The price of Hyacinths.....

and scarletts are 'least concern' compared to the greenwing which is endangered, and yet they are the same price! :(
im so confused haha
 
and scarletts are 'least concern' compared to the greenwing which is endangered, and yet they are the same price! :(
im so confused haha
Military Macaws are endangered as well. They don't seem to be priced very high though. Demand has a lot to do with it.
 
and how much are the blue throated macaws?
Blue throats breed really well in captivity, so even though there are only 100-150 in the wild you can buy one in America for 2,000-2,500.

Also you're lucky to have all the wild parrots, we have some naturalized parrots, the only native species is extinct. I saw the cherry headed conures flying around in San Fransisco, it's so cool to see them flocking. I've also seen Amazons in Los Angeles and I think I saw a long tailed parekeet, pretty sure it was a Indian ringneck.
 
I actually bought my blue throat from a pet store in Wisconsin for 1,800.....Other pet stores around here charge around 2,000...and the past 3 years or so they have become readily available in my area...
 
In Canada prices are roughly,

Senegals are $450
Other Pois are $500
Jardines are $900
Amazons are $800-$2000, species depending
Greys are $1200
Eclectus are $1400
Cockatoos are $1000-$4000
Sm. Macaws are $900
lg. Macaws are $1500
Hyacinth's are $20,000
 
Here is another way of thinking about the price of a Macaw of any type.
think about the most expensive thing you ever purchased. I'm sure it was more then 50,000 per in the hundreds of thousands.
Then stop for a moment and think, Will I own this thing for the nest 75 or so years. I bet you might answer, most likely not. I know I buy a new car every 5 years at approx 25,000 to 30,000.

If you think of it under these terms. 50,000 for 75 years is a real bargin. So i would say off to the bank to get that loan. lol

Here in the U S, smaller Macaws through your larger Macaws. You can normally get them for about 2,000 U S dollars. This is the reason most end up in rescues. Your GW, blue Throat, and Hy Macaws tend to be more expensive but not exceeding 10,000 or so.

I personaly would love to see the price of most Pets in general sky rocket here in the U S due to people in the U S tend to buy things that they really don't need and after they purchase it, they have no issue with giving it away.

I love to hear that there are little to none of these wonderful Macaws in rescues in your country so I hope your Gov keeps up the great work. Thanks for posting. Joe
 
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Oh don't get me wrong I would gladly spend money on a Hyacinth over a car haha
 
I think that there is much more that goes into breeding hyacinths than most people understand. We have a limited amount of breeding stock available and they demand much more care than a typical macaw as chicks. They also require an expensive and specific diet as well as even larger enclosures. They rarely hatch more than a chick or two a year, and their survival rates are quite low compared to other birds. I do not breed birds, but I do breed horses and I can tell you it is truly not possible to make a profit on a quality 3yo horse that has been raised and trained correctly for less that 15,000 dollars. The food, care, time, and effort can never be made up in dollars. I am not in a position to afford a hyacinth but do understand the value and cost of such birds.
 
If you think of it under these terms. 50,000 for 75 years is a real bargin. So i would say off to the bank to get that loan. lol
Now that's an excellent point! :)
 
Omg, i never knew that a macaw could be 18000$ if you go to India,Pakistan,Bangladesh you could get these for 50 cents. No matter if it's the worlds rarest macaw or a show worthy ring neck you can get these birds for under 5 bucks. There sold on streets.
 
Omg, i never knew that a macaw could be 18000$ if you go to India,Pakistan,Bangladesh you could get these for 50 cents. No matter if it's the worlds rarest macaw or a show worthy ring neck you can get these birds for under 5 bucks. There sold on streets.
Those poor birds :(
 
Ok I am a breeder and I will gladly show my tax papers from last year to prove I didn't make a profit. After food, cages, toys, DNA, Vet apt. All the cooking I do for the birds it is just not buy a bag of food and feed it. Plus all the time raising babies u really don't make money. I could just buy cheap seeds don't do DNA or vet visits and have no toys in the cages and I might make something. If I had more birds maybe u can make more money but I do not and I think I do right by my birds. Just my 2 cents.
 
amysaviary i agree with all of that :) what birds do you breed?
i think the OP was just saying about hyacinths,,, like in australia i think they would make a profit on macaws as they are so highly priced, but compared to america they wouldnt make much of a profit.. :)
if hyacinths ever came down under $20,000 i would of got one straight away.. but i only want one macaw, and i dont think they will come down that low in my lifetime :p haha
 
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Sorry I should have been more clear that I don't think all breeders lie when they say they don't make money off of their birds, but I don't believe that this particular breeder is telling the truth when they say that they sold 2 female hyacinths for $18,000 each and didn't make any money off of them.

I'm kind of going back on what I my original post stated, I don't so much care that the birds are being sold for this much, but this breeder does it full time and still says he/she doesn't make money off of their birds. Now I'm just saying that for hyacinths in particular(I understand the difficulty in raising them)would not cost $18,000 a year to care for. So if you sold 2 chicks that would be $36,000 so again not ALL of that went back into the original breeding pair's care.

but I do agree that the price is good in terms of insuring them a good home.
 
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and I also agree that because they have such a long life span that they are worth the money.
 
Omg, i never knew that a macaw could be 18000$ if you go to India,Pakistan,Bangladesh you could get these for 50 cents. No matter if it's the worlds rarest macaw or a show worthy ring neck you can get these birds for under 5 bucks. There sold on streets.
Those poor birds :(

Ditto on the poor birds and other creatures that are sold there. :(

The breeder/store where my Niko came from has 3 pairs of Hyacinths, but she has YET to get a clutch from any of them. Her oldest pair is in the mid twenties and have been together for a long time. Still, nada. Now I don't know whether she bought them as a proven pair or not, but I do know that caring for these gorgeous giants properly takes a lot of work AND $$.

I'm not so sure whether I agree with that only "richer" folks should be able to afford them simply because I know some wealthy people who don't hesitate to have a custom fishtank built into their home only to never even check the temperature or feed the fish. Why did they want one to begin with? Looks, and looks alone. Status symbol, too.

Now please don't think I'm bashing folks who are well off - on the contrary.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Supply and demand works. We do not need the government controlling prices to ensure that only rich people can have Hys. That kind of big government thinking is killing this country and our children's future--at least for those of us still having children.
 
Supply and demand works. We do not need the government controlling prices to ensure that only rich people can have Hys. That kind of big government thinking is killing this country and our children's future--at least for those of us still having children.
Supply and demand doesn't work when people can't afford what they would otherwise demand and be able to pay for.

I see The real problem as politicians who manipulate to become government leaders and then give (and sustain) huge tax cuts only to wealthy business owners/CEO's/share holders/corporations. That's essentially a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the super rich class, and IT is what's been killing our country. Those hugely rich business owners hoard the extra money rather than using it to create new domestic jobs (as they and their crony capitalist leaders claim they will do). They then outsource their manufacturing and services to less expensive areas of the world so they can make even more money. I think that's what will end up making it impossible for more middle class folks to acquire birds such as Hyacinth Macaws and Black Palm Cockatoos. And in some cases it may well make it impossible for many of those who already own those magnificent birds to keep them.
 

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