Its all fun and games until the line breaks.

[ruffledfeathers]

You know, I never knew there was a 'thread rating'.....I guess I didn't pay attention. I am so often on here so quickly, in short, quick bursts. Oh well!!
This reminds me--unrelated but sort of related--I have almost all 'silly' video clips on my you tube. Many are low quality, and mainly to share with a few friends, but I make them 'public'. I got a thumbs down on a video of my dogs playing after they took a bath. I thought "what kind of (bad word) gives a thumbs down to a wet, playing puppy?" LOL WHATEVER!!!

 

[Featheredsamurai]

See i was just going to buy a rope like that Ashley, but then i was like well the flight line is meant to be sooo safe, so better safe than sorry haha

The flight line is this orange string rope stuff, very thin, but that is all fine, the elastic leash which is connected to that is the thing that broke!

So the harness had the leash, the leash then attached to an elastic rope, then to the orange rope... So it had a double elastic leash!

Rosie is fine with just the harness elastic leash, like when she reaches the end of the line its not a sudden pull back?

I think now that Fargo can fly in circles, and isn't just flying straight to the end then getting pulled back, that just having a safe rope attached to the harness leash would be ok ?

That's so scary it was the lead that broke! Let us know what the company says about that, I've trusted it until now D:

I try very hard to avoid her ever reaching the end of the rope, it puts stress on their body - and wings, feet, and necks can get caught on the rope and snapped. that's why I went with the 100' foot nylon rope rather than the 30' aviator flight line, I found the flight line much too short and the end reached to easily. Rosie has reached the end of the rope 3 times, she fly's straight to the end and is pulled downward.

She was 40' in the air when I took this photo during her first outdoor harness flight. Whenever Rosie reaches the end she doesn't seem to know how to turn and fly off to the side and flutters to the ground very quickly. It's a bit scary and I never want her to reach the end, she has only done so three times.

If you skip to 1:46 of this video it shows the third time she reached the end to show you how she flutters down quickly. I think she just looses all her momentum. I only had 50" of the rope out because of the location.

[ame="http://youtu.be/KyJqFSSaNVo"]Rosie flying lots - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Abigal7]

I just read threads and comment (never knew you could rate them). Anyhow, after figuring it out I rated this thread excellent. So take that to whoever gave a one star rating . I want to thank Tab for sharing this with us and how we can make it safe when we take our birds outdoors. I know I said in the past let the bird pick you. Granted, when I think about it I never lived by that advice since no bird I had picked me from the start. The cockatiel had when I was a kid was just a sweet bird that anyone could handle. I had to work with Clover and the budgie I had as a child to get them tame. Captain Jack never seen me until we meet at the airport. He was fussy at first but then later during the quiet car ride home he made the decision to check me and has liked me sense. The same thing applies with the green cheek conure Paulie (my mom bought me after the budgie pasted away). He gave my dad a couple of hard bites but after awhile decided he liked me and would bob his head up and down when he saw me. I have to wonder if he would have liked my dad and others if they had shown a interest in him. I ended up being the only person that could handle Paulie. It has made things easier that Captain Jack decided to give me a chance. Yes, you can train a bird even older birds (like the adult budgie I had). However, I do like it when the bird also shown interest in me. Maybe, Captain Jack sensed that I liked him? I do not know. I also think if you get a bird from a rescue (especially a large bird) you would probably be on a better start if the bird showed interest in you.

 

[tab_xo]

Wow, thank god you are both safe! I'm so sorry--you must have been scared! Was it the flight line with the aviator harness? I know when I had a pull in my leash on my aviator, they had me send it to them and fixed it free of charge (Gilbert now has the reinforced elastic for the wrist strap on his leash--not the 'little bird' elastic--to make sure he stays safe too.)

Yes it was the flight line for the aviator! It was from the new supplier, and they have sold 10 000 lines previously, so maybe the new ones just have a fault?

Yeah they are sending me a reinforced heavy duty one for Fargo too! Very good customer service!

hahaha i didnt know about the thread ratings either, until mine started getting rates

That is sad about your video, who on earth would thumbs down something like that :20: Someone thumbs downed Fargos video of doing a somersault as well, must of been another one of his biggest fans HAHA :54:

 

[tab_xo]

That's so scary it was the lead that broke! Let us know what the company says about that, I've trusted it until now D:

I try very hard to avoid her ever reaching the end of the rope, it puts stress on their body - and wings, feet, and necks can get caught on the rope and snapped. that's why I went with the 100' foot nylon rope rather than the 30' aviator flight line, I found the flight line much too short and the end reached to easily. Rosie has reached the end of the rope 3 times, she fly's straight to the end and is pulled downward.

She was 40' in the air when I took this photo during her first outdoor harness flight. Whenever Rosie reaches the end she doesn't seem to know how to turn and fly off to the side and flutters to the ground very quickly. It's a bit scary and I never want her to reach the end, she has only done so three times.



If you skip to 1:46 of this video it shows the third time she reached the end to show you how she flutters down quickly. I think she just looses all her momentum. I only had 50" of the rope out because of the location.

Thats what even worries me more, because the aviator harness has that elastic clamp as well, so does that mean the leash COULD break as well, then whatever is attached to the harness would slip off as well.. And now we are all being paranoid haha

Yeah the flight line is very short, and Fargo was just hitting the edge and falling down, but then he learnt to do circles, so haven't had that problem anymore! Instead of getting pulled down suddenly he just circles, then lands.. Of course his lands the first few times were terrible :09: Was more of a crash!

Does Rosie do big circles? Or does she just fly back and forth to you and perches?

Hmmm, see that rope seems like a lot better idea, and alot safer, because theres not as many joints and clips! and of course its even longer so would let them fly easier

How long have you been flying Rosie for with the rope? Obviously its safe! haha
Another thing is, i havnt had Fargo fly to me outside before.. Inside he has perfect recall, and outside we were learning to fly to the perch, which he could from about 15 meters away!
But he wont take treats when we are outside, and i would place him on the perch, but he just wouldnt fly to me, he just sits there :20:

But if mum is holding him, and i ask him to come, he will...

So i am thinking i will have to have someone holding him until he learns to recall to me?
Is that how you taught Rosie

My internet is too slow at the moment to watch the video Will have to watch it tonight when internet speeds up!

 

[tab_xo]

I just read threads and comment (never knew you could rate them). Anyhow, after figuring it out I rated this thread excellent. So take that to whoever gave a one star rating . I want to thank Tab for sharing this with us and how we can make it safe when we take our birds outdoors. I know I said in the pastlet the bird pick you. Granted, when I think about it I never lived by that advice since no bird I had picked me from the start. The cockatiel had when I was a kid was just a sweet bird that anyone could handle. I had to work with Clover and the budgie I had as a child to get them tame. Captain Jack never seen me until we meet at the airport. He was fussy at first but then later during the quiet car ride home he made the decision to check me and has liked me sense. The same thing applies with the green cheek conure Paulie (my mom bought me after the budgie pasted away). He gave my dad a couple of hard bites but after awhile decided he liked me and would bob his head up and down when he saw me. I have to wonder if he would have liked my dad and others if they had shown a interest in him. I ended up being the only person that could handle Paulie. It has made things easier that Captain Jack decided to give me a chance. Yes, you can train a bird even older birds (like the adult budgie I had). However, I do like it when the bird also shown interest in me. Maybe, Captain Jack sensed that I liked him? I do not know. I also think if you get a bird from a rescue (especially a large bird) you would probably be on a better start if the bird showed interest in you.

HAHA Thanks, we will just get everyone on the forum to rate this thread 5 stars :09:

I wonder that about Fargo as well, because no one in my family really wants anything to do with him, so he didnt get the chance to choose someone else to bond with? It was only me who he got stuck with :54:
But then again, he didnt even like the breeder who hand fed him for 7 months, sooooo? hahaha

Thats sweet about Captain Jack!! See he obviously liked you, and was interested you in the beginning! I think birds know if you are a birdy type person, and can sense if you like them or not!
But yes it probably does help when they are babies, where as an adult who you rehome its probably a better choice if they are interested in you, even if its just the slightest amount!

 

[Abigal7]

Are those butt cheeks in that emotioncon Wendy? I am dying here. I can't stop laughing and watching it. OMG. I can't breath!....

Yessery bob....they sure are butt cheeks. I was going to use the emoticon that involves a hand with only one finger sticking straight up, but that would have been against the rules.

I do not understand why how anyone can be jealous or be a hater of the threads about Tab and Fargo. But, I know some people can be like that. I heard of cases where some people like to troll threads That sadly happens a lot on Facebook. Luckily the moderators are able to keep a bunch of hateful stuff being posted.

 

[Abigal7]

You know, I never knew there was a 'thread rating'.....I guess I didn't pay attention. I am so often on here so quickly, in short, quick bursts. Oh well!!
This reminds me--unrelated but sort of related--I have almost all 'silly' video clips on my you tube. Many are low quality, and mainly to share with a few friends, but I make them 'public'. I got a thumbs down on a video of my dogs playing after they took a bath. I thought "what kind of (bad word) gives a thumbs down to a wet, playing puppy?" LOL WHATEVER!!!

Yeah, I do not understand it either. I enjoy watching pet videos on youtube. While most give these videos a thumbs up there is always a small few that give it a thumbs down

 

[Featheredsamurai]

Thats what even worries me more, because the aviator harness has that elastic clamp as well, so does that mean the leash COULD break as well, then whatever is attached to the harness would slip off as well.. And now we are all being paranoid haha

Yeah the flight line is very short, and Fargo was just hitting the edge and falling down, but then he learnt to do circles, so haven't had that problem anymore! Instead of getting pulled down suddenly he just circles, then lands.. Of course his lands the first few times were terrible :09: Was more of a crash!

Does Rosie do big circles? Or does she just fly back and forth to you and perches?

Hmmm, see that rope seems like a lot better idea, and alot safer, because theres not as many joints and clips! and of course its even longer so would let them fly easier

How long have you been flying Rosie for with the rope? Obviously its safe! haha
Another thing is, i havnt had Fargo fly to me outside before.. Inside he has perfect recall, and outside we were learning to fly to the perch, which he could from about 15 meters away!
But he wont take treats when we are outside, and i would place him on the perch, but he just wouldnt fly to me, he just sits there :20:

But if mum is holding him, and i ask him to come, he will...

So i am thinking i will have to have someone holding him until he learns to recall to me?
Is that how you taught Rosie

My internet is too slow at the moment to watch the video Will have to watch it tonight when internet speeds up!

LOL crashing Fargo, I bet it was a weird angle haha

Feeling very paranoid, I'm just imagining having Rosie out flying on her harness and suddenly she is loose, like Fargo Rosie also will only recall if she is on someone. I rarely get her to recall from a stationary object. I would be devastated if anything happened to her.

I think the rope is safer, I tie a loop knot on one end with a lot of extra rope, then tied 8-12 square knots. I tied my end of the rope to a stainless steal heavy duty quick link that screws tightly shut. I then put the quick link through the loop knot(through the lead loop) and pull it all the way through. The only downside of the nylon rope is that it tangles easily, I wrap mine around a unused perch when not in use. But now I'm the idea of using the lead loop to connect the nylon nope seems terrible risky....

I've been taking Rosie out to fly since October 8th, but we don't go nearly as often as you. Usually 1-3 times a month. There are a ton of Peregrine falcons here and new males are released yearly as well as a couple nesting pairs adding to the population(which is great for the species). I've been seeing them a lot and I haven't been flying her as much because of it.

Rosie only does A-B flights, I have my friend hold her then I call her until she finally comes. She's very nervous on her take offs so it takes a lot of encouragement from me to get her to fly. Once she is perfect at recalling from my friend I'm going to bring her T-stand out and try with that. If I try calling her from stationary objects she also just stares at me LOL And Rosie doesn't take treats either, I reward her by getting acting very exited and telling her how good she did.

 

[Abigal7]

I just read threads and comment (never knew you could rate them). Anyhow, after figuring it out I rated this thread excellent. So take that to whoever gave a one star rating . I want to thank Tab for sharing this with us and how we can make it safe when we take our birds outdoors. I know I said in the pastlet the bird pick you. Granted, when I think about it I never lived by that advice since no bird I had picked me from the start. The cockatiel had when I was a kid was just a sweet bird that anyone could handle. I had to work with Clover and the budgie I had as a child to get them tame. Captain Jack never seen me until we meet at the airport. He was fussy at first but then later during the quiet car ride home he made the decision to check me and has liked me sense. The same thing applies with the green cheek conure Paulie (my mom bought me after the budgie pasted away). He gave my dad a couple of hard bites but after awhile decided he liked me and would bob his head up and down when he saw me. I have to wonder if he would have liked my dad and others if they had shown a interest in him. I ended up being the only person that could handle Paulie. It has made things easier that Captain Jack decided to give me a chance. Yes, you can train a bird even older birds (like the adult budgie I had). However, I do like it when the bird also shown interest in me. Maybe, Captain Jack sensed that I liked him? I do not know. I also think if you get a bird from a rescue (especially a large bird) you would probably be on a better start if the bird showed interest in you.

HAHA Thanks, we will just get everyone on the forum to rate this thread 5 stars :09:

I wonder that about Fargo as well, because no one in my family really wants anything to do with him, so he didnt get the chance to choose someone else to bond with? It was only me who he got stuck with :54:
But then again, he didnt even like the breeder who hand fed him for 7 months, sooooo? hahaha

Thats sweet about Captain Jack!! See he obviously liked you, and was interested you in the beginning! I think birds know if you are a birdy type person, and can sense if you like them or not!
But yes it probably does help when they are babies, where as an adult who you rehome its probably a better choice if they are interested in you, even if its just the slightest amount!

Yeah, I do not understand why anyone would give Fargo's videos, threads a low rating. He is a great bird. I will admit I was surprised when you told us how difficult Fargo was in the beginning. Captain Jack is sweet. I am slowly working on training him to do stuff (maybe Fargo can take him under his wing and teach him the ropes to doing tricks hah hah). He does love to talk. Yesterday, I got him to say the word "What?" I told my mother about Fargo and all the tricks he can do. My mom has been supportive of me being a bird person. However, she is nervous about big birds. She knows I think macaws are beautiful birds and how I think they are great. Captain Jack has made my mom think that maybe a large macaw can be a good bird. She told me when she was in town she say a lady with a large green macaw (probably a military or red front macaw). She said she was shocked at how big this bird was. My family never been around very large birds so their first comment was "he is big" when in reality he is not a large bird. I am so glad to have Captain Jack. When I first talked the breeder she only had a Illigers macaw but I decided I best get a Hahns macaw. Luckily the breeder ended up having a Hahn's macaw available at the end of it all.

 

[Shayne]

People rating the thread badly is either someone who is jealous or someone who thinks keeping birds in a cage is cruel. There are alot of people about like that. I've bumped into many in the local pet shop, walking past the bird cages talking loudly about how terrible they think it is.
I'll admit that I'm jealous as my mother made me get rid of my macaw when I moved back home. I may never get another one choose me again. But then again that just makes me admire tab and fargo more.

 

[JerseyWendy]

It's not just THIS thread, Shayne....others have been rated poorly as well. We KNOW who's behind it, that's the funny part. And it's not just Tab's threads either. I'm actually surprised "they" missed my latest thread.

So yes, it's personal. But if "they" think for only a nanosecond that they can sour THIS forum, they better think again.

And since "they" are keeping such close tabs (pun intended) over here....I've got some more of these for them to look at.

 

[Poppetsmum]

I never knew about rating threads either. I'm glad I do now though and I've just rated this one.

 

[Poppetsmum]

And since "they" are keeping such close tabs (pun intended) over here....I've got some more of these for them to look at.

Hahahahaha

 

[goalerjones]

I'm never going to rate a thread, just sayin'. I've had enough feedback to leave on Amazon for purchases to never desire willingly to hafta leave more.