your Parrot full dry to determine if you have been able to remove the Vaseline. It may require a bath one a day for several days to remove all the Vaseline.

The Parasite spray may work better if you wet you finger with it and place directly on the effected area around the Beak and neck. Do not use on other parts of the body, just the effected areas.

At this point: warmth, water and food will be very helpful. Assure your new Parrot has a warm place at night, possible just covering the cage will help depending of night time temperatures.

You need to determine what is infecting your new Parrot. Are you near a Vet. An Avian (bird) Vet would be your first choice, your second choice would be a Vet that works with Farm Birds.

More members will be on and provide more information, but please begin looking for medical help.

Thanks for the quick reply she has her own cage where i keep her in , a vet is no option since the nearest one is 4/5 hour driving for me.i did wash her a few times with just warm water and dried her off. Should i just keep the spray? I tried to feed her a hard boiled egg to give her some extra but she woudnt eat it she is very skinny. Like i said i currently stay in turkey where its very warm i put a old tshirt on her cage when we sleep is that enough?

 

[Laurasea]

Let me say a big thank you to you! How wonderful that you are giving her a fighting chance!!!! It made me cry to read someone had thrown her away. I hope you can save her! Offer some veggies. The dawn soap is to help remove the Vaseline, the Vaseline on her feathers prevents them from working to keep her warm. I don't know what the temp there is but if you can keep her at least in the 80's F it will help her burn less energy, warmth helps sick birds. She sounds like a fighter!

 

[LaManuka]

How wonderful you are for rescuing this tiny creature that someone has obviously found so insignificant that she was thrown in the trash! Thank you for caring and loving her so much!

 

[EllenD]

She looks to have Scaly Face Mites, which are a parasite that will not be cured by anything but the correct anti-parasitic medication, which is usually given by injection by a vet. Vasoline will not cure them, and as already mentioned, you need to get all of the Vasoline off of her, as not only will it keep her feathers from keeping her warm, but it can be very toxic to birds. Dawn is a type of blue dishwashing detergent here in the US, it is a very mild soap that will remove oils, so you need to find something similar and get all of the Vasoline off of her first.

As far as the Scaly-Face goes, I'm not sure what to tell you to do if you cannot get her to an Avian Vet, as I highly doubt that any available anti-parasitic spray will help them. Is the spray you have made for birds? If not, then you cannot use it on her, as it will most-likely kill her itself. This is a tough one, as Scaly-Face Mites will just keep infesting/multiplying and disfiguring her face and beak, until basically there is nothing left. It's a very common mite in Budgies, and it's very destructive and fatal if not treated with the appropriate medication. And like I said, I've never seen it treated with anything besides an injection of the correct antiparasitic medication.

Try to look for something used to treat Scaly-Face Mites, that's all I can suggest that you do, unless you can contact your nearest Avian Vet and ask them to send you the correct medication to treat Scaly-Face Mites, in an already measured-out dose.

 

[Amsterdam]

Took a few pics today is she looking better or is it my imagination? Legs look healthy pink she wont eat any veggies she is still shaky and sleeping alot

 

[Amsterdam]

She looks to have Scaly Face Mites, which are a parasite that will not be cured by anything but the correct anti-parasitic medication, which is usually given by injection by a vet. Vasoline will not cure them, and as already mentioned, you need to get all of the Vasoline off of her, as not only will it keep her feathers from keeping her warm, but it can be very toxic to birds. Dawn is a type of blue dishwashing detergent here in the US, it is a very mild soap that will remove oils, so you need to find something similar and get all of the Vasoline off of her first.

As far as the Scaly-Face goes, I'm not sure what to tell you to do if you cannot get her to an Avian Vet, as I highly doubt that any available anti-parasitic spray will help them. Is the spray you have made for birds? If not, then you cannot use it on her, as it will most-likely kill her itself. This is a tough one, as Scaly-Face Mites will just keep infesting/multiplying and disfiguring her face and beak, until basically there is nothing left. It's a very common mite in Budgies, and it's very destructive and fatal if not treated with the appropriate medication. And like I said, I've never seen it treated with anything besides an injection of the correct antiparasitic medication.

Try to look for something used to treat Scaly-Face Mites, that's all I can suggest that you do, unless you can contact your nearest Avian Vet and ask them to send you the correct medication to treat Scaly-Face Mites, in an already measured-out dose.

The spray i have is for parakeets my mum send it to me from the netherlands when i got my first rescue budgie i hope it will work on her too

 

[Laurasea]

Can she send you the vitamin drops to add to the water? Don't over do it because to much vitamins are toxic. I can't believe you found him in the trash!! Keep us posted!! So very glad you have him.

 

[noodles123]

Your rescue attempt is very cool-- It makes me nervous (disease-wise) but you have a good heart. I would make sure that you are washing up VERY well in-between handling birds (any point of contact). If he/she makes it, I would still (eventually) make the trip to the vet (mostly for testing and the safety of your other bird)......


Is it possible that this bird was lost and flew into the trash while looking for food and then got stuck or over-heated etc, OR was he actually in a bag with someone's junk etc?

 

[Amsterdam]

Can she send you the vitamin drops to add to the water? Don't over do it because to much vitamins are toxic. I can't believe you found him in the trash!! Keep us posted!! So very glad you have him.

I have the vitamine drops already but i cant get my hands on the real meds yet il have to wait 2 weeks

 

[Amsterdam]

Your rescue attempt is very cool-- It makes me nervous (disease-wise) but you have a good heart. I would make sure that you are washing up VERY well in-between handling birds (any point of contact). If he/she makes it, I would still (eventually) make the trip to the vet (mostly for testing and the safety of your other bird)......


Is it possible that this bird was lost and flew into the trash while looking for food and then got stuck or over-heated etc, OR was he actually in a bag with someone's junk etc?

Saw her moving in a bag people here cant afford to treat sick birds i geuss

 

[Scott]

Welcome to you and your birds, thanks for rescuing from a trash can!

I hope you are able to get proper medicine to cure the mite issue.

 

[noodles123]

Good God....Why wouldn't they just kill her or set her free (Both "options" are STILL TERRIBLE AND CRUEL/unforgivable, BUT putting her in a bag is just insane....even for a crazy person)...I feel like putting her in the trash took more effort than it would have to just release her to die elsewhere (again, still TERRIBLE, lazy and unjustifiable, but THEY PHYSICALLY HAD TO PUT HER IN A BAG ALIVE?!?!)....I don't know what this world is coming to... Did they hate her for some (insane) reason?

If I try to smash a poisonous spider and it is still moving afterwards, I feel GUILT (I imagine what it would be like to be smashed just for living in the wrong place)! I hate the thought of anything (even a "Dangerous" creature) having to suffer. Heck, when I can, I have even been know to catch and release poisonous spiders lol. I would love to know what happened to the owner to make them feel like life was disposable. It would really anger me if it turned out that their life had been completely "functional" because unless you are traumatized by years of miserable treatment yourself, I can't imagine how you would end up thinking this was okay...Unless you were a sociopath (and I want so badly to believe that these are made, not born...then again, psychology seems to indicate otherwise.....YUCK.
Thank God you found her! I really hope she pulls through!

 

[ChristaNL]

The way I read it here (quick check on the dutch side):

afaik is vaseline used a lot when you have few other options - it chokes the mites rather efficiently.
Ingesting it is not a good idea of course, though it will not really get digested or block anything its not something that belongs in a body.
(I could not find anything as esp. harmfull)

The usual anti-parisite-mix (the one with the pipet, Ivermectine etc.) usually takes care of it too.
(Yes of course it is toxic, that is why it is important to use the correct dosis: you want to kill the small-small critters not the larger bird.).

The spray is a possibility (but not the best -> dosage is the problem)- but the same advice: spread the liquid with your hands (drops rather than spray) rather than just randomly spray feathers.

and als always: HYGIENE!!!!
mites are on the bird and everwhere around it... so cage-cleaning like it is your new religion!

You might want to treat your other bird as well, not all birds are as 'sensitive' to them, but the mites will get around...

 

[LeslieA]

Do NOT let them together but it seems they've already had access to one another.

If you do not have an AV there, you can google ONLINE AVIAN VET. I've never used one to recommend a site. I think it costs US$30-40. Please know that's a guess! Google FACIAL TUMORS BUDGIES SCALY FACE MITES. Petcha.com should cover it well.

Pharmaceuticals and supplements can be ordered online but may need a vet's order.

EACH will probably need an injection of Ivomec since they've associated. There are alternatives but the instructions must be followed explicitly! This will probably, with vacuuming, sweeping and sanitation, take care of it in a couple of weeks.

After, a commercial mite spray should regularly be applied to any cages and toys.

 

[Amsterdam]

Thank you all for the advice and tips gonna try feed her veggies again tommorow

 

[Laurasea]

Leafy like romaine lettuce, bok choy, spinach, working well for mine, plus a yellow or red bell pepper, just a tiny slice it else it's wasted. Fresh corn will help out weight on but not recommend long term, just a little for now for extra energy

 

[LeslieA]

Mine won't touch bell pepper. They hate the high fructose. Again, this proves that birds are so very different. HAHA My conures are on a no-carrots frenzy. HAHA