What kind of macaw is this?

[MomtoPercy]

What about Reddit? Post a bunch of photos of the deplorable conditions and include the phone number, and address, as well as yiur loc SPCA's email. You may get the world involved, sending letters and calling them to change the situation.

I'm already on it. Posted a scathing report online. Pity they are so backwards that they don't even have a website otherwise I wouldve linked that in too.
I only took photos of the macaws this morning - didn't think to take of all the cages. Will do that soon! Good idea!

That's a disgusting cage D: it looks more like a prison! Please remember that buying one of the birds will be rewarding the store

True.don't want to give them that kind of money.
ALL the cages are like that - it is very distressing

Here is another pic I took - you can clearly see how narrow the cage is. Sorry for the poor quality, I accidentally had the flash on.

 

[noblemacaw]

Birdman66 can you please tell me how specific the Illiger's macaw diet is. In 2002 when I got Diego I purchased him from a well known Illiger's breeder in South California. I stayed with her for three days (I flew out to California to get Diego) and was able to be part of the birds care. I learned how she fed them and experienced husbandry on a larger scale of a breeder. Her Illiger's were very healthy and I basically copied her diet for my Diego.

Diego lived to be almost 10 years old. He was flighted and was flown every day. In June 2011 he collapsed in his cage and I rushed him to the clinic. After heroic measures to save him Diego died from the stroke.

Due to what happened to Diego and my Noble macaw's health problems relating to heart disease I have since done extensive studies with parrot diet of different species that relates to what is causing heart disease in parrots. I have not ran into any special way to feed Illiger's macaw other than what I have learned is best for mini macaws. One thing I learned from my experience is you cannot feed a mini macaw the same diet you would feed a large macaw. Mini macaws are NOT large macaws and their diet should resemble more of a conure diet. Be mindful of carbs and fat. Feed mostly fresh veggies and include several types of HOT peppers (the hotter the better as this lowers cholesterol.) Limit fruits to only as treats. Make sure the parrot is getting enough exercise. Once the parrot is older and clinic visits are showing blood work indicating heart disease switch to a low fat pellet, cut out most carbs, increase exercise more, and I had to add milk thistle for liver health and flax seed oil and a sprinkle of the seeds themselves.

I have been though the ringer with my two mini macaw health issues. I lost my beloved Illiger's macaw to heart disease and eventually lost my Noble macaw with a heart attack he suffered overnight while we ere sleeping.

I have done extensive research with how I was feeding my parrots to how they SHOULD of been fed and not once have I ever learned that Illiger's macaw had a specialized diet other than the one I have described above.

With my RFM Valentino I copy his breeders diet because she has his grandparents. Her oldest RFM died at 82 years old. I would think she has the RFM diet down so I have relied on her information in which to feed Valentino the best way.

I am sorry if I hijacked this thread but I really need to know what the specific diet of an Illiger's macaw is. I really need this information for my piece of mind.

 

[Birdman666]

What VERY LITTLE I know about Illger's diet's I learned from talking to Howard Voren years ago. I don't know if you know Howard, but he is a colorful character to say the least, and he is the one who told me that they had TONS of problems keeping Illger's macaws alive because they had such specialized dietary requirements...

I never really went into what they were. I was never really interested in keeping Mini Macs at the time. (Just the big uns!) He kinda gloats about being "the guy" who figured it out. But I'll ask...

 

[noblemacaw]

I read an article from Howard the colorful character Voren just reciently about the Red Bellied Macaws. This article was very interesting of how he figured out the "secret" of keeping them alive. Here is a link to it.

The Mysterious Macaw (The Unique Red-Bellied Macaws) | Voren's Aviaries Inc

I think you might have the Illiger's confused with the Red Belly. They both have that yellow tinge on their naked face part and kind of look alike. For me the Illiger's has a lot more maroon and have the red "v" on belly and red back feathers.

 

[Birdman666]

Okay, maybe I was confusing the two... my mistake.

And actually, Howard is "THE GUY" on a lot of things. He's an old timer...

 

[noblemacaw]

I am glad I was able to get that information to you Birdman. To bring the thread back on topic I would like to share my experience with my bonded Illiger's included:

Diego was bonded only to me and favored me above all other people. Even above my other mini macaw. One would think the two mini's would of bonded somewhat but both birds were very jealous of each other and only tolerated the others presence. Even with the extensive socialization I did with Diego he ended up being a one person parrot. After all was said and done it was told to me I favored Diego out of all my boys.

Diego was very intelligent and picked up performing tricks very well. I excelled with training both Diego and Mihijo because these two species took to positive reinforcement well. Diego spoke more clearly and had a larger vocabulary than my Noble macaw Mihijo but my Eclectus passed Diego in speech capability.

Diego LOVED food and was very food driven. This is probably why it was so easy to train him. LOL. Diego was never a picky eater and would sample anything offered to him. Both my mini macaws had sweet beaks which means they preferred the sweet fruits over the tart ones like Kiwi and cranberries. My eclectus Joaquin favored the tart fruits.

Diego was never aggressive to me even during the hormone season. He tolerated Lupe and would step up for her only if she told him "Let's go see Momma". He knew "Momma" was me and when told this he always hurried to his perch by the door so he could step up for Lupe. When I went out of the country and my sister stayed in my home to take care of my flock she never took him out of his cage. She was afraid of his seemly large black beak and Diego let her know he didn't want to be messed with by threatening to bite or scrambling back to his boing indicating he didn't want to come out. He did alright with his seemly cage bound time because he lived in a Kings 406 European stainless steel cage. This cage my RFM now lives in. Diego's cage provided him enough room to entertain himself without becoming cage bound. I will always suggest to provide the Illiger's or "Blue Winged Macaw" as they are now called a cage big enough for a large macaw. Non bird people made fun of me how large Diego's cage was but they never understood Diego used every square inch of that huge massive cage.

MomtoPercy. If you move forward to aquire one of the little females in that horrible situation I would not blame you a bit for it. Personally for me it would warm my heart BUT I understand that it would be rewarding the store by buying a parrot from there but in the same breath it would be saving one or both of those parrots. From your pictures they do not have the healthy feathering a Illiger's should have. Look at my pictures of Diego and compare. If you need I will post more pictures of Diego for you to see. Let me know if you have any questions about keeping Illiger or blue winged macaws. Also understand these Illiger's in that pet store are probably not very tame and will need work. However once you can cuddle wrestle with an Illiger's you know you have their heart. Also once use to you food is a wonderful motivator for them. Find out favorite food and use this to your advantage.

I applaud your plan to help them with media involvement. I pray that the media can help you with the plight of these parrots and animals in that awful pet store.

 

[Mirren]

Birdman66 can you please tell me how specific the Illiger's macaw diet is. In 2002 when I got Diego I purchased him from a well known Illiger's breeder in South California. I stayed with her for three days (I flew out to California to get Diego) and was able to be part of the birds care. I learned how she fed them and experienced husbandry on a larger scale of a breeder. Her Illiger's were very healthy and I basically copied her diet for my Diego.

Diego lived to be almost 10 years old. He was flighted and was flown every day. In June 2011 he collapsed in his cage and I rushed him to the clinic. After heroic measures to save him Diego died from the stroke.

Due to what happened to Diego and my Noble macaw's health problems relating to heart disease I have since done extensive studies with parrot diet of different species that relates to what is causing heart disease in parrots. I have not ran into any special way to feed Illiger's macaw other than what I have learned is best for mini macaws. One thing I learned from my experience is you cannot feed a mini macaw the same diet you would feed a large macaw. Mini macaws are NOT large macaws and their diet should resemble more of a conure diet. Be mindful of carbs and fat. Feed mostly fresh veggies and include several types of HOT peppers (the hotter the better as this lowers cholesterol.) Limit fruits to only as treats. Make sure the parrot is getting enough exercise. Once the parrot is older and clinic visits are showing blood work indicating heart disease switch to a low fat pellet, cut out most carbs, increase exercise more, and I had to add milk thistle for liver health and flax seed oil and a sprinkle of the seeds themselves.

I have been though the ringer with my two mini macaw health issues. I lost my beloved Illiger's macaw to heart disease and eventually lost my Noble macaw with a heart attack he suffered overnight while we ere sleeping.

I have done extensive research with how I was feeding my parrots to how they SHOULD of been fed and not once have I ever learned that Illiger's macaw had a specialized diet other than the one I have described above.

With my RFM Valentino I copy his breeders diet because she has his grandparents. Her oldest RFM died at 82 years old. I would think she has the RFM diet down so I have relied on her information in which to feed Valentino the best way.

I am sorry if I hijacked this thread but I really need to know what the specific diet of an Illiger's macaw is. I really need this information for my piece of mind.

Thanks for that information. I did a check before we decided to keep the baby Hahn I'm hand raising, to make sure the diet was right (even though we have the parents and they are well fed, I wanted to be doubly sure). I read the same thing thing that refuted here, that they need a high fat diet. I'm not a fan of seed, but my husband gives it to the breeders to supplement their diet (mostly veggies anyway).

The young Hahn won't touch it. A/he'll inhale pellets and veggies and some apple, but isn't even interested in seed. I have it in her cage, just in case, but I think I'll take it out now. All that ever happens is that it gets stepped in and spread all over the cage and table under the cage and on the carpet...