optimal cage size for an amazon?

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How about this one?

28x36x50 (50,000 cu in)
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it is used. how does one make sure it is disease free?
 

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How about this one?

28x36x50 (50,000 cu in)
see pic

it is used. how does one make sure it is disease free?
That cage looks great!

The bar spacing is way to small for an amazon.
 
I am noticing a lot of cages posted here are getting good reviews from other members... Am I the only one noticing that the bar spacing in a lot of these cages are to small for an amazon? The flight cage; The price is right, I would have gotten one for my grey, but the bar spacing. Yikes.
 
Well maybe. It's the Gage you need to worry and the weld.
That cage looks small still but better than the other. As long as you interact with him and give plenty of out of cage time your fine. Cage size is just for sleep. I have a rather large cage for Sam. But he sometimes chooses to stay and play. His cage is loaded with hard toys. Amazons chew there cage. And very well known for breaking welds.
This cage is fine. Just pay attention to his actions. Amazon essp dyh yc yn and bf are some extreamlly great escape artists. Lots of pressure in that beak.
 
Cage size is just for sleep.

Not everyone puts their parrots in the cage for just sleep. I would worry about an active amazon getting toes or a beak stuck in the tiny bars while playing. Maybe thats just me, but I think the bar spacing should be something to keep in mind.
 
Why didn you quote the rest.


"That cage looks small still but better than the other. As long as you interact with him and give plenty of out of cage time your fine. Cage size is just for sleep."

I was agreeing with you. Just stating that it was better than the other. And my zon used to be in a 1/2 inch spacing before his cage now. He would climb all over. Never had any problems other than him breaking welds and getting out. Wasn disagreeing with anything. Acually agreeing lol
 
Why is the bar spacing to small? It is a good size on the flight cage...What size are you looking for and why? Just curious is all...thanks.
 
I don't look at bar spacing to much. It's the weld that crap.
And if he plans keeping him in there 80% of the time. That cage is a lil small. It's all on if there's alot of playtime to offer. I usally let Sam choose where he wants to go. He's always out.
 
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I don't look at bar spacing to much. It's the weld that crap.
And if he plans keeping him in there 80% of the time. That cage is a lil small. It's all on if there's alot of playtime to offer. I usally let Sam choose where he wants to go. He's always out.
Please explain the bar spacing issue. If its too close,what happens? their toes get caught?

That cage is 50,000 cu in,and that is still too small?
 
Here is a link for bar spacing.....just to give you an idea...I hope this helps.

Bird Flight Cage & Aviary Bar Spacing Recommendations


And here is a link for cage size

http://www.bird-cage.com/amazon-cages


Honestly, do the best you can.....money doesn't grow on trees and some cages are far to expensive....I think just about anything would be better then what she is in now.
When I first got my Hahns macaw, we got a cage from my brother in law...it seemed big enough....then one day Dusty (my macaw) climbed into my caiques flight cage and played for over two hours in there...He was so happy with all the space....it was fun to watch...thats when I knew it was time for a bigger cage.....Again, good luck and I hope you can find something that is big enough and reasonably priced..
Sometime when you have time, I would love to hear any stories about this amazon...I am amazed and so happy that this bird has one owner its whole life...incredible, just incredible.
 
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Cages are more complicated than I thought. Merlins is 7/8". I dont think the smaller bar spacing are that big of a problem, but they generally have lighter gauge wire which is a problem w/the big beaks like amazons.
 
Acually there not complicated at all. This thread made it complicated. Yes there risk of the toes gettin caught. But iv never heard a case. But read the precaution. For macaws yes. There climbers and iv heard toes being broken from getting caught in 1/4 spacing.
But zons don't have those big big thick feet. Well all parrots do. Lol
But macaws have huge feet compared to any zon iv worked with. Amazons tend to break welds and often. As Merlin said it gauge that's a huge deal. And your cage is FINE.
Not to small. I was saying that it's a small cage still but vs what he was in it's a mansion.
Also a nice a large door.
But 10,000 cubic inchs. That's huge. I think lol. My cage is 4 feet long and 4 1/2 tall
And 3 feet wide. I don't think my cage is even 10,000 cubic in. Maybe 1000.
But I'm horriable at numbers. I could be so off. It's not even funny lol.
That new cage is just fine.
 
I think HQs are the best!! Since you live in Socal, you should definitely check out Omar's Exotic Birds. They offer great food mixtures, and awesome HQ cages!
 
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Acually there not complicated at all. This thread made it complicated. Yes there risk of the toes gettin caught. But iv never heard a case. But read the precaution. For macaws yes. There climbers and iv heard toes being broken from getting caught in 1/4 spacing.
But zons don't have those big big thick feet. Well all parrots do. Lol
But macaws have huge feet compared to any zon iv worked with. Amazons tend to break welds and often. As Merlin said it gauge that's a huge deal. And your cage is FINE.
Not to small. I was saying that it's a small cage still but vs what he was in it's a mansion.
Also a nice a large door.
But 10,000 cubic inchs. That's huge. I think lol. My cage is 4 feet long and 4 1/2 tall
And 3 feet wide. I don't think my cage is even 10,000 cubic in. Maybe 1000.
But I'm horriable at numbers. I could be so off. It's not even funny lol.
That new cage is just fine.
Thank you for clarifying the guage thing.


BTW,your cage is 93,000 cu in (48x54x36)
 
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Sam's magnificent new chalet! And you ALL played and big part.

Is it too big?
He has gone from 8000 cu in to 50,000 cu in.
This was much nicer that it looked in that photo from CL above.
It's HUGE.
And very sturdy.Probably for a Macaw?

Any tips on helping him acclimate?

My mother will have a fit!
 

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I'm so excited for him! Yea! Try putting it beside his old cage & let him crawl around on it. I bet he chooses the new cage. Thanks for helping him. Tell you mom "what new cage, do we need to have your glasses checked?" lol
 
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Actually,I might have to put the old cage inside the new cage.He doesnt seem to believe his good fortune.

Or,I could put my mom in the new cage to lure him in.she is only 4'11 now so she would fit.
 
Maybe put a few toys in the new cage. That might get him to go in. :)
 
A lady I know on another forum rescued a amazon who had spent 30 years in a small cage. She did put the small cage inside of the large one until he decided he would go into it. Since he is out of his cage some, you could try putting his favorite food inside the new cage. If you put your mom in the new cage, she's bound to notice that its not the same cage. lol
 

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