That makes me sad

[Shayne]

My mate told me last week that his bosses wife had a macaw that she didn't want anymore. I'm assuming it was a bit aggressive or something. I'm not too sure what the problem was.
So I told my mate I was looking to get one so he asked his boss about it.
But I was too late. Not because someone else had taken it. But they put the poor thing down.
That upset me alot to hear that. It got put down because it was unwanted but it wasn't as I would have saved it from a pointless death.
All it probably needed was a bit of love. I'm sure this was just a case of an old lady who's fed up with her noisy bird and always ignores it.
It also makes me wonder how much effort they made to find it a home considering how many adverts I see of people asking for free birds.

 

[Merlee]

That is very sad. I am surprised the vet didn't make the offer to find it a home for them.

 

[LoveMyParrots]

That is so sad!

But when I hear problems like this, I get really angry! People put their parrots down for behavior issues!? That's is just so cruel! Because they bite?! The noise!? The mess!? Don't get a bird in the first place! And if it happens, train it!

Putting a parrot down for the noise is like putting a dog down for wagging its tail. It is normal and natural for a parrot to make noise! What would that lady think if she wasn't allow to talk?

That lady must know nothing about parrot if she puts a macaw down for screaming!

And I'm also surprised that the vet didn't say anything too!

 

[plax]

Your mate's boss and his wife are examples of people who DON'T deserve to have pets! This is so tragic and just sickening

 

[Alisana]

That is so sad!

But when I hear problems like this, I get really angry! People put their parrots down for behavior issues!? That's is just so cruel! Because they bite?! The noise!? The mess!? Don't get a bird in the first place! And if it happens, train it!

Putting a parrot down for the noise to like putting a dog down for wagging its tail. It is normal and natural for a parrot to make noise! What would that lady think if she wasn't allow to talk?

That lady must know nothing about parrot if she puts a macaw down for screaming!

And I'm also surprised that the vet didn't say anything too!

I think the vet would have said something, but sometimes - please, please forgive me for saying this, but it's better that the vet puts the animal down.

Hear me out - I got very angry when an actual VET told me this (I was arguing on another forum about it) until they explained why; there was a dog that a person didn't want anymore and refused to pay the vet fees for stitches, the man requested to put the animal down. The vet advised against it, stating that the injury wasn't life threatening and that with 2 weeks of rest it would be fine, and the man took his dog and told him not to worry about it. Before the vet could contact the local animal authorities, it turns out that the owner had shot his dog. I don't know if it was quick or if the animal was left to bleed to death, (the vet didn't give any specific details - but it weighed heavily on his conscious, so I don't think it was good...) but this is why some vets will put down animals when requested - to save the animals from a long, and drawn out death.

It still makes me very angry whenever I hear about people like that - those people shouldn't be allowed animals. Until governments start regulating pet ownership though, and while people are grossly misinformed about their pets, the sad cycle continues.

 

[plax]

That is so sad!

But when I hear problems like this, I get really angry! People put their parrots down for behavior issues!? That's is just so cruel! Because they bite?! The noise!? The mess!? Don't get a bird in the first place! And if it happens, train it!

Putting a parrot down for the noise to like putting a dog down for wagging its tail. It is normal and natural for a parrot to make noise! What would that lady think if she wasn't allow to talk?

That lady must know nothing about parrot if she puts a macaw down for screaming!

And I'm also surprised that the vet didn't say anything too!

I think the vet would have said something, but sometimes - please, please forgive me for saying this, but it's better that the vet puts the animal down.

Hear me out - I got very angry when an actual VET told me this (I was arguing on another forum about it) until they explained why; there was a dog that a person didn't want anymore and refused to pay the vet fees for stitches, the man requested to put the animal down. The vet advised against it, stating that the injury wasn't life threatening and that with 2 weeks of rest it would be fine, and the man took his dog and told him not to worry about it. Before the vet could contact the local animal authorities, it turns out that the owner had shot his dog. I don't know if it was quick or if the animal was left to bleed to death, (the vet didn't give any specific details - but it weighed heavily on his conscious, so I don't think it was good...) but this is why some vets will put down animals when requested - to save the animals from a long, and drawn out death.

It still makes me very angry whenever I hear about people like that - those people shouldn't be allowed animals. Until governments start regulating pet ownership though, and while people are grossly misinformed about their pets, the sad cycle continues.

That's indeed tragic . Where I live slaughtering a dog as described would have been considered animal abuse and the shooter would have been criminally liable. And if the vet were truly concerned for the poor dog's best interest, he/she could have offered to stitch the wound free of charge. I only see blame here

 

[bkparrot]

It is unfortunate as to what happened to the poor bird. The other side is when people try to rehome their pets, they have to face a very difficult time with the decision and harsh remarks that others have for them. Every situation should be looked at on its own and without knowing the full story its hard to judge. I agree, they could have tried placement or adoption but they didnt and an innocent bird lost his life. Hopefully that bird has now found peace on the other side of the rainbow.

 

[Cami]

I cant even speak...sob

 

[Alisana]

That is so sad!

But when I hear problems like this, I get really angry! People put their parrots down for behavior issues!? That's is just so cruel! Because they bite?! The noise!? The mess!? Don't get a bird in the first place! And if it happens, train it!

Putting a parrot down for the noise to like putting a dog down for wagging its tail. It is normal and natural for a parrot to make noise! What would that lady think if she wasn't allow to talk?

That lady must know nothing about parrot if she puts a macaw down for screaming!

And I'm also surprised that the vet didn't say anything too!

I think the vet would have said something, but sometimes - please, please forgive me for saying this, but it's better that the vet puts the animal down.

Hear me out - I got very angry when an actual VET told me this (I was arguing on another forum about it) until they explained why; there was a dog that a person didn't want anymore and refused to pay the vet fees for stitches, the man requested to put the animal down. The vet advised against it, stating that the injury wasn't life threatening and that with 2 weeks of rest it would be fine, and the man took his dog and told him not to worry about it. Before the vet could contact the local animal authorities, it turns out that the owner had shot his dog. I don't know if it was quick or if the animal was left to bleed to death, (the vet didn't give any specific details - but it weighed heavily on his conscious, so I don't think it was good...) but this is why some vets will put down animals when requested - to save the animals from a long, and drawn out death.

It still makes me very angry whenever I hear about people like that - those people shouldn't be allowed animals. Until governments start regulating pet ownership though, and while people are grossly misinformed about their pets, the sad cycle continues.

That's indeed tragic . Where I live slaughtering a dog as described would have been considered animal abuse and the shooter would have been criminally liable. And if the vet were truly concerned for the poor dog's best interest, he/she could have offered to stitch the wound free of charge. I only see blame here

From what I gather, the cost of stitches vs euthanasia wasn't a huge difference between the two. Hence why the vet was baffled and didn't want to go through euthanasia when the guy requested it. The man's logic was that the dog injured itself, therefore the dog was to blame, and that two weeks without a herder (one of the sheep/farm dog varieties), wasn't worth it in the owner's opinion.

I really wish in the OPs situation though that the owners had consulted with others about rehoming. It's so, so sad and tragic when a bird has to be put down because of a human's mistake/s.

 

[plax]

The other side is when people try to rehome their pets, they have to face a very difficult time with the decision and harsh remarks that others have for them. Every situation should be looked at on its own and without knowing the full story its hard to judge.

Yes, full details are quite important. But the way this has been described makes it appear that the dog simply wasn't very important to its owner. What if it would have been a human child who needed the stitches? Why should we as humans afford ourselves protections which we're often unwilling to extend to our beloved pets? That's a rhetorical statement, btw

(Edit: Obviously I'm speaking here about Alisana's example of the man shooting the dog, and not about the poor bird)

 

[Alisana]

The other side is when people try to rehome their pets, they have to face a very difficult time with the decision and harsh remarks that others have for them. Every situation should be looked at on its own and without knowing the full story its hard to judge.

Yes, full details are quite important. But the way this has been described makes it appear that the dog simply wasn't very important to its owner. What if it would have been a human child who needed the stitches? Why should we as humans afford ourselves protections which we're often unwilling to extend to our beloved pets? That's a rhetorical statement, btw

(Edit: Obviously I'm speaking here about Alisana's example of the man shooting the dog, and not about the poor bird)

I actually considered making the comment about poor pet owners not being allowed children, but backspaced it. People get sensitive when you make a suggestion like that. To me, it doesn't matter if it's an animal or a human. If you can't look after the life of an animal - what proves to me that you can look after the life of a human? A life is a life - it carries the same weight, no matter what form it comes in.

I will try and do whatever I can for the best interests of my animals - to me, they aren't "possessions" or "show trophies" that other people perceive them to be, but they are companions, friends and family. I know that any single time I have ever been depressed/down, my animals have been willing to sit there with me while I sit there and have a little sniffle, regardless of what time of night it is - try that with a person at 4am in the morning and unless it's something really bad, you're going to get a grouchy response

 

[Alisana]

Sorry Shayne for derailing there.

*offers hugs* I am hoping that the macaw is now in a better place...

 

[plax]

The other side is when people try to rehome their pets, they have to face a very difficult time with the decision and harsh remarks that others have for them. Every situation should be looked at on its own and without knowing the full story its hard to judge.

Yes, full details are quite important. But the way this has been described makes it appear that the dog simply wasn't very important to its owner. What if it would have been a human child who needed the stitches? Why should we as humans afford ourselves protections which we're often unwilling to extend to our beloved pets? That's a rhetorical statement, btw

(Edit: Obviously I'm speaking here about Alisana's example of the man shooting the dog, and not about the poor bird)

I actually considered making the comment about poor pet owners not being allowed children, but backspaced it. People get sensitive when you make a suggestion like that. To me, it doesn't matter if it's an animal or a human. If you can't look after the life of an animal - what proves to me that you can look after the life of a human? A life is a life - it carries the same weight, no matter what form it comes in.

I will try and do whatever I can for the best interests of my animals - to me, they aren't "possessions" or "show trophies" that other people perceive them to be, but they are companions, friends and family. I know that any single time I have ever been depressed/down, my animals have been willing to sit there with me while I sit there and have a little sniffle, regardless of what time of night it is - try that with a person at 4am in the morning and unless it's something really bad, you're going to get a grouchy response

Very well said, Alisana!

 

[plax]

The other side is when people try to rehome their pets, they have to face a very difficult time with the decision and harsh remarks that others have for them.

There's an important factor which I meant to address in my previous response. That is, in my opinion there can be absolutely no excuse for euthanizing a pet merely to save oneself from undergoing criticism for a re-homing of the animal. There are those of us who would far more harshly criticize such an individual for the decision to euthanize. When someone cannot seem to grasp insurmountable circumstances experienced by another, it's the former who's to blame (as I see it).

 

[SandyBee]

Wow, sad just sad.

I am surprised that the vet agreed though. There is a recent situation here an owner with 2 birds a cockatoo and a ringneck, one flew into the others cage and the ringneck had their beak ripped off as well as multiple bite wounds and a maimed foot. The owners brought the bird to the vet but didn't want to pay so asked for it to be put down. Vet actually refused and had them sign over the bird to the sanctuary which she is the main vet for. The good news for this is the little ringneck has survived all her surgeries is learning how to eat and will be going to a foster home soon.

There is no reason for any pet to be put down if not health related.
There are always people looking for birds and rescues will take birds in as well.

 

[wwendy104]

So sad really that a vet would agree to put down a perfectly heathly animal that hasn't hurt anyone just because they didn't want it. I found that some people just don't care about animals its like they are at their disposal. I love my birds they are more then just a bird to me, my life revolves around them as much as my kids. I worry about what to feed them, how much interaction they get daily, and they even have a bed time for them.

This is just another example of animal cruelty.

 

[cthulhus_minion]

It is pretty dumb to put down a bird over noise.

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[cthulhus_minion]

It is sad but atleast it didn't suffer.

 

[NWQuakers]

Wow, sad just sad.

I am surprised that the vet agreed though. There is a recent situation here an owner with 2 birds a cockatoo and a ringneck, one flew into the others cage and the ringneck had their beak ripped off as well as multiple bite wounds and a maimed foot. The owners brought the bird to the vet but didn't want to pay so asked for it to be put down. Vet actually refused and had them sign over the bird to the sanctuary which she is the main vet for. The good news for this is the little ringneck has survived all her surgeries is learning how to eat and will be going to a foster home soon.

There is no reason for any pet to be put down if not health related.
There are always people looking for birds and rescues will take birds in as well.

It's good that those people knew when they were in over their heads. And equally good what the vet did.

With the kind of injuries to that poor birdy, I bet the owners felt rehab and expense were overwhelming. It's never easy to face those kinds of decisions. We came up against it dealing with our older Quaker. One thing that really helped was a compassionate vet. He recommended logical treatment in the circumstances, didn't push or guilt us into doing more than was helpful.

And while we know vets can't just write off bills for everyone with a sad story, we were completely floored and grateful that our vet didn't charge us for Marks last week of care.

If we ever get to a point like the folks with the injured bird, I'd be so happy to know people could step in and take over.

But the people who gave up the macaw....that's just sad. Maybe there were underlying health problems that made the vet go along with euthanasia....

 

[SandyBee]

I hope so

I know in the case of the ringneck the bills came to over $8000.00 and she will need special care for the rest of her life. The rescue/sanctuary started a fund to help pay for the bills and to save for any other birds in need. Thre is too many sad stories and many birds come in surrendered due to medical issues.