WARNING: Teflon, Non-stick Coatings, PFOA's and other coatings deadly to your Parrots

[texsize]

I just looked up band aids as a protection against biting and found alarming PFOA content in a lot of popular brands. The list is extensive. https://techthelead.com/all-the-ban...st-of-brands-found-to-have-forever-chemicals/

Bingo hates me when I wear a even though I am wearing it because of him (usually).
When he notices one on me when I am holding him it’s both funny and scary at the same time.

He rears back and away from it but can’t fly away and I have to try to get rid of him without getting bitten (again).

 

[GaleriaGila]

Wow.

Wow.

Protecting our birds needs eternal vigilance. Thanks, y'all.

 

[GivemeSeedsorgivemeFlesh]

Now I have a legitimate reason to wear panda bandages.

 

[wrench13]

Like I keep saying, these type coatings are sneaking into products all the time!!

 

[GivemeSeedsorgivemeFlesh]

Ollie has a shredder toy that he just started loving and I feel bad but I just cut half of it off because it was foam type material and who knows what's in that...Now he only has half a toy because the other one looked like it could have lead.

 

[texsize]

Found this picture in a recent email.

 

[texsize]

I post this for information only nat political.
I had no idea this stuff was used in lithium ion batteries.
For me it’s not so much about cars but I have two “solar generators “ that use the same batteries.

PFAS in batteries: The toxic Trojan of the electric vehicles revolution

We are driving the change to safer chemicals

chemsec.org

 

[bug_n_flock]

Yikes. Old thread but definitely worth popping back up and getting more attention. I knew about non stick in the kitchen and anything that heats up, but the bandaids and etc was new info for me. Sheeeeeeeeeesh. Unsettling stuff

 

[bug_n_flock]

I was just told the stuff is in receipt paper too. Yikes, be careful out there

 

[wrench13]

You mean thermal paper, like register tape? True! I have to get regular plain paper for Saltys paper dispensing toy, he loves t so much!

 

[bug_n_flock]

Idk exactly what kind, but I sent someone a message with a heads up about something I learned on this thread and they said that about the receipt paper and that apparently it soaks thru your skin especially well if you just used hand sanitizer?

I hadn't even thought about those paper dispensing toys! Gosh, even being extremely diligent it's easy to have bad luck and a heartbreaking disaster

 

[GivemeSeedsorgivemeFlesh]

Yes receipt paper is really bad for you. I think sometimes they just feel like being creative to see how toxic they can make normal things.

 

[Talaya]

Ive heard there is a Steel Ninja airfryer in the US that doesn’t contain teflon.. but when i contacted the UK branch they said all the airfyers here contain teflon and are not bird safe. I don’t know about a foodie grill. I guess it’s also down to your individual countries models too.

 

[texsize]

Interesting documentary on Teflon and PFOE’s
Some gross pictures of cows.

 

[allenlee888]

Yes, PTFE coated non stick pans are extremely dangerous for parrots, as toxic gases released at high temperatures can cause acute poisoning or even death. This is mainly due to the possible residual harmful substances such as perfluorooctanoic acid ammonium (PFOA) during its production process, as well as the decomposition products of the coating itself at high temperatures.
Why is Teflon deadly to parrots? ‌
The respiratory system of parrots is extremely sensitive, and the PTFE coating releases polytetrafluoroethylene smoke when burned dry or at high temperatures (usually exceeding 260 ° C). This gas is highly toxic to birds and can cause pulmonary bleeding, pulmonary edema, and rapid suffocation, resulting in a very high mortality rate. Even a small amount of inhalation can be fatal in a short period of time.

Immediately stop using: All non stick cookware, electric irons, and other kitchen utensils coated with Teflon should be avoided from use at home.
Choose alternatives: switch to safer cookware such as iron pots, stainless steel pots, or ceramic coated pots.
Pay attention to other risk sources: Ensure that parrots stay away from the kitchen cooking area and avoid contact with any items that may release harmful smoke.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

This is absolutely fascinating! These people who know chemistry like this are so smart! I took tons of chemistry in college (all five years all semesters) and it was hard and not as interesting as this.

 

[rheashard2]

I remember when I got my first CAG. His breeder told me to get rid of all nonstick cookware and untensils. I felt lucky because I didn't use the stuff routinely. The only nonstick I had then and now is my bread maker. I took chemistry and promptly forgot it when finals were over. Until then I didn't realize how common nonstick was.

 

[Shoegoo]

I shared this info with some family members over the Thanksgiving holiday. There question was what about my others pets? I Didn't know. Anyone know about dogs, cats or other four legged friends.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Birds' respiratory systems are exceptionally sensitive to toxic gasses. That's why the coal miners would bring a canary down into the mine. If the bird suddenly died, it was time to get out of there.

I don't know for certain, but I don't believe any mammals are as sensitive as birds are to gaseous toxins like overheated Teflon. I've heard about many cases of pet birds suddenly dying from Teflon fumes but I've never heard of other pets perishing.

I know that fish are very sensitive to gasses dissolved in their water because toxic gasses often displace dissolved oxygen that fish need for underwater respiration causing them to "suffocate", and I wouldn't be surprised if dissolved Teflon fumes could kill them.

Regarding furry friends, you could ask a vet, but why not try to ensure their safety, too, and simply not use nonstick cookware at all? Just rub a bit of olive oil (or other favorite cooking fat) on a stainless steel pan before use.

 

[Jcas]

DonnaBudgie is correct. Birds have a different respiratory system than mammals which allows them to take in more oxygen and distribute it to their bloodstream and tissues faster and more effectively. Unfortunately, this also means that any inhaled toxins are also rapidly absorbed into their bodies. Our dogs and cats have lungs like us so they won’t drop dead from breathing in PFOAs etc. but they ( and us humans) are still taking in very small amounts of these chemicals which can build up over time and cause health problems. If at all possible, avoiding Teflon etc is healthier for everyone in the long term