Tavel crates/bags

[Ebm36]

Hello, I've recently rescued 2 amazon parrots, I want to to get them checked over by the vets, to make sure all is well as ive only had them for a week.

I've been looking at the pak o bag tavel bags for my amazons, as I would also like it to travel with them too.

My concern is, is that they all look very small, I would prefer a rucksack as we do alot of walking.

I'm looking for recommendations, I was hoping for them to go in together (they are bonded) if so which size would you recommend or would it be better to buy 2 separately?

 

[rheashard2]

Congratulation on your rescue. Decide on what you want in a carrier. Carry weight was my main consideration and starting point. So two medium size birds in one carrier wouldn't work for me due to wtg. That and need for room in case both decide to flap wings at same time.

 

[DonnaBudgie]

Thank you for giving these beautiful birds a new home and keeping them together! What are their names? How old are they?

 

[Ebm36]

Thank you for giving these beautiful birds a new home and keeping them together! What are their names? How old are they?

Puffy on the left is 3 years old, although I do suspect she might be older,
Bongo on the right is 4 years old.

 

[Ebm36]

Congratulation on your rescue. Decide on what you want in a carrier. Carry weight was my main consideration and starting point. So two medium size birds in one carrier wouldn't work for me due to wtg. That and need for room in case both decide to flap wings at same time.

I think buying 2 separately will be better for them for space, never took into consideration the weight of the carrier, so I will definitely bare this in mind too, thankyou!

 

[DonnaBudgie]

If you're just going to use the carrier to go to the vet you could put both in a hard sided small dog carrier. Do you have a partner so both of you could take them out for more fun outings (walks, hikes)? If so, two backpack carriers would be good. How do you think they would feel about being in separate carriers for walks? I don't even think they make backpack carriers large enough for two Amazons. The weight is less of a problem. It's surprising how much weight a person can safely carry backpack style. Think backpack leaf blowers- they weigh about 22 lbs each- and student book bags can weigh 40lbs when loaded with textbooks. An Amazon only weighs about one lb.

 

[rheashard2]

Keep us informed about your beauties.

 

[Ebm36]

If you're just going to use the carrier to go to the vet you could put both in a hard sided small dog carrier. Do you have a partner so both of you could take them out for more fun outings (walks, hikes)? If so, two backpack carriers would be good. How do you think they would feel about being in separate carriers for walks? I don't even think they make backpack carriers large enough for two Amazons. The weight is less of a problem. It's surprising how much weight a person can safely carry backpack style. Think backpack leaf blowers- they weigh about 22 lbs each- and student book bags can weigh 40lbs when loaded with textbooks. An Amazon only weighs about one lb.

I do not have a partner to help me carry them, and my son is only 7 and will not want to carry them for very long, perhaps one on my back and one on my front may work, particularly for walking and hiking, i was planning on a trip in the near future with my son and the thought of not being able to bring them along makes me quite sad, I'm really not too sure how they will be if they are separated into 2 different carriers. That was also my concern that they just wouldn't be big enough for them both to fit with adequate room to move.

 

[rheashard2]

Getting them used to separate carriers for short term is a training commitment. You can start now. Take one bird for a walk around room giving encouragement. They can see each other. Repeat with other. The frequency will depend upon them and you. Gradually increase distance and time apart. Give lots of encouragement. This will help decrease separation stress with vet visits for labs etc. A suggestion; start making a thrift store, goodwill etc as a stop. Look for folding strollers made for twins. So one birdie carrier or two you can transport them, and a few miscellaneous items easily. Yes, I have used one in past.

 

[Ebm36]

If you're just going to use the carrier to go to the vet you could put both in a hard sided small dog carrier. Do you have a partner so both of you could take them out for more fun outings (walks, hikes)? If so, two backpack carriers would be good. How do you think they would feel about being in separate carriers for walks? I don't even think they make backpack carriers large enough for two Amazons. The weight is less of a problem. It's surprising how much weight a person can safely carry backpack style. Think backpack leaf blowers- they weigh about 22 lbs each- and student book bags can weigh 40lbs when loaded with textbooks. An Amazon only weighs about one lb.

I do not have a partner to help me carry them, and my son is only 7 and will not want to carry them for very long, perhaps one on my back and one on my front may work, particularly for walking and hiking, i was planning on a trip in the near future with my son and the thought of not being able to bring them along makes me quite sad, I'm really not too sure how they will be if they are separated into 2 different carriers. But im sure we can probably work on thiThat was also my concern that they just wouldn't be big enough for them both to fit with adequate room to move.

Getting them used to separate carriers for short term is a training commitment. You can start now. Take one bird for a walk around room giving encouragement. They can see each other. Repeat with other. The frequency will depend upon them and you. Gradually increase distance and time apart. Give lots of encouragement. This will help decrease separation stress with vet visits for labs etc. A suggestion; start making a thrift store, goodwill etc as a stop. Look for folding strollers made for twins. So one birdie carrier or two you can transport them, and a few miscellaneous items easily. Yes, I have used one in past.

This is great advice thankyou! I have ordered 2 so I will start this training as soon as they arrive.
I recon it's going to take quite a bit of work, especially with puffy, I believe she's hormonal at the moment aswell, she often tries to bite me if I get too close, although it's gentle, more of a warning, I haven't had them long so I'm sure they are still getting used to surroundings

 

[rheashard2]

Read the current posts about hormonal avains! Lots of advice there.

 

[SailBoat]

In your words, you state you have two Amazons under 5 years. I am going to guess that you received no additional paperwork much above maybe a receipt, about them! Amazons in this age group require documentations regarding hatch dates, the Species of each parent, where they where hatch (Name of Breeder), Medical records and DNA Sex. For near seven years All Amazons documents are required.

The selling should have known, and to a degree, you should have known. But, here we are. I strongly recommend that you begin developing a document trail for your Amazons. Your upcoming Avian Vet visit, is a great place to start. Go back to where you purchase the Amazons and collect as much information they have and any information prior to their getting these two. See above for basic required information.

One of the greatest errors made regarding carriers is the owner only going-out and directly to the Avian Vet and back home. Very quickly the Amazons will figure this out and refuse to load into the carriers. Our Amazon can tell within three turns if we are going the the Avian Vet, the cabin or an adventure.

You have 'two' very different Amazon Species a you are likely unsure of their DNA Sex, with great luck we are coming out of this seasons Hormonal Season and with all the moving about they are not likely to react. Our Amazon loves to travel in the SUV and he demands to be able to see where he is going.

I agree with the others that both Amazons in the same transport carrier is just not a good idea.
I am unsure of their age or how long they have been together. So much is unknown.

Read with a deep understanding the two Thread at the top of the Amazon Forum. As they contain fundamental information is living with Amazons!

 

[texsize]

I have a bonded pair of amazon parrots.
They are on the small side for amazons but they do both fit in my pak o bird carrier.
I have found taking them together is a better plan than only taking one.
Also because one is easier to handle than the other placing the ez bird in the carrier first makes putting the more reluctant traveler in a piece of cake.

You already have something ordered but I was going to suggest looking at Bird Tricks Carrier.
There’s is modeled after the pak o bird but solves some of its problems.

Thanks for rescuing them.

 

[Pickle's Mom]

Piccolo has a Pak o Bird. It is like a backpack so it makes it very easy to carry and even have your hands free. He is very content with it when we are out. I usually put apple in one bowl for hydration instead of water that can spill, and snacks in the other. I know they make carriers with dividers in them for two birds too. Congratulations on the new family members!

 

[kme3388]

I use this carrier for my parrot that has a strong enough beak to bend bars on a dog crate. This would break if dropped but will withstand the strong beaks.

I use this carrier (the large one) for my smaller parrots who don’t chew on their carrier, and it would take quite a bit of time for them to ruin it if they did try.

I use this carrier for my parrot that tore apart the soft sided carrier, but he doesn’t have the capability of bending the bars.

There are all sorts of different carriers. Once you know your parrots you’ll know what works best for them. It just takes some time getting to know new parrots. A lot of things can be trial, and error. I hope something in here helps.

 

[Ebm36]

In your words, you state you have two Amazons under 5 years. I am going to guess that you received no additional paperwork much above maybe a receipt, about them! Amazons in this age group require documentations regarding hatch dates, the Species of each parent, where they where hatch (Name of Breeder), Medical records and DNA Sex. For near seven years All Amazons documents are required.

The selling should have known, and to a degree, you should have known. But, here we are. I strongly recommend that you begin developing a document trail for your Amazons. Your upcoming Avian Vet visit, is a great place to start. Go back to where you purchase the Amazons and collect as much information they have and any information prior to their getting these two. See above for basic required information.

One of the greatest errors made regarding carriers is the owner only going-out and directly to the Avian Vet and back home. Very quickly the Amazons will figure this out and refuse to load into the carriers. Our Amazon can tell within three turns if we are going the the Avian Vet, the cabin or an adventure.

You have 'two' very different Amazon Species a you are likely unsure of their DNA Sex, with great luck we are coming out of this seasons Hormonal Season and with all the moving about they are not likely to react. Our Amazon loves to travel in the SUV and he demands to be able to see where he is going.

I agree with the others that both Amazons in the same transport carrier is just not a good idea.
I am unsure of their age or how long they have been together. So much is unknown.

Read with a deep understanding the two Thread at the top of the Amazon Forum. As they contain fundamental information is living with Amazons!

You are right I have not recieved any paper work or documents for them, nor did I think it ask for any, these birds were locked in their cage 24/7 with 2 perches and one toy on a seed based diet, I saw 2 birds that were desperately unhappy and believe that I could give them a better life. Which is why they are now booked in for their Vet appointment, which ill start building up their documents, so thankyou for that information. I just want them to be happy as possible.

As far as carriers go, this wasn't intended for just avian vet visit, I have also stated in previous posts that we do alot of walking and travelling, I would like them to come along with me. But yes you are also right 1 carrier is a very bad idea which is why I have brought 2 carriers.

I was told they have been together for about a year puffy is a girl age 3.5 although I think she is older. And bongo is 4. I have been doing so much research, even before I had got them, and will continue to do so. I do not know who their Breeder is as they were rescues and had already had 3 different homes before me, and for as long as I live, I will be their last home.

I will continue to read, and understand the depth of detail they need to be properly cared for, and I intend to do this still.

Thankyou

 

[Ebm36]

I have a bonded pair of amazon parrots.
They are on the small side for amazons but they do both fit in my pak o bird carrier.
I have found taking them together is a better plan than only taking one.
Also because one is easier to handle than the other placing the ez bird in the carrier first makes putting the more reluctant traveler in a piece of cake.

You already have something ordered but I was going to suggest looking at Bird Tricks Carrier.
There’s is modeled after the pak o bird but solves some of its problems.

Thanks for rescuing them.

I actually ordered 2 bird tricks carriers, so thankyou for the recommendation, I needed something more quickly for they appointment on Friday and the pak o bag said it would take up to 3 weeks to arrive, although I will be investing in one of those in the future if it's needed

 

[Ebm36]

You are right I have not recieved any paper work or documents for them, nor did I think it ask for any, these birds were locked in their cage 24/7 with 2 perches and one toy on a seed based diet, I saw 2 birds that were desperately unhappy and believe that I could give them a better life. Which is why they are now booked in for their Vet appointment, which ill start building up their documents, so thankyou for that information. I just want them to be happy as possible.

As far as carriers go, this wasn't intended for just avian vet visit, I have also stated in previous posts that we do alot of walking and travelling, I would like them to come along with me. But yes you are also right 1 carrier is a very bad idea which is why I have brought 2 carriers.

I was told they have been together for about a year puffy is a girl age 3.5 although I think she is older. And bongo is 4. I have been doing so much research, even before I had got them, and will continue to do so. I do not know who their Breeder is as they were rescues and had already had 3 different homes before me, and for as long as I live, I will be their last home.

I will continue to read, and understand the depth of detail they need to be properly cared for, and I intend to do this still.

Thankyou

This was the cage that they were in before, which is horrifyingly too small even for one amazon in my opinion, which the first thing I done was buy them a new spacious one that they both have space in, I do understand the concern that you have, I will definitely be following that paper trail thankyou

 

[DonnaBudgie]

That black cage is too small for a budgie! Thank you again for giving them a forever home!