red tail black 2 info/ experience ??

[chucka]

Hi all Does anyone have any info on owning/training a red tail black cockatoo?
Im very interseted in what there temperament is like ....

Look forward to your reasponses

Cheers Charlie

 

[RavensGryf]

Hi Charlie, there are a couple people here in Australia who own or work with them. Hopefully they'll see this

I've read that they can cost up to $40,000 in the United States where they're seldom seen in aviculture.

 

[Birdman666]

Absolutely NONE.

My girlfriend had a black palm too, but that's the closest I've come.

BP2's are more like macaws than toos...

I've heard third hand that the black ones can also be scream n plucks, but have nothing to base that on myself.

 

[SilverSage]

I have never seen one for sale even, or heard of one for sale. I would love someone on the forum to give us insight though!

 

[Birdman666]

I have never seen one for sale even, or heard of one for sale. I would love someone on the forum to give us insight though!

Neither have I, nor do I know of any breeders here in the States.

 

[thekarens]

The OP is in Oz

 

[Birdman666]

The OP is in Oz

We're off to see the wizard...

 

[SilverSage]

You know, I grew up in the town where Baum lived while he wrote the wizard of oz. Yeah, we had an oz fest every year, the homecoming floats were often oz themed, and we even had a yellow brick road you could walk down and interact with the story including talking trees that tell you to turn back, a "tornado" in Dorothy's house, and the list goes on.


Oh, not the same Oz?

 

[Mekaisto]

Hi Charlie, whereabouts in Australia are you, and how much do you already know about RTBs?

I'm in Victoria, and the samueli subspecies can be as low as $1200, whereas the naso subspecies can get up to over $2500 for a good bird.

A well trained black 'too is gentle, reasonably quiet and very affectionate. When they get hormonal, males can get a little over-excited, but in my experience excitation usually manifests itself as strutting and displaying, rather than biting. Females get hormonal too, and can be a bit moodier than males during breeding season, but again I've never been bitten.
Training is very important for a RTB, you'll want to make sure you teach it to play independently.
Black 'toos love to chew things, so making sure you have plenty of native wood around will keep your bird happy as a lark
It'll also need a bit of 'out-of-cage' time to flap around and stretch its wings.

They don't tend to pick up many words, but training behaviours is easy enough.

You'll find that they're very similar to your galah, although perhaps a little more cuddly, if your galah is anything like the ones I know

I'm happy to answer any specific questions you might have

 

[Juliejet]

I have a RTB and I love him but I'm looking at rehomeing him due to excessive crying,I have posted a few things about what has been going on,if you search crying and parrotrescuecenter you should find them.

Do you have a RBT or are you looking at getting one ??

 

[RavensGryf]

I have never seen one for sale even, or heard of one for sale. I would love someone on the forum to give us insight though!

Neither have I, nor do I know of any breeders here in the States.

I didn't know if we had any at all in the states either, but I read something that led me to believe there are. For the cost of a luxury car... and not sure if that's just for propagation here in the US? I wouldn't think they'd be for sale here as pets.

 

[Mekaisto]

Actually, RTBs are definitely for sale in America, they just aren't common.

Parrots R' Us and Lone Palm aviaries breed them and sell them as pets, and I'm sure there are more.

 

[Delfin]

The export of Black cockatoos from australia are strictly controlled and I believe that you might have to see someone a bit more powerful than the "wizard" to get one legally exported. This is why the Black cockatoos are not often seen in countries out side of Australia.

Unfortunately the practice of illegal poaching and exporting of these birds and other Australian wild life is widespread. The risks are great but the monies to be made is worth the risk. In australia a Black cockatoo can fetch $1750. but just in america they can get from $15,000 to $40,000. There are private collectors who have the money and means to obtain exotic animals.

Thankfully the government has increased the penalties for illegally exporting Australian wildlife. Remember if there was no demand for this wildlife overseas, then there would be no need for poachers to rape the land of it's wildlife. These rejects from the sewers are causing unique animals across the world to become endangered or extincted.

The Black cockatoo is a specialised bird who requires a owner with a bit of experience. So please if you want a bird then get one that you are capable of handling, afford and the time to spend with.

I'm becoming a bit short fused with the world and all the selfish and greedy people who have no problem in contributing toward the extinction of a species of animals. There was three species of tigers that was hunted to extinction in a short period of time, around 100 years. Just so someone could have a tiger skin hanging on the wall or on the floor. what a fitting way for a magificent animal to celebrate it's life.

 

[RavensGryf]

Thanks Mekaisto and Delfin.

For a hand fed pet around $40,000 :52: No wonder they aren't seen or heard of here in the US...

I'm sure they're REALLY particular too, about "who" they sell to so that they don't fall into the wrong hands of inexperienced "breeders" or any old pet owner with cash. Probably like going to a Ferrari dealership they'd look you up and down and check you inside out before even letting you test drive to make sure you're the 'right' person.

 

[chucka]

Thank you for the reply all and Mekaisto
I am currently in port hedland WA about 16 hours up from perth I found a breeder in perth selling the Naso subspecies for $2700 Hand raised with pure breed papers micro chipped and DNA.

Ive been doing alot of reading over the last couple of months and all the different opinions are much the same as you said.

SO i put down depsoit on an egg I want a female so hopefully there is one this season.... He has two eggs due to hatch in september and he said the RTB are slow to wean so maybe march il get her if all things go to plain

Il keep you posted

Im very excited

Thanx Charlie

Hi Charlie, whereabouts in Australia are you, and how much do you already know about RTBs?

I'm in Victoria, and the samueli subspecies can be as low as $1200, whereas the naso subspecies can get up to over $2500 for a good bird.

A well trained black 'too is gentle, reasonably quiet and very affectionate. When they get hormonal, males can get a little over-excited, but in my experience excitation usually manifests itself as strutting and displaying, rather than biting. Females get hormonal too, and can be a bit moodier than males during breeding season, but again I've never been bitten.
Training is very important for a RTB, you'll want to make sure you teach it to play independently.
Black 'toos love to chew things, so making sure you have plenty of native wood around will keep your bird happy as a lark
It'll also need a bit of 'out-of-cage' time to flap around and stretch its wings.

They don't tend to pick up many words, but training behaviours is easy enough.

You'll find that they're very similar to your galah, although perhaps a little more cuddly, if your galah is anything like the ones I know

I'm happy to answer any specific questions you might have

 

[Mekaisto]

Thank you for the reply all and Mekaisto
I am currently in port hedland WA about 16 hours up from perth I found a breeder in perth selling the Naso subspecies for $2700 Hand raised with pure breed papers micro chipped and DNA.

Ive been doing alot of reading over the last couple of months and all the different opinions are much the same as you said.

SO i put down depsoit on an egg I want a female so hopefully there is one this season.... He has two eggs due to hatch in september and he said the RTB are slow to wean so maybe march il get her if all things go to plain

Il keep you posted

Im very excited

Thanx Charlie

Ooh, that's exciting!
Nasos are one of my favourite subspecies - lovely colours in the tail, especially in the females.

Waiting will be the hard part, at least you can see photos and stuff during the hand-raising process

 

[chucka]

Yes very excited and the wait will be hard..

Once he has confirmed he has a female for me il fly down a couple of times to say hello and start building an inside and oustide cage

 

[Mekaisto]

Yes very excited and the wait will be hard..

Once he has confirmed he has a female for me il fly down a couple of times to say hello and start building an inside and oustide cage

An outside cage would be great, these birds definitely love to fly and climb

 

[chucka]

Got my first pic from the breeder
15 days old ish ...
Hopefully he can take he/she to the vet in a couple of weeks for a DNA

 

[Mekaisto]

Haha look at that smile! He/she's looking happy and healthy so far