need help, budgie wont stop screeching after move

[Emperor]

long story short, i just moved to a new apartment 1 week ago and took my parent's girl budgie to be with my male budgie since she gets lonely, my male budgie i had 1 year but my male budgie wont stop screeching like crazy, he will get me kicked out!!

right now they are together in a big cage (f040) with good toys and everything, they arent fighting or anything, but he is screeching nonstop like crazy!!!

the only way i can get him to be quiet is by putting the cage in my bedroom and closing the door.

i tried puting them in seperate cages, but that didnt work out cus the girl budgie kept wanting to go to the nice big cage, and he kept on calling out to her.

im so upset and its driving me crazy especially since i have severe anxiety disorder, and im depressed cus i built a good bond with my male budgie and now im going to lose it and i cant just return the girl budgie cus parents live 1300 miles away and i dont want to just give her away, im basically stuck but honestly for about the last 10 years i kinda knew that i will spend every day of my life in tears until I die.

 

[GaleriaGila]

Welcome! Lots of people to help you out. I'm not much of an expert, but many here are. Meanwhile, You can take any issue or topic which interests you, use the Search Tab and then read about it. The people here are an amazing source of information. I'm glad you found us and I hope somebody can help you. At least you can quiet him by putting him in the bedroom, for now...
Hang in there. Good luck!

 

[SilverSage]

It sounds like your male budgie may just be courting. What sort of screeching is it? This may actually be a sign that he is HAPPY depending on the sound.

Some ideas to help with the noise of it is just happy birds sounds:

Leave your apartment when the sounds are loudest. See how far away you can get and still hear them. Then see what sorts of sounds are coming from other units; are yours really any louder? Are they louder than the wild birds? Sometimes it helps to realize the other people may not even be noticing your noises.

Look up your rules for the apartment. In most places you would need to receive a warning before you could just be kicked out. Usually several warnings IN WRITING.

You can turn on fans, rock tumblers, music, TV, and other noises near the birds or near doors and windows to muffle the sounds.

You can cover your birds at night and not remove the cover until after 8am. Usually it's early morning noise that really annoys people.

Try distractions.

If it were a different kind of parrot I would suggest a bunch of other things, but budgies are typically quite chattery when happy, as opposed to most parrots who are typically much louder when UNhappy.


Now for a different topic: I suffer from severe Generalized Anxiety, Social Anxiety, Major Depressive Disorder, Compulsive Disorders, and Sensory Processing issues. I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE to think you can never be happy again, as well as the other crap that goes along with these things. What I'm telling you is that you need to GET HELP. If you had cancer, you would go to the DOCTOR, right? If you had a broken leg? These things that you are suffering are TREATABLE. You do not need to live a life that you hate; you can have a GOOD LIFE. Please seek help from a qualified professional. It was the best choice I have ever made.


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[EllenD]

I agree with what SilverSage has said, I bred budgies for 16 years, I have 8 as pets and another 10 breeders, and it sounds like your male is REALLY excited and happy to have a female in his cage...I have some suggestions for you, speaking as a breeder...

#1, I would NOT keep them in the same cage! What will most likely happen is that they will bond to each other and start mating, and your "pet" male budgie that you're close to will not want to be near you anymore, or at least he won't be bonded to you anymore, but rather be bonded to the female. Budgies are very monogamous breeders, and you can keep a budgie that is bonded to you in the same cage with other budgies of the same sex, but as soon as a budgie of the opposite sex is in the cage they will attempt to bond with that budgie, and if they do bond (usually do) they will mate and you will lose your pet. Plus you'll have fertile eggs and little babies. Keeping no nest box in their cage helps, but will not really stop them from breeding in the spring and in the fall. So I would separate them immediately into 2 different cages now.

As for the screaming, where did you keep your male budgie prior? Was he in a high traffic room like the living room, or was he in your bedroom? Did he call for you before? My guess is he's just calling for the female, and like I said, you need to separate them immediately anyway if you want to keep your pet male, so the next step after separating them will be trying different cages in different rooms, and just toughing out the initial separation. He should calm down after a few days of being separated from the female. But you'll have to tough it out and not put them back together...

I wish you luck, but heed my warning and please separate them now before they really bond...and yes, please get some professional help... depression is a serious disease, it's a very real disease and you don't have to live the way you are. There is help available, you just have to go get it...I wish the best for you

"Dance Like Nobody's Watching"

 

[SilverSage]

I respectfully disagree about separating them. In my experience bonded pairs of parrots including budgies can still be great friends with you even when mate bonded to another bird. Also I have had male budgies raise simultaneous clutches with two different females at a time. Also in my experience (though admittedly never tried with budgies) birds living in separate cages can still become mate bonded.


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[Emperor]

I agree with what SilverSage has said, I bred budgies for 16 years, I have 8 as pets and another 10 breeders, and it sounds like your male is REALLY excited and happy to have a female in his cage...I have some suggestions for you, speaking as a breeder...

#1, I would NOT keep them in the same cage! What will most likely happen is that they will bond to each other and start mating, and your "pet" male budgie that you're close to will not want to be near you anymore, or at least he won't be bonded to you anymore, but rather be bonded to the female. Budgies are very monogamous breeders, and you can keep a budgie that is bonded to you in the same cage with other budgies of the same sex, but as soon as a budgie of the opposite sex is in the cage they will attempt to bond with that budgie, and if they do bond (usually do) they will mate and you will lose your pet. Plus you'll have fertile eggs and little babies. Keeping no nest box in their cage helps, but will not really stop them from breeding in the spring and in the fall. So I would separate them immediately into 2 different cages now.

As for the screaming, where did you keep your male budgie prior? Was he in a high traffic room like the living room, or was he in your bedroom? Did he call for you before? My guess is he's just calling for the female, and like I said, you need to separate them immediately anyway if you want to keep your pet male, so the next step after separating them will be trying different cages in different rooms, and just toughing out the initial separation. He should calm down after a few days of being separated from the female. But you'll have to tough it out and not put them back together...

I wish you luck, but heed my warning and please separate them now before they really bond...and yes, please get some professional help... depression is a serious disease, it's a very real disease and you don't have to live the way you are. There is help available, you just have to go get it...I wish the best for you

"Dance Like Nobody's Watching"

My friend who is a parrot expert suggested the same thing - i got a new nice cage coming in the mail tomorrow, i'll put my male in that one and put it next to my computer desk and keep my female in the flight cage on the other side of the room and leave the doors open so they can visit each other and my male can fly back to me and hang out (thats how it was at my parents house)

I've actually spent many years going in circles in the mental health system. Sadly it's not always a simple matter of "just getting help" and the mental health system didn't become an 88 billion dollar industry by helping people, but I am now doing a million times better compared to back when I was a drugged up cash cow.

 

[EllenD]

I respectfully disagree about separating them. In my experience bonded pairs of parrots including budgies can still be great friends with you even when mate bonded to another bird. Also I have had male budgies raise simultaneous clutches with two different females at a time. Also in my experience (though admittedly never tried with budgies) birds living in separate cages can still become mate bonded.


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I would agree with you if they weren't budgies. If a male and female bond (and just because they are put together doesn't mean they will like each other, but usually if it's the only other bird available they will) and they are budgies, it's extremely difficult to maintain a close relationship with one of the birds. I have a few breeders that started out as pets, and the only difference between them and the other breeders who were breeders when I got them and had never been pets is that i can still get the two that were pets to step up, and they aren't scared of hands or sitting on me. But as far as having the same relationship or bond that I had with them prior, it's not even close. They just lose interest in humans, especially during breeding seasons. Now my mom bred cockatiels, and she had pets that she bred twice a year but she kept them separate the rest of the year, and they seemed to be okay with her, except if they visibly saw their mate or heard them, then they had a one track mind.

All I can say is that in my 16 years of breeding English and American budgies (and 30 years of owning them as pets), once a pet budgie bonds with another budgie of the opposite sex and mates with them, they are not nearly as good a pet as they were. They will tolerate their humans and allow them to touch them, and are not scared of them, but they really no longer have any type of bond with humans, they are just kind of there.

"Dance Like Nobody's Watching"

 

[EllenD]

I agree with what SilverSage has said, I bred budgies for 16 years, I have 8 as pets and another 10 breeders, and it sounds like your male is REALLY excited and happy to have a female in his cage...I have some suggestions for you, speaking as a breeder...

#1, I would NOT keep them in the same cage! What will most likely happen is that they will bond to each other and start mating, and your "pet" male budgie that you're close to will not want to be near you anymore, or at least he won't be bonded to you anymore, but rather be bonded to the female. Budgies are very monogamous breeders, and you can keep a budgie that is bonded to you in the same cage with other budgies of the same sex, but as soon as a budgie of the opposite sex is in the cage they will attempt to bond with that budgie, and if they do bond (usually do) they will mate and you will lose your pet. Plus you'll have fertile eggs and little babies. Keeping no nest box in their cage helps, but will not really stop them from breeding in the spring and in the fall. So I would separate them immediately into 2 different cages now.

As for the screaming, where did you keep your male budgie prior? Was he in a high traffic room like the living room, or was he in your bedroom? Did he call for you before? My guess is he's just calling for the female, and like I said, you need to separate them immediately anyway if you want to keep your pet male, so the next step after separating them will be trying different cages in different rooms, and just toughing out the initial separation. He should calm down after a few days of being separated from the female. But you'll have to tough it out and not put them back together...

I wish you luck, but heed my warning and please separate them now before they really bond...and yes, please get some professional help... depression is a serious disease, it's a very real disease and you don't have to live the way you are. There is help available, you just have to go get it...I wish the best for you

"Dance Like Nobody's Watching"

My friend who is a parrot expert suggested the same thing - i got a new nice cage coming in the mail tomorrow, i'll put my male in that one and put it next to my computer desk and keep my female in the flight cage on the other side of the room and leave the doors open so they can visit each other and my male can fly back to me and hang out (thats how it was at my parents house)

I've actually spent many years going in circles in the mental health system. Sadly it's not always a simple matter of "just getting help" and the mental health system didn't become an 88 billion dollar industry by helping people, but I am now doing a million times better compared to back when I was a drugged up cash cow.

I believe you're doing the right thing. As I said I've bred and owned budgies for decades, and if you want to keep your bond with your male budgie you need to separate them asap. Just my opinion, but it is based on a lot of budgie experience.

"Dance Like Nobody's Watching"

 

[EllenD]

And I understand what you're saying about getting help, I was under the impression that you hadn't yet pursued any type of psychological treatment. Just as the mental health industry loves to shove pills down our throats the physical health industry does the same, and they also love to cut. I have had many friends that were turned into zombies for a while by their meds, when really all they wanted (and needed) was someone to talk to and to have listen.

"Dance Like Nobody's Watching"

 

[SilverSage]

My own experience with budgies has been quite different, however there are always exceptions to the rule. My experience of fantastic budgie pets who were breeders is limited to a few birds. I also keep my pet cockatiels in pairs, as well as my Irns and gccs, and have a great time, but my super sweet tame pet budgies were childhood pets and there were only a few. I don't have decades of experience with the budgies as they are not my specialty.


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