Very worried about Fang

This is great! And I hope tomorrow’s results confirm that Fang just wanted some extra attention.


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I'm so sorry this is happening to you again, but it sounds like it's not the same thing as last time, thankfully...I seem to remember looking up what a bowl that came with a big floor-perch came with, if that was you I looked it up for, I think it was...I think the bowl was listed as being made from "sandstone" on the manufacturer's website/catalog when I looked it up (and if I recall they didn't make it easy to find the answer to that question either, like it was a secret what that bowl was made of)...

Usually when it's heavy-metal toxicity they get it from chewing on cage bars or a commercially-sold toy with metal parts....That's probably 75% of the cases, the rest are due to the little jerks finding something in the house to chew on that contains metal...And a lot of the time we wouldn't even know that certain items in our homes actually contain any metal at all...

I watched an episode of "Dr. K's Exotic Animal ER" once where a poor man had lost his dog a month prior due to old age, then he had lost his female Cockatiel who was only 7 or 8 years old suddenly 2 weeks prior after trying to save her at their hospital, and during this episode his only remaining pet, his male Cockatiel who was the mate to the female he had just lost to a mystery out of nowhere suddenly became obviously very, very sick...He rushed him in to Dr. T, the other Vet there, and they did an x-ray and found obvious metal flakes all throughout his GI Tract...So they started Chelation-Therapy while he tried to figure out what in his house they had been chewing on and that had most-likely also killed his female Cockatiel 2 weeks prior...He came back to the hospital with this antique statue of a goat that was outwardly made out of wood, but it was obvious that the birds often chewed on it because it had beak marks all over it and he knew they both had chewed on it all the time, but didn't think it was a problem because it was a wooden statue...So they didn't think the statue was the culprit, but just because both birds had been chewing on it for years, they decided to actually x-ray the wooded goat statue...And low and behold this wooden goat statue was full of material that glowed brightly on the x-ray...So the wooden statue actually wasn't ALL wood, it was made of some type of composite-wood that contained heavy metals...And the male Cockatiel died of the metal poisoning too...I remember feeling so sorry for this poor man who had lost his entire family in a month, he kept saying how quiet his house was...

Soooo, the point to my rambling story is that anything and everything can contain different metals, even if they are made of wood, plastic, ceramics (especially, as many types of processed clays contain metals, as well as alot of glazes), and also anything painted can contain heavy metal, as they add all kinds of stuff to paints, stains, glazes, etc. So basically what I learned from that episode of "Dr. K's" was that if you think your bird might be suffering from metal toxicity/poisoning, instead of looking for things that are metal around the house or in their cage that could be the cause, you need to look for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that your bird may have or obviously does chew on and have it checked-out...If it glows on an x-ray, it contains metal...

I hope that isn't your issue here with Fang, it doesn't sound like it honestly, usually when they are suffering from heavy-metal poisoning they don't get at all better over time without treatment, they just continue to get gradually more and more sick...So positive-energy your way and to Fang...And keep us posted!
 
I'm so glad Fang had a good visit, hoping for wonderful results from the test today!
I bet Fang was glad to see you when you got home:)
 
Fang, get better so that we can choke you!

LaM... my heart stumbled when I ran across this. I know how you love that little tooth. I am so glad that your roosters seem to be settling.

Patagonian hugzszsz to you.
 
When loss for the source of Zinc plated products, use a magnet. The magnet will react to steel /iron, not the Zinc.
Zinc is a non ferrous metal and by itself will not react to a magnet.
When one gets to a point that you just cannot find the source of heavy metals, buy or rent a good metal detector that has both Ferrous and Non Ferrous metals capabilities.

The reason for mixing ground chip wood and heavy metals is to fool the buyer by adding weight to an otherwise basic wood craving.
 
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Thanks everyone, Fang and I certainly appreciate all your input and support!

Unlike Baci the GCC, Fang really isn’t a chewer. Occasionally he chews on those wicker/vine toys I get from his vet but that’s about it. Unfortunately I can’t shed any more light on what’s going on with him as I’m still awaiting the blood test results (I really hate waiting for blood test results!!) I’m kinda leaning more towards his possible heart issues and all the changes to his environment at this point but I will let you all know the moment I have more news.

Thanks again for all of your well wishes and positive vibes, it means a lot to us!
 
Ok the verdict is finally in, good news and bad news. Good news is it’s not metal toxicity. Bad news is it’s related to his heart issues.

Fang has an inefficient heart which is causing liver degradation and he also apparently has an elevated white blood cell count. His vet says the heart problem should respond to medication and once is heart starts pumping more efficiently his liver should also benefit, the liver being an organ capable of regeneration after all. So he will need to be medicated twice daily and I expect Fang will get fed up with that after ... ooh ... day one!

So we begin our new journey with Fang. He’s just had his first dose of meds (hates me already!) and a bite to eat as well. I was starting to wonder if I’d overreacted to the symptoms he was showing on the weekend so at least now I know I wasn’t just jumping at shadows!

I will keep you all updated regularly as to his progress, he will probably need to be reassessed in the next month or so as to the effectiveness of his meds. For the moment he seems much more like his old self, he is even standing his ground against crazy Lilly, up to a point that is. Thank you all so much for your wonderful wishes and help over the last few days while I’ve been so worried about him but now that we at least have a diagnosis we can tackle this thing and hopefully have Fang with us for a long time to come.
 
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so glad to see Fang is doing good, hope the meds help :D

isn't it so bad, when you don't know if you're ovewereacting and panicking for a reason or just seeing ghosts... lucky you did panic and get him neded help :)
without the panic mine would have died and my family thought I was just being paranoid for nothing, yay for us panickers :p
 
Like SunnyGirl already said: you are once again a shinihg example in "reading your bird".

Be paranoid (parrotnoid? parrontnoid?) as much as you like, because you've been right every single time!


Come on Fang- take your meds, be a good boy to those human-nut(providing)cases that love you to bits! ( I know you love them too!)
Feel (much) better soon!
 
Sorry to know Fang has a chronic condition, but one that responds well to meds. Oh, you were not overreacting, what a great parront!

Everybody has a different experience, but I've found mixing meds (if permitted) in warm oatmeal or other similar cereal works wonders. Also applesauce or a bit of peanut butter, though the latter may not be acceptable long term.
 
Thanx everyone for your kind words. It stinks that Fang has a chronic condition that who the hell knows if it will improve or deteriorate over time but at the very least it’s not contagious and it’s not heavy metals lurking in our tap water!

He’s had his morning meds and his breakfast and has flown a few laps in the house. He is looking reasonably ok so far today but I am watching him like the proverbial hawk! The medicine he’s on is called Pimobendan which of course I’ve looked up on the interwebz (not having been present at the vet appointment) and there’s a lot of literature about it being quite successfully used for dogs but precious little about avian treatment. Still I have every faith in Fang’s doctor so if he says it’ll help that’s good enough for me.

Fang is one of those “part of the furniture” type birds now, he is such a fixture here we cannot imagine being without him. I suppose I’ve just made a few more payments for his vet’s fancy European car and/or holiday home but we love Fang and we want him healthy and happy.
 
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I'm glad you got answers, abd that it's manageable. We all feel ya in giving meds no fun...
 
As you said, LaM...
"Fang is one of those “part of the furniture” type birds now."

Just checking in on the ol' Fangster. I could use an update... he's a part of my furniture, too.
 
I suppose I’ve just made a few more payments for his vet’s fancy European car and/or holiday home but we love Fang and we want him healthy and happy.
LOL I know I made at least a few months worth of payments in the last few months to my vet new BMW.

Hopefully Fang will stay well.
 
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Fang says to say “awww thanx for asking!”

He is really quite bright today, eating fairly well, taking his meds like a champion and seems to have stopped shedding so many feathers too. HRH the Tiny Terrorist keeps trying to push him around so I’m being kept busy distracting her attention away from him.

I’m a wee bit annoyed that his heart condition was picked up at a vet visit back in November but at the time we were told just to keep an eye on him and no blood test or further investigation was recommended. Same vet surgery but that exam was done by the second-in-charge, not the boss man whom I trust implicitly. Maybe I’m just second guessing everything but I just wonder if we’d started medication back then we might have circumvented more damage to his liver etc. Still I’m very happy with the way he’s improved so far. I thought he would hate me by now for dosing him up twice a day but he is very co-operative and if I didn’t know better I’d say he actually seems to like the taste.

Anyways I’ll certainly keep you all updated about how our little Fangstien is progressing, he’s been SUCH a good boy throughout all of this and I’m very proud of him for being so brave:)
 
Glad Fang is a cooperative patient! Makes your job less stressful and lessens the chance of harming the relationship.
 
Here's a quick vid of Fang waving "Hello" to all his supporters, he's sitting on my shoulder preening right now and looking reasonably happy (don't wanna say too much in case I tempt the wrath of the whatever from on top of the thing!)

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Gosh, Fang is adorable! Hope he continues to take his meds and improve.
 
Oh I’m smitten with Fang!!!! Swooooon! Keep feeling better Fang!


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