Is this ok or should I intervene or?

[Terry57]

As long as you trust them that's all that matters.

 

[clark_conure]

I trust her and I'm actually impressed she came out of another cage just to break it up. Watch the video again.....she attacks no one but inserts herself in between to stop the fight. No pecking, no open beak......I think she is a being a good mom.

 

[Terry57]

I watched again and still feel the same. That would have made me much more nervous than my 2 budgies beaking it out.

 

[clark_conure]

I watched again and still feel the same. That would have made me much more nervous than my 2 budgies beaking it out.

We have to agree to disagree then because Scuti makes no aggressive movement to either bird other then getting between them. Not one peck, not one open beak threat, not one head bob... she just tries to get in between.


I think this was her being a leader at it's finest. And I'm proud of her.

 

[clark_conure]

but .....my original question.....if this happens ignore or intervene if a Scuti is not around? can they actually hurt each other or not that much?

 

[HeatherG]

I love how Scuti is so politely asking them to cut that out.
Edit read Terry's reply...but don't agree she she is being bad. Not that a quaker can't be bad, but to me this wasn't
I definitely noticed the cute baby gcc chowing on yummy and not getting evolved.

Possibly mate attempt, but female nit quite ready.....beginning is happy beak possibly regurgitate you. But she isn't ready for leg up mount. Or if is another male doesn't want that. Hard fir me to tell sex of lighter one.

My males have never done more than happy beak and yet to feed each other. So I haven't witnessed this behavior

Regurgitation and possible mating attempts are what I saw as well. I was just going to rewatch the video and see who was who of the budgies as I thought the left bird was going for the right bird’s back. Didn’t look like a bad dispute between the budgies, imo.

That’s a nice setup and a beautiful light Quaker. She is much bigger than the budgies, but i hear you saying they’ve been together for years. I hope all is well!!

 

[clark_conure]

Let me intenerate is this normal and ok? or should I be thinking about separating if it happens again? That's the entire point of the post. Is this normal in budgies and will go away or will I see this time after time and need to separate even thought they have been together for years even before even I adopted them.

 

[HeatherG]

I think it’s normal (sexual?) negotiation among budgies. Nobody got hurt. He was interested and tried to turn up the action. She said “knock it off”. He continued and a flock mate was upset by the increased tension and stepped in. I think if someone begins to have injuries, feather loss, be harassed all the time or kept away from food dishes, that’s a problem. That’s not happening yet, right? And I WOULD make sure that the Quaker doesn’t accidentally hurt any of the little guys.

So if either of your budgies, but most likely the girl, starts to get run down or missing feathers or stressed/depressed, I would intervene. Now I would keep an eye on them. It looked a little obnoxious but I am sure I’m sympathizing with the female budgie. Yet, neither is injured.

Do you WANT mating and breeding behavior to be happening? I guess I don’t know if budgies mate outside of breeding condition so am not sure if you should be concerned that they’re possibly getting ready to breed.

Interesting that Laura had written most of what I observed. It makes me more confident in my interpretation of what’s going on.

 

[Laurasea]

Let me intenerate is this normal and ok? or should I be thinking about separating if it happens again? That's the entire point of the post. Is this normal in budgies and will go away or will I see this time after time and need to separate even thought they have been together for years even before even I adopted them.

On the 2 budgies, yes I have heard of male budgies harming or killing females.....tho extremely rare. I think we had one poster share this a few years ago.

I don't have first hand experience of that though so I defer to those have.

In crowded Cage were the female can be trapped in mind would increase that risk. But overall I think is low.

But you see that one point where he grabs her throat and they role off the cage.

They will likely work it out. And in the coming days the female will likely be more receptive to breeding.

So if you don't want babies...

You have improved their care
and health and probably increased their activity level. Making them more likely to breed than maybe the past

 

[clark_conure]

The quaker will not hurt the budgies.....of that I am certain.

I don't know what started the fight I don't know if it was food or sex....that may have colored things that I said it might be. What I assumed.

All I really care about is if the budgies can really hurt one another Bite off a toe for instance. I know the Quaker won't attack them.

If they can't really get hurt by each other that's fine if they can then I need to nip this in the bud.

 

[HeatherG]

Yes, budgies can hurt each other. It’s more likely in crowded or stressed conditions, or if one bird is in poor condition and another is ready to go.

I wouldn’t like watching that sort of fight and I would be sure that she was able to get away and able to access food and water. If this continued or got worse, I’d separate them. Thinking anthropomorphically that nobody deserves to be harassed.

Do you feel your budgies are well-matched physically? Do you have multiple sources of food and water? Do you want to have baby budgies? I thought I noticed a chewable nesting stump in background though maybe I’m wrong.

 

[MayMaroa]

hmmm, it looks like the green bird wanted to go on the bluebird to mate but the bluebird didn't want
that happened to me a couple of times with my two female budgies tofu wanted to go on sky and mate but sky didn't want and they fighted like that.

 

[clark_conure]

update, they seem to have chilled out. Maybe they mated when I wasn't there or whatever happened is over.... If eggs are laid I'll know for sure but they are back to fine again.