Hybrid really a cinnamon green cheek?

[sofiaee]

Someone on craigslist is selling this bird as a hybrid crimson green cheek but it's really just a cinnamon right??

 

[weco]

Yes, it does look like a cinnamon, but what's the big deal.....misrepresentation of items being sold is nothing new...there is the old adage of buyer beware.....

 

[kq_fan]

Ya it looks like a cinnamon. Hmmm I guess he just wanted to make it look better then it is so he put it as a hybrid cas everyone wants something rare! :/

 

[sofiaee]

I don't really see how a hybrid would make it all that much more appealing? My understand is that hybridization of birds can be unhealthy? Maybe I have that wrong.

Anyways I was just wondering what you guys thought. Surprisingly it's being sold cheaper than a lot of others on the site. It is very pretty though!

Thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy for thinking it's a cinnamon haha

 

[Echo]

It seems to me like the person selling the bird is not very knowledgeable, only thinking that a crimson is more expansive than a green cheek so he's expecting to get more money?

 

[Echo]

The baby of a Crimson and Green Cheek would be a Crossbred not a Hybrid as they are sub-species or the same species(Pyrrhura).

 

[legal_eagle]

The baby of a Crimson and Green Cheek would be a Crossbred not a Hybrid as they are sub-species or the same species(Pyrrhura).

I'm not sure if that's true, because Pyrrhura is not a species, but rather a genus. GCCs (Pyrrhura molinae) and Crimson Bellied conures (Pyrrhura perlata) are different species.

 

[Echo]

I stand corrected. Same GENERA (Pyrrhura), different species. However I believe that being the same genus would mean that it would be a crossbreed. As opposed to a hybrid which would be from different genus (Aratinga). Am I wrong to believe this? I know some members are genius when it comes to this and jump in.

But either way, it's a really cute bird!

 

[MonicaMc]

I don't know what a crimson bellied x green cheek cinnamon hybrid would look like, but I know how to get that cross. I've seen a photo of a CBC x GCC before, but it was a normal hybrid and looked more GCC than CBC... actually, if you didn't know any better, he'd look like a pure green cheek! (that is, assuming that his species is correct)


Looks like a cinnamon green cheek conure to me, but I'd ask for more details myself and see if they have any photos of the parents.


A hybrid is a hybrid, even if it's of the same species, different subspecies. "Crosbred" is more or less the same as hybrid. In fact, the definition of crossbreeding is to produce via hybridization! LOL

 

[Echo]

This is what Graham Taylor wrote about it:
The Eclectus Parrot - Graham Taylor (Australia)

Ps: I don't want to seem off subject, the article is referring to Eclectus but still about hybrid/crossbreed.

 

[sofiaee]

Huh, interesting stuff!

Well this person has not replied to my email but I am actually going to visit someone on Friday to look at their Cinnamon. Apparently they used to have two green cheeks but one was killed by their dog! D:

 

[Echo]

sofiaee- I love your profile pic by the way, very sweet (PS: i'm a girl....not coming onto you LOL).

Sad about that little GCC. Unfortunately, it happens so often

 

[sofiaee]

sofiaee- I love your profile pic by the way, very sweet (PS: i'm a girl....not coming onto you LOL).

Sad about that little GCC. Unfortunately, it happens so often

Aw thanks! Ollie was being really sweet that day.

Yeah, I just really want to she what her/his temperament is like before I commit to getting it. It's about 2 years old already they said.

 

[MonicaMc]

This is what Graham Taylor wrote about it:
The Eclectus Parrot - Graham Taylor (Australia)

Ps: I don't want to seem off subject, the article is referring to Eclectus but still about hybrid/crossbreed.

Interesting article..... hmmm.... lets see if I can pull up some examples...

Yellow naped amazons and double yellow headed amazons are considered to be of the same species. By your definition, they are just "crossbreds", but by my definition, they are hybrids if someone were to breed the two together. (although other people do consider them to be separate species)

The citron crested cockatoo is a subspecies of the lesser sulphur crested cockatoo, and if the two were bred, I'd consider them hybrids.


Another name for hybrids between subspecies is "intraspecific hybrids". Hybrids between the same genera but different species would be "interspecific hybrids". Hybrids between different genera would be "intergeneric hybrids".

That's how I understand it. There's an article below although not written as well as it could be.

Hybrid



sofiaee, sad to hear about the GCC that was killed by the dog! I hope the visit goes well, though!