At a loss to find a good corn/soy free pellet that works! :(

[Crazygreymom]

They put crap like this in rabbit pellets too. Stuff they would never eat in the wild.

I actually found a rabbit pellets that are 100% Timothy. I order them through Amazon

 

[Crazygreymom]

Soy is in everything because it's a cheap protein. I think the corn is probably added as a binder. I wonder if enough people contact the company maybe they would consider a soy/corn free option.

I would imagine that as long as you get a breakdown of required nutrients you could make a chop. Keeping in mind that you source things like calcium from a bird friendly source.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

I read somewhere that BT pellets are just rebranded Tops i believe it was,

I just looked up Tops pellet ingredients and they're identical. I don't know about those bird tricks people. Rebranding and making it sound like it's THEIRS? Tops must let them, which makes me wonder about them, too. Well. We're too smart to fall for Bird Tricks like THAT!

 

[Crazygreymom]

I found this website that's very helpful. Also I forgot to mention that I add nutritional yeast and spirulina to my chop. My bird loves nutritional yeast and it adds a lovely nutty buttery taste to make her greens more palatable.

My Chop "Recipe"

I see a lot of requests in bird groups and forums all over the web asking for a good recipe for chop. It's hard to give a definite or correct answer to that question because there simply isn't any right way to do it. (Chop, for those who don't know, is simply a name for "salad" or "mash" as some...

lilmonstersbirdtoys.com

 

[GivemeSeedsorgivemeFlesh]

This is a great resource page! I have been trying to convert a budgie from an all seed diet to a complete diet for nearly two months and I'm happy to have a written list. The advantage of this method is that it's all good human food so no need to buy too much extra that isn't already in the house. I've also noticed eating with him makes a big difference.

 

[chris-md]

I just looked up Tops pellet ingredients and they're identical. I don't know about those bird tricks people. Rebranding and making it sound like it's THEIRS? Tops must let them, which makes me wonder about them, too. Well. We're too smart to fall for Bird Tricks like THAT!

Tops is behind it, allowing rebranding. It’s a partnership thing and not at all unusual across every industry in the economy. This isn’t bird tricks trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Bird tricks isn’t the only ones to do this with them, Marlene mccohen off the top of my head created her own line with tops as well. I know I’ve seen more but can’t name them off the top of my head. Possibly that creepy (my assessment) C4AW cooperative, but I could be wrong there.

so BT isn’t a boogeyman for it. Consumer just needs to be aware there’s going to be a significant mark up when purchasing through such a partnership, and it’s cheaper to just go straight to TOPS.

 

[JjEjFjF]

This isn’t bird tricks trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Bird tricks isn’t the only ones to do this with them,

Just because everyone does it doesnt mean theres no wool pulling. Its crooked and deceitful done purposely to fool the consumer.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Tops is behind it, allowing rebranding. It’s a partnership thing and not at all unusual across every industry in the economy. This isn’t bird tricks trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Bird tricks isn’t the only ones to do this with them, Marlene mccohen off the top of my head created her own line with tops as well. I know I’ve seen more but can’t name them off the top of my head. Possibly that creepy (my assessment) C4AW cooperative, but I could be wrong there.

so BT isn’t a boogeyman for it. Consumer just needs to be aware there’s going to be a significant mark up when purchasing through such a partnership, and it’s cheaper to just go straight to TOPS.

I'm sure all you say is true. I do think Bird Tricks is very overpriced for some things. I watched a YouTube video by bird tricks showing them making a batch of gourmet seed mix for Budgies called Blueberrys seed mix or something like that named after one of their budgies. I took note of all the ingredients they used including the brands and bought all 4 or 5 or so ingredients on Amazon for about $15 each for 16 oz bags. They charge $20 for one 20 oz bag of Blueberrys mix. I was really surprised they posted that video when all it did was lose sales for them.

 

[chris-md]

Just because everyone does it doesnt mean theres no wool pulling. Its crooked and deceitful done purposely to fool the consumer.

We’ll agree to disagree on the morality of this practice, which is called white labelling. It’s how supermarkets can sell their own named products (Kirkland signature at Costco, or 365 by Whole Foods or Hill country Fare at HEB). PayPal does it with companies: lets companies use the payment gateway, but rebrand it to make it look like their own internal system.

 

[chris-md]

I'm sure all you say is true. I do think Bird Tricks is very overpriced for some things. I watched a YouTube video by bird tricks showing them making a batch of gourmet seed mix for Budgies called Blueberrys seed mix or something like that named after one of their budgies. I took note of all the ingredients they used including the brands and bought all 4 or 5 or so ingredients on Amazon for about $15 each for 16 oz bags. They charge $20 for one 20 oz bag of Blueberrys mix. I was really surprised they posted that video when all it did was lose sales for them.

I don’t disagree. Theyre asking something like $400 for a metal t stand, if I recall correctly.

I think the parrot wizard was asking $300 for a set of training stands on Amazon also.

So these influencer pricings are utterly ridiculous. But they get away with it people there are people who actually pay those prices to be associated with such influencers.