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Birdman666

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Presently have six Greenwing Macaw (17 yo), Red Fronted Macaw (12 yo), Red Lored Amazon (17 y.o.), Lilac Crowned Amazon (about 43 y.o.) and a Congo African Grey (11 y.o.)
Panama Amazon (1 Y.O.)
NO IT'S NOT!

THAT'S MINE!!!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjzX1puYq-4"]Parrot & Dog playing with a stick - YouTube[/ame]
 
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How can you tell if your bird and your dog have been properly socialized?!
 
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That video actually scared me when I first watched it.
We have two dogs and I have no clue how they did that

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT! THAT'S FOR SURE.

They have to be socialized together.

Mine are socialized around dogs.

And my friend's greenwing actually used to get down on the ground and run around and play with the dogs.

I personally think it needs to be really, really closely supervised, but you can tell from the video that these two are best buds...
 
My Corgi would be more than willing. She is a coward at heart. My Jack. No way would I trust him for that. He is a good dog and well trained but , do not think he would ever tolerate that. I might be wrong. Its kinda funny cause the Jack is the one that gets his tail pulled by BB when he gets to close to the cage. And he is the one that is fed more . As I typed he is eating the popcorn that BB is dropping LOL
 
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Well, with that video, mess with the bird, and THE DOG attacks you...

THEY CAN BECOME THAT BONDED.

Lucy (greenwing) used to go BIG BIRD and chase the dog around the living room, the same way you and I would. And the bird would run around in circles, and run back and forth barking... BUT WAS NEVER THE LEAST BIT AGGRESSIVE.

The CAT was another story.

Only the cat wasn't the aggressor in that story...

LUCY TORMENTED THAT CAT!
 
German shepherds can be the worlds most amazing and sweetest protectors.
 
How can you tell if your bird and your dog have been properly socialized?!

My severe macaw will chase the dogs through the house or go chill with them in the kitchen. He climbs down his cage and walks over to where the dogs are. He did it a few times when I wasn't home (scared the crap out of me when i came home and he wasn't in/on his cage). They co-exist so it works.
 

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That's adorable. My B&G we think was raised as a dog lol He hangs out with them while they're playing. If they get too close he does his big bird I'm gonna get you and they walk away. He also like to go in the kennels. He starts singing when he walks in lol
 
I'm quite conflicted as I watch this video. There's one part of me that wanted to laugh at their antics. They seem to have such affection for one another, and they genuinely enjoy playing this game together. It's a sweet and charming video, and I was quite impressed with the degree of socialization of both animals. The dog, however, in particular. His forbearance, especially toward the end, was pretty much amazing.

All that said, however, there was another, larger part of me that was actually horrified. And for anyone reading not familiar with the dangers, I figured I'd relate exactly why.

As Mark said, any interaction between a dog and a parrot, (or any two animals who are instinctively and respectively classed as predator and prey) if allowed at all, should be VERY closely monitored. And this level of interaction I personally would not even consider. It's just too dangerous on several levels.

For starters, those cute interactions are just a hair's breadth away from terrible tragedy. While the bird in question is a macaw and not an amazon, and thus not nearly as prone to "amazon overload" (to coin Mark's phrase) or whatever the macaw equivalent, any bird can play to the point of over excitement... which can lead to biting! A macaw bite in this instance would be obviously dangerous to the dog, but it would also put the macaw in peril as well for the likely lethal response it could provoke.

And, while far more domesticated than parrots, dogs do get quite worked up over a hearty game of tug-of-war. No matter how well-socialized these two, it has the very real potential of ending in tragedy one day. And it would likely happen far too swiftly and suddenly for the owner to react.

Then there's the danger of the dog's saliva! Mammalian saliva can be very dangerous to parrots, yet these two are swapping spit over that stick with alarming consistency. Now, while dog or cat saliva is not the invariably lethal venom to birds that it is often portrayed to be, it does carry the very real danger of infection. All mammals have gram negative bacteria. Birds do not, and as a result are not equipped to handle it the way we are. This can prove lethal, so why risk it?

So yes, their interaction with that stick, as well as the numerous times that sweet German Shepherd affectionately licked the macaw, made me cringe. And while a part of me did enjoy the video, I would urge all of our members not to attempt to duplicate what they've seen, there. It's just far too dangerous.
 
Yeah, would NEVER happen between my Mac and Shepherd. The video wasn't tug of war, but still. My GSD starts getting excited and pugs. I mean he's sent the cat flying because hes pugged them so hard with his nose. That's his way of saying "you run and I'll herd you!" Lol
 
I would be horrified to see a child allowed to interact in a game like this with a dog. I'm even more horrified to see a bird allowed to do it. It's wrong on so many levels!

The stick is a possession. Both creatures want it and are going for it. Either one could snap and decide to take possession once and for all: the dog by taking a chunk out of the bird or the bird doing likewise to the dog. Either way, it's completely unfair of human beings to put both these animals in harm's way when they are at the mercy of their possessive instincts.

Before anyone replies about training and socialisation, I'm afraid I'm not one who believes it's perfectly all right to 'train' an animal out of its natural reflexes. Dogs like to own sticks. Birds like to own sticks. This scenario presents a potential conflict and either the bird could have its neck bitten out by the dog or the dog could be blinded by the bird. The whole scenario was not so cute it was worth the risk to either animal. As always, this is my private opinion and I do not expect anyone to agree with me. I'm just sayin'.
 
My dogs love my bird but I only allow them extremely closely monitored time together. Even by accident, too many bad things can happen!
 
Predator and prey animals should never be allowed to interact closely like this IMHO- and this video is pretty appalling to me.

Just because a dog is as sweet as can be, doesn't mean they won't hurt or kill a prey animal when their instincts kick in.

http://www.parrotforums.com/showthread.php?t=54577

I hope that any parrot keeping novices don't see the video in THIS thread and think they can try it on their own.

Predator and prey animals do NOT mix...end of story.

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