What's something you've seen your bird do that you can't get over?

[Laurasea]

Grass parakeets and cockatiels from Australia are the only ones I know of that don't use their feet.
Will be interested to hear others
Love birds do, but not as often

 

[StormyPica]

Grass parakeets and cockatiels from Australia are the only ones I know of that don't use their feet.
Will be interested to hear others
Love birds do, but not as often

Budgies also don't use their feet to hold things!

 

[Laurasea]

Budgies also don't use their feet to hold things!

Hi Stormy, they grouped in the grass seed parakeet family. At least that's how I've thought of them?
Maybe that's an old term? I'm not the best at nomenclature.

Neophema Parakeets — Australia's Feathered Beauties - Organization of Professional Aviculturists

© Anne-Marie Harter Neophemas are some of the World’s most perfect birds. They are the size of a budgerigar, with pleasant-sounding voices and few vices. They come in a rainbow of brilliant colors, and their versatility in the wild makes them adaptable aviary birds. Also known as Australian...

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[HeatherG]

Hi Stormy, they grouped in the grass seed parakeet family. At least that's how I've thought of them?
Maybe that's an old term? I'm not the best at nomenclature.

Neophema Parakeets — Australia's Feathered Beauties - Organization of Professional Aviculturists

© Anne-Marie Harter Neophemas are some of the World’s most perfect birds. They are the size of a budgerigar, with pleasant-sounding voices and few vices. They come in a rainbow of brilliant colors, and their versatility in the wild makes them adaptable aviary birds. Also known as Australian...

www.proaviculture.com

Budgies are grass parakeets.

 

[Rozalka]

Budgies are grass parakeets.

nope. they are different types of parrots

 

[Rozalka]

Grass parakeets and cockatiels from Australia are the only ones I know of that don't use their feet.
Will be interested to hear others
Love birds do, but not as often

from what I remember red winged parrots and plum headed parakeets don't use their legs - or at least in my observation

 

[Rozalka]

Hi Stormy, they grouped in the grass seed parakeet family. At least that's how I've thought of them?
Maybe that's an old term? I'm not the best at nomenclature.

Neophema Parakeets — Australia's Feathered Beauties - Organization of Professional Aviculturists

© Anne-Marie Harter Neophemas are some of the World’s most perfect birds. They are the size of a budgerigar, with pleasant-sounding voices and few vices. They come in a rainbow of brilliant colors, and their versatility in the wild makes them adaptable aviary birds. Also known as Australian...

www.proaviculture.com

no, budgies have never been as grass parrots. It's a name for parakeets of genus Neophema. Also, it is used as a synonym of the red rumped parrots, but more common meaning is Neophema genus

 

[HeatherG]

nope. they are different types of parrots

I think the question comes down to, are grass parakeets the Neophema genus only or does the name grass parakeet include other small long tailed mainly grass-seed eating parakeets?

I recall in the 90s reading a discussion of Australian grass eating parakeets and finches which seemed to lump the small mainly grass eating keets from arid regions together as grass parakeets. But it looks to me like current usage of “grass parakeet” is indeed for Neophema genus alone.

(Added this whole previous poster was also composing their post.)

 

[Rozalka]

I think the question comes down to, are grass parakeets the Neophema genus only or does the name grass parakeet include other small long tailed mainly grass-seed eating parakeets?

I recall in the 90s reading a discussion of Australian grass eating parakeets and finches which seemed to lump the small mainly grass eating keets from arid regions together as grass parakeets. But it looks to me like current usage of “grass parakeet” is indeed for Neophema genus alone.

the term "grass parrots" is usually used only for Neophema - however you can buy a book about them and there's also Psephotus genus included (I mean the old classification, because the book is so old - in the current classification there are 4 genera included: Neophema, Neopsephotus, Psephotus and um... Psephella? I don't remind how it was called, but nevermind)
But budgies? I've never seen them as grass parrots - they are just budgies

 

[HeatherG]

I think the question comes down to, are grass parakeets the Neophema genus only or does the name grass parakeet include other small long tailed mainly grass-seed eating parakeets?

I recall in the 90s reading a discussion of Australian grass eating parakeets and finches which seemed to lump the small mainly grass eating keets from arid regions together as grass parakeets. But it looks to me like current usage of “grass parakeet” is indeed for Neophema genus alone.

(Added this whole previous poster was also composing their post.)

Worldbirds.com, all things nature.org and the spruce pets both have great explanations of different types of parakeets (under “grass parakeet classification “) and what is meant by ‘grass parakeet.’ New world encyclopedia states
“Melopsittacus undulatus is also known as budgieand warbling grass-parakeet, and perquito comun in Spanish, among other common names.”
but I think this is an archaic use of the term “grass parakeet “.
(Wasnt meaning to disrespect you, Rosalia, I just wanted to understand where my error came from and how the classification worked.)

 

[Rozalka]

With the archaic names it may be possible - I know "official" and common English names, but I don't really know about the archaic ones, which weren't based on the classification. I've heard about strange names such as "swift lorikeet" for the swift parrot despite they aren't lorikeets. Probably such mistakes made in the common names come from similar behavior/look etc. Swift parrots aren't lorikeets but they have similar diet. The same with budgies - they aren't grass parrots, but they have the same diet.

Now everything is clear, maybe let's come back to the thread main subject
Zenek scratching his head using his feather

 

[Laurasea]

no, budgies have never been as grass parrots. It's a name for parakeets of genus Neophema. Also, it is used as a synonym of the red rumped parrots, but more common meaning is Neophema genus

Yeah, they aren't in neophema. But budgies have been called grass parakeets

no, budgies have never been as grass parrots. It's a name for parakeets of genus Neophema. Also, it is used as a synonym of the red rumped parrots, but more common meaning is Neophema genus

I see, did you edit Wikipedia? As grass parrotkeets was one of the common names used were listed as last time I looked .
I agree it can be confusing , and can be an older term.
They are a grass seed eating parakeets
" Other, less common names for the bird include canary parakeet, warbling canary parrot, grass parakeet, warbling grass parakeet (John Gould’s preferred name for them), "

Parakeet Names | Introduction To Parakeets | Parakeets | Guide | Omlet US

www.omlet.us

I know this is a topic close to your heart Rozalka! but names change over time , and common names can be different.
I've read several articles, thst call them that because of habit and behavior.

 

[Laurasea]

With the archaic names it may be possible - I know "official" and common English names, but I don't really know about the archaic ones, which weren't based on the classification. I've heard about strange names such as "swift lorikeet" for the swift parrot despite they aren't lorikeets. Probably such mistakes made in the common names come from similar behavior/look etc. Swift parrots aren't lorikeets but they have similar diet. The same with budgies - they aren't grass parrots, but they have the same diet.

Now everything is clear, maybe let's come back to the thread main subject
Zenek scratching his head using his feather

Ha, archaic, lol not so old as that my freind.

Really grass parakeet is general term not a species term like Neophema.

 

[Laurasea]

from what I remember red winged parrots and plum headed parakeets don't use their legs - or at least in my observation

I'm not familiar with these, thanks I will have to learn about them.
Edit: Google search shows several images of plum headed parakeets holding food in foot

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Edit : afraid the red wing does use foot to hold food as well

Red-winged Parrot photo image 10 of 16 by Ian Montgomery at birdway.com.au

www.birdway.com.au

I do wonder if there are other species???
Its very interesting about feet use. I thought their would be a good article on this topic but I never found one!!

 

[Rozalka]

I see, did you edit Wikipedia?

Nope, it wasn't me. But I remember there had been used much more names in the past. Probably there were no references to them so somebody deleted them (if we talk about Budgerigar article)

 

[Laurasea]

ROZALKA, are all Neophema from Australia?
Maybe this non use of foot to hold food in parrot is only some species found in Australia? ( ok we are getting off topic, but its fascinating)

 

[Rozalka]

ROZALKA, are all Neophema from Australia?
Maybe this non use of foot to hold food in parrot is only some species found in Australia?

yep, all.
Maybe my memory is wrong, but I'm pretty sure that plum headed parakeet don't use its legs neither... or at least it was just one bird which I was keeping on my arm giving food - I don't remind he was using his foot. And this species comes from Asia.
But so far most species not using their food comes from Australia and are small or medium

 

[HeatherG]

Nope, it wasn't me. But I remember there had been used much more names in the past. Probably there were no references to them so somebody deleted them (if we talk about Budgerigar article)

(Wasn’t meaning to disrespect you, Rosalia, I just wanted to understand where my error came from and how the classification worked.).

 

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