Help with gender ID

[Talven]

Trying to gender ID my budgies as best as possible so I can separate boys from girls. 10 birds in total some may be too young yet. Some I'm pretty certain of others not so sure. Could use the eyes of those with more experience. Birds are not tame so these are the best pics I could manage at this time.

1)This is male

2)This is male

3)This is female

4)This is female

5)Possibly male?

6)Possibly female?

7)Possibly male?

8)Possibly male?

9)No idea

10)No idea

I was manhandling the birds anyway as I was having to move them to bigger cage and wanted to give them a quick look over.

 

[bug_n_flock]

1-2: male
3-5: female
6,7,9: probably male
10&8: I think female.



The younger ones are harder to tell on, and cere color will likely change a bit as these birds age. I am less confident on #'s 8 and 9, but I still think 8 is probably female and 9 probably male.

 

[Talven]

And here I was feeling fairly sure that 5 was male and 6 was female :15: At least I got the first 4 right

7 and 8 are both albino? White birds with red eyes with just the faintest hint of yellow. No way I was going to work out the gender of those without help. I'll just have to keep an eye on the young ones and see what changes in the next couple of weeks.

 

[bug_n_flock]

With the inos and some other mutations with reduced blue "pigment"(brown), you expect the female cere to be the typical tan/brown/white/light blue, and the boys will have a pink to purple cere that won't turn to rich deep blue.



Light yellow? How pretty. Is it mostly on the faces and wings? Perhaps these are albino yellow face birds. This is often called "creamino" but is a combination of blue based, albino, and one of the yellow face types. I might try to breed a bird that color, I think they are quite pretty.
And the xonfusion with number 5: females not in breeding condition can have a light blue tint to their cere, but the area right around the nostril is much lighter, basically white. This is a *very* common mistake made when sexing budgies.

 

[Talven]

Pretty much a total novice at gender ID with budgies so I expect to make the common mistakes.

The yellow on birds 7 and 8 is darkest on the forehead and wings. Under natural light they have an very pale hint to their feathers but interior light or in pictures they seem to be white. I thought maybe creamino but wasn't sure if budgies had a creamino mutation.