Shine threw it out through nose

[Mohitgaur088]

So I tried my best to let medicine reach her crop but she was not stable today. It was a dose of nutrolin B, and she sneezed even if we had kept her at place for a few moments after giving dose. And most probably it's the syrup coming out of her nose, that's the first time it's like that! What caused it?

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[noodles123]

Well, in humans, sinuses (nose, mouth etc) are all connected. I am guessing that she either a) inhaled the meds (they have 2 tubes at the back of throat) or b) there may be a blockage of some sort. I am not a vet...just my best guess.

 

[Laurasea]

I'm lost in this thread, sorry with so many sick ones right now.. what's going on? If the medicine accidentally went in her air way, or was just in front if her air way then she could sneeze it out.. I hope your bird will be ok, sorry you have a sick one. Keep track of her weight. Is the medicine something you can sneak in food, that can be safer.

 

[charmedbyekkie]

Purely anecdotal, Cairo tried to grab too many treats and also run for a toy at the same time. He did the same thing - he coughed/sneezed a treat out of his nose. Is it possible the feeding timing was off - either too much at one time or she breathed at the wrong time?

 

[Mohitgaur088]

Purely anecdotal, Cairo tried to grab too many treats and also run for a toy at the same time. He did the same thing - he coughed/sneezed a treat out of his nose. Is it possible the feeding timing was off - either too much at one time or she breathed at the wrong time?

We usually give her medicine around 7 and it was 8 yesterday, moreover she got very scared of cloth she's wrapped in! What should I do to avoid something like this again?

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[charmedbyekkie]

Purely anecdotal, Cairo tried to grab too many treats and also run for a toy at the same time. He did the same thing - he coughed/sneezed a treat out of his nose. Is it possible the feeding timing was off - either too much at one time or she breathed at the wrong time?

We usually give her medicine around 7 and it was 8 yesterday, moreover she got very scared of cloth she's wrapped in! What should I do to avoid something like this again?

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Oh! I didn't mean that sort of timing - sorry, bad communication on my part. I meant, perhaps you might have fed her too quickly or, if she's panicking, then she might have accidentally inhaled instead of swallowed (just like a human). You could try slowing down a little, so she has more time to adjust and swallow each part.

 

[Mohitgaur088]

Sorry for not getting your point. I'll try to be more gentle and slow next time. Her dose is just a drop or two, it was a just a probiotic type of thing so I chose not to redose. But if she does the same with an essential medicine, and there's not a big trouble in little overdosing it then should I go for redosing?

Purely anecdotal, Cairo tried to grab too many treats and also run for a toy at the same time. He did the same thing - he coughed/sneezed a treat out of his nose. Is it possible the feeding timing was off - either too much at one time or she breathed at the wrong time?

We usually give her medicine around 7 and it was 8 yesterday, moreover she got very scared of cloth she's wrapped in! What should I do to avoid something like this again?

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Oh! I didn't mean that sort of timing - sorry, bad communication on my part. I meant, perhaps you might have fed her too quickly or, if she's panicking, then she might have accidentally inhaled instead of swallowed (just like a human). You could try slowing down a little, so she has more time to adjust and swallow each part.

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[EllenD]

I wouldn't have worried about the Neutrolin B either, not a big deal...Like I said before, if since you had to actually compound both the Antibiotic and the Anti-Fungal, the vital meds for her, and because they were compounded you'r only giving her literally 1-2 drops, if she were to ever spit-out or sneeze-out the entire dose of either the Antibiotic or Anti-Fungal, I would definitely re-dose her with them...

What you need to keep in-mind is that when we're talking about an Antibiotic or an Anti-Fungal medication, and we're talking about literally "1 or 2 drops", there is not any chance of "overdosing" her...Actually, "overdose" is not the correct term to use with Antibiotics or Anti-Fungals anyway, but rather "over-medicating". There is absolutely no negative effect that is going to happen from giving her another drop or two of any of the medications you have, and since it's so vital that she get the full-dose of both the Antibiotic and the Anti-Fungal each and every day, if you see her definitely spit-out or sneeze-out the entire dose of either of them, then you almost HAVE to give her another drop of it just to make sure...There are no negative effects from doing this with either of those medications in the quantity of 1 or 2 drops. Even if the dose of either of those two meds was a full teaspoon, and let's say you accidentally gave her the antibiotic or anti-fungal medication twice by accident, so you gave her 2 full teaspoons instead of 1 (or even tablespoons for that matter), at worst it might upset her stomach or cause her to have a little diarrhea. Now you NEVER want to do this with any type of Narcotic pain medications, anti-anxiety drugs such as Xanax, Valium, Ativan, etc., or any anti-inflammatory drugs such as Metacam, these are the drugs that she could "overdose"
on...but if you see her spit-out the entire drop of antibiotic or anti-fungal, then yes, go ahead and give her another drop of it so you can ensure that she gets it.

How is she doing now? Is she eating normally? Sometimes when they are on multiple medications they can lose their appetites, hopefully the daily dose of Probiotics will keep her stomach and GI Tract settled and keep her appetite up...Are her Respiratory symptoms going away? How about the conjunctivitis in her eyes? I'm hoping that you're seeing the actual signs/symptoms of the Psittacosis Chlamydia starting to go away, specifically any of the Respiratory issues...

****As far as the medication/liquid coming out of her nostrils, bird's sinuses are exactly like ours in the sense that their throats, nostrils, eyes, and ears are all connected by the sinus passages. So birds can also have something they drink "come out of their noses", lol...What you do need to worry about is if it only came out of one nostril but not the other, or if you notice her breathing through her mouth (open-mouth breathing) instead of her nostrils, because that's a sign that one of her nostrils may be blocked with something; with Psittacosis they can really get a lot of congestion/pus/liquid in their sinus passages, so it's quite possible that one or both nasal passages may become blocked...Also, sometimes birds can develop growths inside of their nasal passages that block-off one side, and this usually results in them open-mouth breathing among othr symptoms, like watery eyes...usually these "growths" are just benign Polyps and not life-threatening, but they typically do try to shrink them with steroids or even surgically remove them.... I don't remember if they did an X-Ray on your bird, did they???? The reason I'm asking is because when they x-ray a bird they x-ray their entire body at one time, and they would have seen any growth/blockage of her nasal passages on the x-ray for sure...

 

[Mohitgaur088]

They didn't perform an X ray on her, and they didn't think if Nasal Polyps or some other tissue growth is there. She's having a thing now, it looks like a lil bit dirt in one nostril, its not puss or mucuos, no discharge. I couldn't ignore it but what worries me is that in that incident of medicine coming out of nostril...it was just coming out of one nostril, nothing was coming out of that a lil bit dirty nostril. Through there haven't been any incident of open mouth breathing or anything else. What should I do with that nostril? I don't wanna try cleaning it with Q Tip, she won't let me clean it.
And she's doing fine. Eyes have shown great improvements They are like all clear now, except of that mucous. I've started misting it. Hope it will get cleared soon. We're giving her things she likes and so many veggies to eat, and there is not any change in her appetite. Droppings are watery even now but respiratory issues seem to be a bit less.
Though she's more active, more cheerful. And flies about the room a couple of times. And more cuddly too. I believe everything will turn out to be good soon

I wouldn't have worried about the Neutrolin B either, not a big deal...Like I said before, if since you had to actually compound both the Antibiotic and the Anti-Fungal, the vital meds for her, and because they were compounded you'r only giving her literally 1-2 drops, if she were to ever spit-out or sneeze-out the entire dose of either the Antibiotic or Anti-Fungal, I would definitely re-dose her with them...

What you need to keep in-mind is that when we're talking about an Antibiotic or an Anti-Fungal medication, and we're talking about literally "1 or 2 drops", there is not any chance of "overdosing" her...Actually, "overdose" is not the correct term to use with Antibiotics or Anti-Fungals anyway, but rather "over-medicating". There is absolutely no negative effect that is going to happen from giving her another drop or two of any of the medications you have, and since it's so vital that she get the full-dose of both the Antibiotic and the Anti-Fungal each and every day, if you see her definitely spit-out or sneeze-out the entire dose of either of them, then you almost HAVE to give her another drop of it just to make sure...There are no negative effects from doing this with either of those medications in the quantity of 1 or 2 drops. Even if the dose of either of those two meds was a full teaspoon, and let's say you accidentally gave her the antibiotic or anti-fungal medication twice by accident, so you gave her 2 full teaspoons instead of 1 (or even tablespoons for that matter), at worst it might upset her stomach or cause her to have a little diarrhea. Now you NEVER want to do this with any type of Narcotic pain medications, anti-anxiety drugs such as Xanax, Valium, Ativan, etc., or any anti-inflammatory drugs such as Metacam, these are the drugs that she could "overdose"
on...but if you see her spit-out the entire drop of antibiotic or anti-fungal, then yes, go ahead and give her another drop of it so you can ensure that she gets it.

How is she doing now? Is she eating normally? Sometimes when they are on multiple medications they can lose their appetites, hopefully the daily dose of Probiotics will keep her stomach and GI Tract settled and keep her appetite up...Are her Respiratory symptoms going away? How about the conjunctivitis in her eyes? I'm hoping that you're seeing the actual signs/symptoms of the Psittacosis Chlamydia starting to go away, specifically any of the Respiratory issues...

****As far as the medication/liquid coming out of her nostrils, bird's sinuses are exactly like ours in the sense that their throats, nostrils, eyes, and ears are all connected by the sinus passages. So birds can also have something they drink "come out of their noses", lol...What you do need to worry about is if it only came out of one nostril but not the other, or if you notice her breathing through her mouth (open-mouth breathing) instead of her nostrils, because that's a sign that one of her nostrils may be blocked with something; with Psittacosis they can really get a lot of congestion/pus/liquid in their sinus passages, so it's quite possible that one or both nasal passages may become blocked...Also, sometimes birds can develop growths inside of their nasal passages that block-off one side, and this usually results in them open-mouth breathing among othr symptoms, like watery eyes...usually these "growths" are just benign Polyps and not life-threatening, but they typically do try to shrink them with steroids or even surgically remove them.... I don't remember if they did an X-Ray on your bird, did they???? The reason I'm asking is because when they x-ray a bird they x-ray their entire body at one time, and they would have seen any growth/blockage of her nasal passages on the x-ray for sure...

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