What variety / mutation is my parakeet?

[Cassrock80]

This is my parakeet Bobby. I've had him for a couple months and I believe he's still pretty young.
I've fallen in love with his light blue color and light grey striping. But I can't seem to find any examples of this coloration online and it has me curious about his variety/mutation or whatever you might call it. Is this rare? Or am I missing something? Any info would be great! I wanna learn about my little friend as much as I can.

 

[LaManuka]

No idea what mutation he is, but i know GORGEOUS when i see it! Welcome to the flock to you and lovely Bobby, we're glad to have you aboard!

 

[Cassrock80]

No idea what mutation he is, but i know GORGEOUS when i see it! Welcome to the flock to you and lovely Bobby, we're glad to have you aboard!

Thanks!

 

[Cassrock80]

Thanks!

No idea what mutation he is, but i know GORGEOUS when i see it! Welcome to the flock to you and lovely Bobby, we're glad to have you aboard!

Since you don't recognize it could it be rare? Or am I just not looking hard enough?

 

[LaManuka]

Since you don't recognize it could it be rare? Or am I just not looking hard enough?

Oh no, I don't recognise it because I am really lousy at picking mutations We do have a number of pretty clued up budgie people on the forums though, MUCH smarter than me, so hopefully one of them will spot your pic and be able to help you

 

[Rozalka]

There are few mutations which have light colors, but I stuck in recognizing 'em... but I've just found a good website and after looking at known by me mutations my suggestion is blue dilute : https://www.budgie-bubble.co.uk/dilute-mutation

 

[Cassrock80]

There are few mutations which have light colors, but I stuck in recognizing 'em... but I've just found a good website and after looking at known by me mutations my suggestion is blue dilute : https://www.budgie-bubble.co.uk/dilute-mutation

You make a good point! Now that I've looked into it a bit, this website https://www.budgie-info.com/budgie-varieties-with-grey-markings.html also mentions the pinkish shade of his feet, and how that's because dilutes can be bread with cinnamon to create different colorations. So that explains why I had a hard time figuring it out!
You nailed it. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Very interesting stuff!

 

[Zoruace]

Looks like a dilute mutation to me
The cheeks are very pale and the wings are a pale grey

 

[Cassrock80]

Looks like a dilute mutation to me
The cheeks are very pale and the wings are a pale grey

Makes sense. Guess I didn't really look at that option until now. Thanks!

 

[StormyPica]

Yup, I would say blue greywing. Greywing is a dilute mutation where the whole body (including the wings) is diluted by up to 50%, which would explain his light coloring.

He could be a cinnamon greywing, but that is very unlikely, as most breeders of greywings HATE this mutation. He would also have to have both cinnamonwing parents to be a visual cinnamon, or he could have one cinnamonwing parent and be split for cinnamon.

He's not a clearwing, his markings are too light (in clearwing, only the wings are diluted), and I don't think he is a dilute, as he seems too dark.

All in all, he's probably just a blue greywing!

 

[Cassrock80]

Yup, I would say blue greywing. Greywing is a dilute mutation where the whole body (including the wings) is diluted by up to 50%, which would explain his light coloring.

He could be a cinnamon greywing, but that is very unlikely, as most breeders of greywings HATE this mutation. He would also have to have both cinnamonwing parents to be a visual cinnamon, or he could have one cinnamonwing parent and be split for cinnamon.

All in all, he's probably just a blue greywing!

Thanks! That's great info. I'm curious about the cinnamon part tho. Because that leaves his pink feet without explanation.
Not to doubt you tho. You obviously have a lot more knowledge of the subject. I'm just curious.

 

[StormyPica]

He may be a dilute split for cinnamon, that's something I haven't thought of!

Check if he has white down feathers, this is a sign of a cinnamon. Also, check his moulted wing feathers to see if you can spot a very light brown instead of black.

Male cinnamonwings, however, usually have a much darker brown that females, which I can confirm from seeing many male cinnamonwings and owning one myself (Pepper).

Anyhow, those are my two best guesses, I like these links to budgie colors, but my favorite color chart of all time is now on an insecure site, so this is the best I've got!

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[Cassrock80]

He may be a dilute split for cinnamon, that's something I haven't thought of!

Check if he has white down feathers, this is a sign of a cinnamon. Also, check his moulted wing feathers to see if you can spot a very light brown instead of black.

Male cinnamonwings, however, usually have a much darker brown that females, which I can confirm from seeing many male cinnamonwings and owning one myself (Pepper).

Anyhow, those are my two best guesses, I like these links to budgie colors, but my favorite color chart of all time is now on an insecure site, so this is the best I've got!

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Is down feathers are definitely White. However his wings are just white and gray. No Brown to be seen. Lol is that strange or confusing?

 

[StormyPica]

Is down feathers are definitely White. However his wings are just white and gray. No Brown to be seen. Lol is that strange or confusing?

He could be split for cinnamon, meaning he is a recessive cinnamon. He will not show any brown colors, but still have light feet, down, and cere.

 

[Cassrock80]

He could be split for cinnamon, meaning he is a recessive cinnamon. He will not show any brown colors, but still have light feet, down, and cere.

Sounds pretty accurate to me. I'm gonna stick with that. Thanks! Definitely the best answer so far!
Thanks a ton!

BTW, if you're up for it, I found another unique color, and got him a just over a month ago, and I've been curious about his breed as well. If you'd care to check it out, I can attach a few pictures of him to this thread as well!

 

[StormyPica]

Sounds pretty accurate to me. I'm gonna stick with that. Thanks! Definitely the best answer so far!
Thanks a ton!

BTW, if you're up for it, I found another unique color, and got him a just over a month ago, and I've been curious about his breed as well. If you'd care to check it out, I can attach a few pictures of him to this thread as well!

Sure! I love decoding budgie mutations!

 

[Cassrock80]

Sure! I love decoding budgie mutations!

Alright then, let me introduce my man pesto:
He's also super light in color. Although it's hard to see in pictures, his face and part of his back are yellow. But mostly the face. His back is very muted. Part of his lower stomach and tail are light blue. And the pattern on his wings and tail are bold, but the pattern on his head almost don't exist.
What do you think?

 

[StormyPica]

I'd say sky-blue recessive pied visual cinnamon. You can obviously see he has light brown wings, and he is a recessive pied. Welcome to the club of having recessive pied cinnamons! I have a violet recessive pied cinnamon (Pepper)!

 

[Cassrock80]

I'd say sky-blue recessive pied visual cinnamon. You can obviously see he has light brown wings, and he is a recessive pied. Welcome to the club of having recessive pied cinnamons! I have a violet recessive pied cinnamon (Pepper)!

Interesting! I could've sworn he was green because of the yellow face. But that's cool. Shows how like I know! Thanks again. It's nice to understand my birds a little better.
And that's cool. Pepper must be gorgeous. Kinda funny tho, pepper and pesto.

 

[StormyPica]

Interesting! I could've sworn he was green because of the yellow face. But that's cool. Shows how like I know! Thanks again. It's nice to understand my birds a little better.
And that's cool. Pepper must be gorgeous. Kinda funny tho, pepper and pesto.

Blue for sure, he could be a yellowface, a very common mutation where blue budgies have yellow faces and wings instead of white.