Griffin imposes himself on his neighbor...

[RavensGryf]

Some 'people' are just rude... Inviting themselves over, helping themselves to others' belongings, eating their food... Know anyone like that? Raven does!!

Raven: "Hey! What are YOU doing eating MY veggies?!!
Griffin: (mouth full) "I like yours better"... Munch..munch..munch


Raven: "Uh... I'll just eat my pellets over here... Don't mind me..."
Griffin: munch..munch...munch


Raven: "Ok... I'll just wait out here while you play with my toys"
Griffin: *ignoring*


LOL!!! I couldn't believe it when I turned around and saw this! :52: I'm glad Raven isn't territorial in the least, and I'm hoping it stays that way as he gets older.

 

[Kiwibird]

Griffin is awfully cute, I bet Raven can't be territorial towards such a cute baby

 

[RavensGryf]

I'm shocked he's so tolerant inside his cage, when outside his cage he sometimes picks on Griffin and starts arguments and beaks at him.

I really hope the dynamic doesn't change for the worse when they reach maturity.

 

[SilverSage]

How sweet! I was realy worried when Flick kept insisting on invading my Pionus' cage, but they tolerated her, even seemed to want her to come. Eventually they were just sharing a cage, even though I highly discourage anyone who asks from allowing different species to share a cage. Now the Pionus are broody though, waiting for their cage to be built, and Flick lives in the bird room with the other GCCs and IRNs.

 

[Bundiibird]

Aww. So glad they get along. I think Raven is just so proud of his little brother that he will let him do anything.

 

[thekarens]

Wow, Griffin really has decided Raven's place is to be. He's really taken to him.

 

[Allee]

The look on Raven's face in that first photo is adorable, "Look at this kid, can you believe it?" So glad they are getting along so well. It looks like the beginning of a great friendship.

 

[Birdman666]

I'm shocked he's so tolerant inside his cage, when outside his cage he sometimes picks on Griffin and starts arguments and beaks at him.

I really hope the dynamic doesn't change for the worse when they reach maturity.

Mine are like that too... the foraging concept around here, beyond what did she drop today, seems to be, let's see what's left in her bowl...

My guess is it will stay this way. Every once in awhile a bird will say "that's mine." But it's infrequent, and not serious. They aren't violent by nature. And one will back down, and just go find something else...

 

[Terry57]

The pictures and captions are adorable! I am so glad that Raven does not seem to mind Pisces jumped on Talli's cage yesterday and chased him right off So far, they are not nearly as impressed with each other as Griffin and Raven are.

 

[RavensGryf]

The pictures and captions are adorable! I am so glad that Raven does not seem to mind Pisces jumped on Talli's cage yesterday and chased him right off So far, they are not nearly as impressed with each other as Griffin and Raven are.

Mine are 2 completely different species too. I guess they are all individual. I think they key is introducing while still young. Talli (and Pisces) being adults may have something to do with it. Robin was never used to birds when he was young, and he hates everyone. Typical Poi though.

Mine are like that too... the foraging concept around here, beyond what did she drop today, seems to be, let's see what's left in her bowl...

My guess is it will stay this way. Every once in awhile a bird will say "that's mine." But it's infrequent, and not serious. They aren't violent by nature. And one will back down, and just go find something else...

So in your experience, do you think this means it's a good sign that if they bond now, they won't start hating each other after maturity?

How about during hormonal seasons? Wouldn't they be territorial then? I wonder if I have to keep Griffin off Raven's cage then?

Another thing, when Raven tells Griffin to knock it off, Griffin won't heed the warning, and so it escalates. I have to intervene so Griffin doesn't end up getting hurt. Will he EVENTUALLY learn to take a hint and back down and just go away? Is he just clueless because he's so young?

 

[thekarens]

Maybe he's just stubborn ;-)

 

[witchbaby]

LOL. It's always more exciting when it belongs to someone else!

 

[BoomBoom]

They're both so cute! I wonder what goes on in their head when they visit each other's cages?

 

[RavensGryf]

They're both so cute! I wonder what goes on in their head when they visit each other's cages?

Thanks It's actually only baby Griffin who will go to Raven's cage. Raven will always stay on his own cage lol. Griffin probably thinks "This is ALL mine!! I'm gonna go over here, and there, and eat that... etc!" He really has the nerve haha.

 

[Sterling1113]

They're both so cute! I wonder what goes on in their head when they visit each other's cages?

Thanks It's actually only baby Griffin who will go to Raven's cage. Raven will always stay on his own cage lol. Griffin probably thinks "This is ALL mine!! I'm gonna go over here, and there, and eat that... etc!" He really has the nerve haha.

It's okay.. The conures do that too. I have that extra cage with stuff in it and they can't stand it! Lol. They want everything. Kiwi will go after pascal if he has an almond

 

[Peepers]

That is so funny. Boomer will go in Chiquitas cage and Chiquita will go in Boomers cage.

 

[Birdman666]

So in your experience, do you think this means it's a good sign that if they bond now, they won't start hating each other after maturity?

How about during hormonal seasons? Wouldn't they be territorial then? I wonder if I have to keep Griffin off Raven's cage then?

Another thing, when Raven tells Griffin to knock it off, Griffin won't heed the warning, and so it escalates. I have to intervene so Griffin doesn't end up getting hurt. Will he EVENTUALLY learn to take a hint and back down and just go away? Is he just clueless because he's so young?

Yeah. I personally don't think this is going away any time soon. Rachel always raised her birds in same sex pairs, so each had a buddy bird to keep the other one company. It reduced the work load on her, and gave them someone they could get 24/7 attention from...

The birds themselves usually work it out. Keep an eye on it. (Hey, my lilac crowned amazon occasionally grabs tail feathers of a bird that's about 4 times her size, where she's the one intruding on the territory... so totally out of line, Yet SHE LIVES!)

Territorialism develops when one has an EXCLUSIVE territory. When other birds are allowed to come and go as they please, then territorial behaviors are much less likely to arise, in my opinion...

(They may still end up building and defending a nest somewhere, but that's different...)

 

[Kiwibird]

Will he EVENTUALLY learn to take a hint and back down and just go away? Is he just clueless because he's so young?

After 40 years (as a bonded M/F pair no less!) Barney and Lucy still raid each others cages and pick fights. Lucy is totally the dominant one, but Barney will definitely get himself into his fair share of mischief stealing Lucy's food. You could NEVER separate those 2 birds, but Barney certainly annoys Lucy at times. I think it's purposeful, kind of a " I'm going to do this because I know your not going to **really** come hurt me" kind of thing They'll nip and make a big fuss, but have never hurt each other.

Bonded birds (even if they are different species) will still interact in a natural way (which does include squabbles). Parrots in a nature don't always play nice, but usually don't seriously injure each other, and especially don't injure a perceived mate. Eventually, they'll work it out amongst themselves who's dominant and how their little partnership is going to work. I would still supervise them for now, but you'll eventually see a little dynamic form between them and be able to trust them without constant supervision

 

[Frumpydumple]

That cage looks great. The captions were fitting too.

Raven's face on the last photo is really funny.

 

[Peepers]

Mine don't pick fights they just investigate, lol