Jordan went to the vet

[ParrotLover2001]

Jordan was wounded yesterday, and had to stay the night at the vet. I'm going in today to pick her up, but now I've got less than $200 left. I can't find a new job, and I no longer have the money for a vet if something like this happens again. And I'm sure I'll have to pay for pain meds. So, what happened with Jordan was something I wasn't expecting. Her cage mate, Opal, jumped to one of the perches (this one was in diagnol because it was too long) that perch fell on top of Jordan, and created a wound on her back. I probably stressed her, but since she doesn't step up for me while in her cage, I gently grabbed her and brought her to the vet, it was late into the evening when it happened. I was hoping that it wasn't too deep, and wouldn't require being under anesthesia, but it did, she stayed the night there. I spent more than I had hoped, but if Jordan's ok, it was well worth it.

But why did the perch fall in the first place? It was probably loose, not positioned correctly, so when even the slightest amount of pressure was added to one end, it would fall. I'm just guessing, since it happened twice before, and because if I had put in correctly none of this would have happened.

After a diagnol perch fell for the first time, I started putting pressure on them when placing then in the cages, but whenever I forgot, a perch fell. Luckily the first two perches didn't hit anyone, and hopefully this will be the last time one of my birds will get hit by a falling perch.

When Jordan gets home, she'll be spoiled with millets, and her favorite fruits and veggies. I'll leave her alone so she can rest, but she'll have plenty of her favorite things in her cage, and she'll have the cage to herself. Opal will move back with Elvis for the time being.

Now I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put diagnol perches in my cages. I don't want another bird to get hurt if I forget to pressure the perch first.



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[LordTriggs]

any and all perches should be bolt on ones pure and simple, I trust nothing less than a perch with a long bolt and heavy duty nut to keep it held on

you say you're wondering if you should have diagonal perches when you're literally bringing a bird who had to stay overnight in the vet's because one fell. Just think about that for a second.

 

[itzjbean]

My suggestion is to get rid of the perches you have and get the ones LordTriggs suggested, the ones that bolt in the cage itself. They're cheap and you can find them on Amazon, Chewy, local pet store. In my cockatiels' cage I have one concrete one that's about 6 inches long(bolts in), one rope (both ends bolted) and two wooden perches (both bolted on ends). I've never had an issue with them popping out or getting loose.

I hope Jordan makes a smooth recovery. Money is always an issue when caring for an injured pet, which is why it is important to have the security of income of some sort to ensure you have the means to care for your pets should problems arise (and of course food and toys). Hope you can find a job to keep continuing to care for your flock, good luck.

 

[Terry57]

What kind of perch created a wound? Was it sharp in places? How deep was the wound that it required sedation? What did the vet do for him?
I have lost count of the number of injuries and deaths you have had in your flock now, and am more concerned than ever for your birds.
If this did happen, and these perches had fallen multiple times before, why would they be put back into the cage?
I am not trying to be mean, but my concern for your birds overrides me trying to be gentle.

 

[ParrotLover2001]

What kind of perch created a wound? Was it sharp in places? How deep was the wound that it required sedation? What did the vet do for him?
I have lost count of the number of injuries and deaths you have had in your flock now, and am more concerned than ever for your birds.
If this did happen, and these perches had fallen multiple times before, why would they be put back into the cage?
I am not trying to be mean, but my concern for your birds overrides me trying to be gentle.

Th first 2 were wooden perches of different lengths. This one was a one of those concrete perches, or whatever it is called.
She had managed to chew the ends of it which I hadn't noticed before the accident, when I checked out the perch it was sharper than it should have been, I threw it away, like I do with all the chewed toys/perches.
I was told it wasn't that deep, but it had to be stitched up to help prevent infection and the fact that she could bleed to death.
I brought Jordan home, she is doing well now. I won't be getting those perches anymore, instead I'll be getting those perches that screw onto the sides if the cage, that way this won't happen again.


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[ParrotLover2001]

My suggestion is to get rid of the perches you have and get the ones LordTriggs suggested, the ones that bolt in the cage itself. They're cheap and you can find them on Amazon, Chewy, local pet store. In my cockatiels' cage I have one concrete one that's about 6 inches long(bolts in), one rope (both ends bolted) and two wooden perches (both bolted on ends). I've never had an issue with them popping out or getting loose.

I hope Jordan makes a smooth recovery. Money is always an issue when caring for an injured pet, which is why it is important to have the security of income of some sort to ensure you have the means to care for your pets should problems arise (and of course food and toys). Hope you can find a job to keep continuing to care for your flock, good luck.

Yes I have started doing that. I've started throwing out the perches, I'm going to keep one for training outside of the cage, and get mostly bolt ones.


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[Allee]

You brought Jordan home already? A wound that required stitches and sedatives, a skilled avian vet would see that as a challenge for such a small bird, I'm shocked Jordan was released so soon and has already miraculously recovered. I'm happy she's doing so well. I'm curious, how did they bandage the wound to send her home? Do you have photos?

I've never seen a concrete perch that a cockatiel could chew the end off of. Every concrete perch I have has a screw and bolt in one end, these perches are heavy, if I'm thinking of the same ones. Lightweight scratchy perches made for cages with small gauge wire couldn't cause a serious injury unless you maybe hit a bird with it and that's too horrific to imagine.

 

[Scott]

So the heavy perch fell twice? Third time definitely not a charm, and it is amazing Jordan survived a hefty blow to the back. Surprised but the wound was limited to flesh. Did the vet take an X-Ray to ensure there are no broken bones?

I am certain you are grateful Jordan survived, but frankly it is time to reassess animal husbandry, for their benefit.

 

[Anansi]

So she chewed the ends of pressure mounted concrete perches to sharpened points? I don't know which amazes me more, her apparently adamantine beak or the sheer ingenuity necessary to pull the end of a pressure mounted perch free, whittle it, and then shove it back into place.

Are we talking a member of your flock, or of the X-men?

Best case scenario here is that you're spinning tales, again. Worst case? Your bird was indeed injured and you've altered the circumstances somewhat to render them more palatable. I'm hoping for the former but, given the frightening number of life-threatening injuries that have accosted your birds just in the past several months, I'm fearing the latter.

If it is the latter, please rehome your flock. Every last bird. Honestly, your home is just not a safe place for them.

 

[ParrotLover2001]

So she chewed the ends of pressure mounted concrete perches to sharpened points? I don't know which amazes me more, her apparently adamantine beak or the sheer ingenuity necessary to pull the end of a pressure mounted perch free, whittle it, and then shove it back into place.

Are we talking a member of your flock, or of the X-men?

Best case scenario here is that you're spinning tales, again. Worst case? Your bird was indeed injured and you've altered the circumstances somewhat to render them more palatable. I'm hoping for the former but, given the frightening number of life-threatening injuries that have accosted your birds just in the past several months, I'm fearing the latter.

If it is the latter, please rehome your flock. Every last bird. Honestly, your home is just not a safe place for them.

It wasn't pressure mounted, otherwise it wouldn't have falling off.
It wouldn't say sharper points, but it was sharp enough to cause some damage if falling from a great height. It didn't help that the bar the perch was on was weak and bendable.

Also, this was no avian vet, they probably didn't even know what's considered a deep wound for a bird. They didn't even put a "birdie cone" on her

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[ParrotLover2001]

So the heavy perch fell twice? Third time definitely not a charm, and it is amazing Jordan survived a hefty blow to the back. Surprised but the wound was limited to flesh. Did the vet take an X-Ray to ensure there are no broken bones?

I am certain you are grateful Jordan survived, but frankly it is time to reassess animal husbandry, for their benefit.

X-rays were done, to make sure it didn't hit her spine or shoulder. It was the first time this perch fell, the third time any perch fell. Like I said before, the first 2 were wooden.
They did a few other tests to make sure everything was working fine, along with a simple exam.

She'll be going back in 2 weeks for a follow up.

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[FlyBirdiesFly]

Umm... you're taking your bird to a non-avian vet? Well, they know nothing about birds and if you can't take your birds to an avian vet, you should rehomed them. If you are not willing to provide proper medical care for your pets, you shouldn't have them. I've read about other instances with your birds and you are literally replacing them like merchandise. You went out and bought Opal while your poor budgie Chrissy was lying in a shoebox wounded without vet care and you thought he was going to die. Instead of using that ride and that money to take him to the vet, you bought another bird. And I don't even know what happened after that. First you said he passed, then you said he went back to normal, then you said he escaped and was killed by a wild bird, and then you said he was hit by a car. And I saw your YouTube channel and you had another bird named Lucky, what happened to her? What the heck is going on? And now you're asking whether you should continue to use this perch when your bird just got hurt because of it. Take proper care of your birds, or rehome them.

 

[ParrotLover2001]

Umm... you're taking your bird to a non-avian vet? Well, they know nothing about birds and if you can't take your birds to an avian vet, you should rehomed them. If you are not willing to provide proper medical care for your pets, you shouldn't have them. I've read about other instances with your birds and you are literally replacing them like merchandise. You went out and bought Opal while your poor budgie Chrissy was lying in a shoebox wounded without vet care and you thought he was going to die. Instead of using that ride and that money to take him to the vet, you bought another bird. And I don't even know what happened after that. First you said he passed, then you said he went back to normal, then you said he escaped and was killed by a wild bird, and then you said he was hit by a car. What the heck is going on? And now you're asking whether you should continue to use this perch when your bird just got hurt because of it. Take proper care of your birds, or rehome them.

I understand your concern, but it was late and she had to see a vet, I brought her to an emergency vet. Also there are no avian vets in my area, vets that will see birds, but no avian vets.
We are moving out of state next month (just got the news during dinner) hopefully there will be at least one avian vet in the area or at least within the state.

I thought I cleared up the Chrissy things. I don't feel like talking about him, still hurts too much to think about him, but I did say some things on the thread about his escape. It was a different bird I saw get attacked.

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[FlyBirdiesFly]

What about your budgie Lucky?

 

[ParrotLover2001]

Lucky has nothing to do with how I feel about Chrissy.
I believe Lucky is a sign from above. I truly wasn't ready at the time, I'm still not. I killed him, I can't move on when I know that I'm the one who hit him, or least I can't forgive myself for what happened, I can't find a way to move on.
Jordan's accident is also something I blame myself for, if I had pressure checked that perch, if I didn't put the perch in the cage in the first place, she wouldn't have been hurt.

Chrissy's cat attack, I'm also to blame, I should have been more alert and aware of what was happening, I should have double checked to make sure the cat wasn't there, and I shouldn't have got Opal I should have gone to the vet.

The poisoning, my fault, I should have been there to prevent It, I should have put the miracle grow far away and out if reach.
Jordan's accident while being fostered out, that was out of my control, but I shouldn't have fostered her out knowing that she had (and still does have) separation anxiety.

Chrissy's escape, My fault, I should have double checked that door, I should have jumped to conclusions and confuse people (bird attack).

Lucky, a bird too good for my flock, I should have rehomed her before she became too attached to Elvis and Jordan, she now has separation anxiety, and I can't separate her from Elvis and Jordan.

I can continue with my mistakes, but for the sake of everyone who had the time to read this, this'll do for now.

I am sorry for wasting your time.

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[LordTriggs]

A non avian vet managed to sedate, hospitalize and stitch a wound on a tiny bird? Sounds pretty miraculous to me, I didn't know you could stitch a bird that small. I also find it odd that a concrete perch would just poke in the corner of a cage, not being bolted on, I've never seen one without a bolt. I also have to say it must be an odd perch as concrete ones are pretty heavy normally so how it didn't kill Jordan I don't know. Can you take a picture of it to silence people's concerns? We may be using the same name for different things

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt as I simply don't know enough about you, it seems like you are very uneducated on safety with your birds or just making silly mistake after silly mistake. Although leaving one of them outside when one was in the tree because it was too hot for you was down-right cruel. They can't deal with heat like us.

I'd take this as a line in the sand for you. Re-evaluate how you work with them and house them and if anything happens again to them then you need to rehome them for their safety and leave any other pets.

 

[itzjbean]

Lucky has nothing to do with how I feel about Chrissy.
I believe Lucky is a sign from above. I truly wasn't ready at the time, I'm still not. I killed him, I can't move on when I know that I'm the one who hit him, or least I can't forgive myself for what happened, I can't find a way to move on.
Jordan's accident is also something I blame myself for, if I had pressure checked that perch, if I didn't put the perch in the cage in the first place, she wouldn't have been hurt.

Chrissy's cat attack, I'm also to blame, I should have been more alert and aware of what was happening, I should have double checked to make sure the cat wasn't there, and I shouldn't have got Opal I should have gone to the vet.

The poisoning, my fault, I should have been there to prevent It, I should have put the miracle grow far away and out if reach.
Jordan's accident while being fostered out, that was out of my control, but I shouldn't have fostered her out knowing that she had (and still does have) separation anxiety.

Chrissy's escape, My fault, I should have double checked that door, I should have jumped to conclusions and confuse people (bird attack).

Lucky, a bird too good for my flock, I should have rehomed her before she became too attached to Elvis and Jordan, she now has separation anxiety, and I can't separate her from Elvis and Jordan.

I can continue with my mistakes, but for the sake of everyone who had the time to read this, this'll do for now.

I am sorry for wasting your time.

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So wait, who's Lucky? First I've ever heard about Lucky being a part of your flock, why didn't you mention Lucky? Is this bird dead or still alive? You said you killed them....how? I'm getting so confused with all these accidents, poison, sibling issues, cat attack, vehicle accidents happening with your flock. I guess all I can say is....mistakes happen, but after the 5-6th accident, I wonder if you are putting your love of companionship from your flock over their safety.

The signs are there (all these accidents and mistakes) and you seem to be ignoring every single one of them. I know you love your birds, but you seem to not care enough to do the right thing here...which is to rehome them to someone who can provide safe and better care.

 

[ParrotLover2001]

So wait, who's Lucky? First I've ever heard about Lucky being a part of your flock, why didn't you mention Lucky? Is this bird dead or still alive? You said you killed them....how? I'm getting so confused with all these accidents, poison, sibling issues, cat attack, vehicle accidents happening with your flock. I guess all I can say is....mistakes happen, but after the 5-6th accident, I wonder if you are putting your love of companionship from your flock over their safety.

The signs are there (all these accidents and mistakes) and you seem to be ignoring every single one of them. I know you love your birds, but you seem to not care enough to do the right thing here...which is to rehome them to someone who can provide safe and better care.

Lucky is alive,.

I said that I killed HIM not THEM. I killed Chrissy, I was the one who hit him, that is how I know he was hit by a car.

And that could have happened to anyone and their bird. Being hit by a car was something that could very well happen while he was outside.

Cat attack, poison, Chrissy's escape, and Jordan's perch accident. That's only 4 accidents/mistakes.

I don't ignore them, I try to learn from them, improve and prevent the same thing from happening again.

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[ParrotLover2001]

Can you take a picture of it to silence people's concerns? We may be using the same name for different things

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[Terry57]

So wait, who's Lucky? First I've ever heard about Lucky being a part of your flock, why didn't you mention Lucky? Is this bird dead or still alive? You said you killed them....how? I'm getting so confused with all these accidents, poison, sibling issues, cat attack, vehicle accidents happening with your flock. I guess all I can say is....mistakes happen, but after the 5-6th accident, I wonder if you are putting your love of companionship from your flock over their safety.

The signs are there (all these accidents and mistakes) and you seem to be ignoring every single one of them. I know you love your birds, but you seem to not care enough to do the right thing here...which is to rehome them to someone who can provide safe and better care.

Lucky is alive,.

I said that I killed HIM not THEM. I killed Chrissy, I was the one who hit him, that is how I know he was hit by a car.

And that could have happened to anyone and their bird. Being hit by a car was something that could very well happen while he was outside.

Cat attack, poison, Chrissy's escape, and Jordan's perch accident. That's only 4 accidents/mistakes.

I don't ignore them, I try to learn from them, improve and prevent the same thing from happening again.

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I can't believe you just wrote this. Only 4 accidents/mistakes? In my house, a mistake is dropping their food dish, or getting bitten when I ignore body language. I can say that not one mistake has resulted in hitting my birds with a car, or poisoning, or being attacked by a cat or having a perch fall that I knew was unstable.
The fact that you think these are acceptable accidents since there were "only 4" makes me cry for your flock. It also tells me that you are not learning from the mistakes if highly preventable ones keep happening. I truly hope that a lot of what you have said happened is untrue.