Pray for James
- Thread starter SilleIN
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Working on it! :51: and sending lots of :07:
Oh, James, no matter what it is, we're ready to be with you, you too, Sille, of course.
Sille, do please tell us what's happening, when you are able.
Sille, do please tell us what's happening, when you are able.
Prays and huge, warm Amazon Feather Hugs!
Betrisher
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Sending prayers and warmest healing thoughts to James and to you too, Sille. I hope he feels better very soon! XX
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I'm sending positive-energy your way and Jame's way...
Just to add something, be very, very careful with that red heat-bulb, it looks awfully close to James, and they aren't meant to be very close to the birds, and often the red heat-bulbs (usually meant for poultry) cause eye damage and blindness, especially if they are very close...My mom and stepfather have bred/raised Game and Poultry birds for years and years, and they stopped using the red heat-bulbs for exactly this reason, and it also happens very often in the reptile world with any and all red UVA/heat bulbs, they sustain permanent eye damage and blindness quickly when underneath them. I just don't want poor James to be uncomfortable or suffer any other issues whiles he's going through what he already is...
Just to add something, be very, very careful with that red heat-bulb, it looks awfully close to James, and they aren't meant to be very close to the birds, and often the red heat-bulbs (usually meant for poultry) cause eye damage and blindness, especially if they are very close...My mom and stepfather have bred/raised Game and Poultry birds for years and years, and they stopped using the red heat-bulbs for exactly this reason, and it also happens very often in the reptile world with any and all red UVA/heat bulbs, they sustain permanent eye damage and blindness quickly when underneath them. I just don't want poor James to be uncomfortable or suffer any other issues whiles he's going through what he already is...
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Thanks for all your prayers, it looks like they worked.
This morning I went into the macaws indoor aviary and James was caught between a twisted branch close to where the branch is hooked to the aviary wall. He had tried to squeeze through the only place, there was not enough room for him. If he had gone just a little to either side or down again, no problem, but he tried to pull himself through and he got stuck.
He was really cold and unresponsive. I got him loose and took him inside, took off my clothes and put him next to my body. I put a carbo vitalis pill on his tongue. Within a few minutes he started convulsing and his body started to tense up (if you have ever seen a bird die, you know what I'm talking about). He stopped breathing and I started to pull at his legs and press his chest and blow into his nares/mouth. It was a little rough, but I could not kill him any more- he was basically dead.
After what seemed like an eternity, his body started relaxing and I thought I'd lost him, but there came a small struggling breath. I placed him under the infrared light and made him some handrearing formula (I would normally not put any heat that close to a bird and especially not a bird with no feathers, but at this point, we were life and death). I had to get his temperature up as fast as possible. I dabbed some aloe on the bare patched of skin to make sure he did not get "sunburn".
To begin with he would only breathe once or twice a minute. After a while he started to breathe normally and I moved the infrared to a safe distance. I gave him one more carbo vitalis. He was at this point started to be responsive and his favorite thing is mixed fruit juice. I offered him some juice in a syringe and he drank it quite fast. At this point he pooped a water and urea poop, but it had no green, so he must have been stuck for quite some hours. I offered him some more formula and he ate a little.
After that he slept for a few hours, but react if a bird flew by or any other disturbance. He woke up and he sort of looked at me, as in "Give me something". I started to offer him juice, which he gulped. I didn't want to give him too much juice, so I offered him water and he was really thirsty. I then offered him some food and he started eating:
At this point he has now moved to the edge of the sofa and even though he's a bit wonky, he is "perching":
James has also now pooped as he should. It's a bit to dark, but I guess there's a lot of toxins James needs to flush from his system after being so close to death.
He's not himself yet, but I do believe he is out of the woods.
Thank you again for all your prayers- we really needed them.
This morning I went into the macaws indoor aviary and James was caught between a twisted branch close to where the branch is hooked to the aviary wall. He had tried to squeeze through the only place, there was not enough room for him. If he had gone just a little to either side or down again, no problem, but he tried to pull himself through and he got stuck.
He was really cold and unresponsive. I got him loose and took him inside, took off my clothes and put him next to my body. I put a carbo vitalis pill on his tongue. Within a few minutes he started convulsing and his body started to tense up (if you have ever seen a bird die, you know what I'm talking about). He stopped breathing and I started to pull at his legs and press his chest and blow into his nares/mouth. It was a little rough, but I could not kill him any more- he was basically dead.
After what seemed like an eternity, his body started relaxing and I thought I'd lost him, but there came a small struggling breath. I placed him under the infrared light and made him some handrearing formula (I would normally not put any heat that close to a bird and especially not a bird with no feathers, but at this point, we were life and death). I had to get his temperature up as fast as possible. I dabbed some aloe on the bare patched of skin to make sure he did not get "sunburn".
To begin with he would only breathe once or twice a minute. After a while he started to breathe normally and I moved the infrared to a safe distance. I gave him one more carbo vitalis. He was at this point started to be responsive and his favorite thing is mixed fruit juice. I offered him some juice in a syringe and he drank it quite fast. At this point he pooped a water and urea poop, but it had no green, so he must have been stuck for quite some hours. I offered him some more formula and he ate a little.
After that he slept for a few hours, but react if a bird flew by or any other disturbance. He woke up and he sort of looked at me, as in "Give me something". I started to offer him juice, which he gulped. I didn't want to give him too much juice, so I offered him water and he was really thirsty. I then offered him some food and he started eating:
At this point he has now moved to the edge of the sofa and even though he's a bit wonky, he is "perching":
James has also now pooped as he should. It's a bit to dark, but I guess there's a lot of toxins James needs to flush from his system after being so close to death.
He's not himself yet, but I do believe he is out of the woods.
Thank you again for all your prayers- we really needed them.
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I'm so glad you were able to assist James and return him to a better state. Poor baby, hope he continues to improve rapidly and normalize.
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Omg what an ordeal. That absolutely put you through the wringer I’m sure. But what a Wonderful outcome! Well done, I’m so elated for you!
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This is now the second time I'm really really happy to be working for the largest emergency company in the country. Even though I am "just" an IT person, they want every employee to have top notch emergency training.
First time my dog got a heart attack and I was able to revive him. This time James got saved because I kept my cool and knew what to do, but OHH boy I am knackered now. I don't feel like celebrating new years eve, I just want to sit on my couch and make sure James comes through, but I have guests coming over.
I have taken James's "boyfriend" inside also and James really appreciates him being there.
James, you wonderful stinker! As soon as you're totally better, I'm gonna yell at you!
You scared us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You scared us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- May 23, 2018
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- Sunny a female B&G macaw;
Japie (m) & Appie (f), both are congo african grey;
All are rescues- had to leave their previous homes for 'reasons', are still in contact with them :)
Glad he is still with us.That was quite a save you pulled there.
I hope he will keep improving.
(His friend must have been really relieved to see James again.)
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Sille, I take my hat off to you. That was an amazing piece of rescue work you did and thankfully, James gets to live on purely because of you. Please give him a kiss from me. You, poor thing, should be given chocolate and many hugs! You must have been beside yourself during all that drama. Still sending prayers that James continues to recover well and that your poor shattered nerves do to. XX
Tami2
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Thank GOD you found him when you did.
You saved his life, you are his Angel!
I will be following to hear all about his progress.
Sending prayers for his continued recovery. :heart:
You saved his life, you are his Angel!
I will be following to hear all about his progress.
Sending prayers for his continued recovery. :heart:
Oliver17
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Get Better James, nice work Sille he is very lucky to have you
Best wishes
Best wishes
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I have just had the worst night ever. I was expecting there would be an issue getting the toxins through James' system, but boy I thought I would loose him several times during the night.
After he started eating and pooping I thought the worst was over- I WAS WRONG!
First I noticed the only thing, that seemed to go through the crop was liquid, but by midnight I don't think anything moved forward and he stopped eating and drinking. He looked like a 3 week old chick, that had just had his meal, the crop was that big.
His pooping also seemed to be more and more difficult for him to pass and it all had the consistency of morning droppings- where there was no real dividing of the liquid, urea and green (what is the name of the green part of the poop?) The poop also seemed quite dry.
Just past midnight he started having cramps and he was trying to "walk them off" and I did not know, if I should try to keep him still or I should just let him go through the cramps. When I would pet him, it seemed the cramps would stop.
I later noticed that the cramps would come just before he would poop and he then would relax until the next time.
I found out, it seemed the cramps weren't as bad, when I had James under my blanket. He was upset being restricted in that way, but seemed to stop the cramps. He would just flap his wings prior to pooping and I could place a baby wipe under his cloaca.
At about 5 o'clock James seemed to have improved and I let him go. He first went to check where Sugar was and he came back to me in the bedroom and settled in a low perch right next to my bed. As he went to sleep I needed some shut eye too. I checked him every hour, but he was just sleeping.
This "morning" (closer to noon) James' crop has shrunk significantly and he is again hungry. His behaviour seem normal and he's no longer wonky. I haven't been able to see his poop (as he and Sugar is playing and I can't see which poop is which). I can see James has pooped 5 times during his sleep and they all look like the ones from yesterday.
I thought he was in the clear yesterday, but as I was wrong yesterday, I don't want to feel too sure yet.
I am SO happy James is such a fighter as he seems to be.
I'll try to get hold of the vet today and ask if James should get antibiotics to combat any potential infection as I guess a pneumonia could be a risk due to hypothermia.
After he started eating and pooping I thought the worst was over- I WAS WRONG!
First I noticed the only thing, that seemed to go through the crop was liquid, but by midnight I don't think anything moved forward and he stopped eating and drinking. He looked like a 3 week old chick, that had just had his meal, the crop was that big.
His pooping also seemed to be more and more difficult for him to pass and it all had the consistency of morning droppings- where there was no real dividing of the liquid, urea and green (what is the name of the green part of the poop?) The poop also seemed quite dry.
Just past midnight he started having cramps and he was trying to "walk them off" and I did not know, if I should try to keep him still or I should just let him go through the cramps. When I would pet him, it seemed the cramps would stop.
I later noticed that the cramps would come just before he would poop and he then would relax until the next time.
I found out, it seemed the cramps weren't as bad, when I had James under my blanket. He was upset being restricted in that way, but seemed to stop the cramps. He would just flap his wings prior to pooping and I could place a baby wipe under his cloaca.
At about 5 o'clock James seemed to have improved and I let him go. He first went to check where Sugar was and he came back to me in the bedroom and settled in a low perch right next to my bed. As he went to sleep I needed some shut eye too. I checked him every hour, but he was just sleeping.
This "morning" (closer to noon) James' crop has shrunk significantly and he is again hungry. His behaviour seem normal and he's no longer wonky. I haven't been able to see his poop (as he and Sugar is playing and I can't see which poop is which). I can see James has pooped 5 times during his sleep and they all look like the ones from yesterday.
I thought he was in the clear yesterday, but as I was wrong yesterday, I don't want to feel too sure yet.
I am SO happy James is such a fighter as he seems to be.
I'll try to get hold of the vet today and ask if James should get antibiotics to combat any potential infection as I guess a pneumonia could be a risk due to hypothermia.
