Sensi ex breeding macaw to pet

[Bubblypoet]

It's now been nearly 6 months of love patience and training for sensi. He is an ex breeding blue and gold macaw with a hell of alot of attitude. When I got him, his nails were very long and sharp his beak too long and his feathers in very bad condition. I'm now happy to say that although the self mutilation has not gone away (I've tried nearly everything) I am hopeful that with continuing his training we can further our bond. I am about to buy casozen for him but I'm really really not sure if this is the right move. I've tried to get him to eat chop only. I'm afraid this caused his plucking to get worse. So he now gets seeds (high grade only) along with his favourite vegetables, which to be honest there are nor many he will eat. Tomatoes,cucumber,red peppers,carrots and obviously fruits but as mainly a treat as I know how much sugar is in the fruit. He didn't let me touch him when I first got him but I did something crazy!!!! To get closer to him I used my face. I know, I know. But he has very very bad hand hatred! He has a very large vocabulary and is a charmer. He gets me to let him watch tv and although I am with him all day I do not beleive this is enough. He let's me pet him in the shower only or if he's sat on my knee. He's a strange one to figure out but it has been a pleasure all of it. He still lunges but does not bite me any more. He self soothes and as I have no clue where he was prior to the previous month I had him. (He's meant to be 12.) The vet couldn't read his ring either. Just wanted to give you this novel (sorry) to see if anyone knows aswell about ex breeding birds.

 

[wrench13]

Hi there. First - keep in mind that this casozen does not list the specific 'natural' ingredients, suggests that this has some sort of GABA A inhibitor (which might be Gabapentine) and most importantly"

• No Guarantee Cure: Casozen® is designed to support the well-being of birds and help manage stress. However, it is not guaranteed to cure any condition or behaviour.

Unfortunately there is no magic bullet for plucking and self-mutilation.

Breeder parrots have possibly the worst time in captivity. Usually minimal human interaction and the impetuous to breed breed breed. The breeder may not have cared if he plucked himself bald as a supermarket chicken, as long as the chicks kept coming.

You dont know much about his history - when the plucking and distrustful behavior started. Assume a long time, long enough for them to become habits. And habits in parrots can take a long time to break, sometimes really long and even never broken.

They are all about trust! Trust takes time to build up, like a bank account - a little deposit every day. Think in those terms in all you do with and to him. Does this build trust or does it withdraw trust from the bank. Thats an important frame of mind to keep.

Go at his pace of acceptance, and not your pace of expectations. Parrots love and thrive on routine, predictability and resist change, unlike our quick monkey brain changeability.

Diet - changing diet, as you have found out, can cause stress, and is best done gradually over time. My little amazon took a year to recognize pellets as food and not poison or toys. A year of offering them just to have to sweep them up and throw them out. Persistance is key in changing foods. Try changing the preparation of new foods - whole, chunky, smaller pieces and finely chopped. Sometimes thats the ticket to acceptance. Me- i'd leave the tomatoes out - too acidic for their digestive system. Hot red peppers - very good for them and dont worry about the heat.

Ideal parrot diet is like 60% veggies, 20% pellets, 10% fruit, 10% seeds and nuts. Percentages are not that important, what is important is the variety.

Good Luck!!

 

[Dragon58]

It's now been nearly 6 months of love patience and training for sensi. He is an ex breeding blue and gold macaw with a hell of alot of attitude. When I got him, his nails were very long and sharp his beak too long and his feathers in very bad condition. I'm now happy to say that although the self mutilation has not gone away (I've tried nearly everything) I am hopeful that with continuing his training we can further our bond. I am about to buy casozen for him but I'm really really not sure if this is the right move. I've tried to get him to eat chop only. I'm afraid this caused his plucking to get worse. So he now gets seeds (high grade only) along with his favourite vegetables, which to be honest there are nor many he will eat. Tomatoes,cucumber,red peppers,carrots and obviously fruits but as mainly a treat as I know how much sugar is in the fruit. He didn't let me touch him when I first got him but I did something crazy!!!! To get closer to him I used my face. I know, I know. But he has very very bad hand hatred! He has a very large vocabulary and is a charmer. He gets me to let him watch tv and although I am with him all day I do not beleive this is enough. He let's me pet him in the shower only or if he's sat on my knee. He's a strange one to figure out but it has been a pleasure all of it. He still lunges but does not bite me any more. He self soothes and as I have no clue where he was prior to the previous month I had him. (He's meant to be 12.) The vet couldn't read his ring either. Just wanted to give you this novel (sorryand) to see if anyone knows aswell about ex breeding birds.

im so glad you have your new macaw! breeders can be so crewl ( not spelled right i know) i have a little shitzoo i got from a breeder over the summer... she was skin and bones...her hair was damp so they had just bathed her....i think after she could no longer breed they stoped taking care of her....they cerently worent feeding her much... she is terrified of the dog brush now, i think they bathed her and quickly ran a comb through her hair just before we met with them...and not gently! she trembled in my lap half way home...before she finally curled up on my chest and went to sleep....the first few weeks she spent hidding under our sofabed....im happy to say she is now quite filled out sleeps in the bed with me and the other two dogs..and spends most of her time lying on the footstool of my lazyboy when shes not playing with the other two. kaity is 2 my aussiedoodle is almost a year old and my teacup yorkie is about 5 moths old...they all get along we also have a cat who tolarates the dogs with no probulem although if zena the teacup yorkie dosnt leave her alone well she might get a swat so far shes only been swated with the cats claws in...she might get a light swat with the claws out if she dosnt stop pestering the cat!! lol dont worry ivy the cat has her own room and we have a baby gate across the hall enterence so the dogs cant go down the hall into her room....also ladyhawk is perfectly safe with her cage next to my livingroom chair and the cat is locked in the bedroom anytime both of us are not in the house...the shitzoo and aussiedoodle are also locked in my wood shop anytime we are both not in the house.... this is not my first rodeo with multi animals of different kinds.... there is a strong rule in this house.....NO FIGHTING ALLOWED ! when ladyhawk and i get better aquinted and friendly the cat and all the dogs will locked away before she is let out until she is safely back in her cage and now spike is home with food!!! so im off to eat! im the onlyone in this house who hasnt eaten yet!!! and i didnt have to cook today!! lol

 

[Dragon58]

Hi there. First - keep in mind that this casozen does not list the specific 'natural' ingredients, suggests that this has some sort of GABA A inhibitor (which might be Gabapentine) and most importantly"

• No Guarantee Cure: Casozen® is designed to support the well-being of birds and help manage stress. However, it is not guaranteed to cure any condition or behaviour.

Unfortunately there is no magic bullet for plucking and self-mutilation.

Breeder parrots have possibly the worst time in captivity. Usually minimal human interaction and the impetuous to breed breed breed. The breeder may not have cared if he plucked himself bald as a supermarket chicken, as long as the chicks kept coming.

You dont know much about his history - when the plucking and distrustful behavior started. Assume a long time, long enough for them to become habits. And habits in parrots can take a long time to break, sometimes really long and even never broken.

They are all about trust! Trust takes time to build up, like a bank account - a little deposit every day. Think in those terms in all you do with and to him. Does this build trust or does it withdraw trust from the bank. Thats an important frame of mind to keep.

Go at his pace of acceptance, and not your pace of expectations. Parrots love and thrive on routine, predictability and resist change, unlike our quick monkey brain changeability.

Diet - changing diet, as you have found out, can cause stress, and is best done gradually over time. My little amazon took a year to recognize pellets as food and not poison or toys. A year of offering them just to have to sweep them up and throw them out. Persistance is key in changing foods. Try changing the preparation of new foods - whole, chunky, smaller pieces and finely chopped. Sometimes thats the ticket to acceptance. Me- i'd leave the tomatoes out - too acidic for their digestive system. Hot red peppers - very good for them and dont worry about the heat.

Ideal parrot diet is like 60% veggies, 20% pellets, 10% fruit, 10% seeds and nuts. Percentages are not that important, what is important is the variety.

Good Luck!!

is this type of diet also good for parrolets?

 

[wrench13]

Its pretty good for all parrots, budgies and cockatiels can take a little more seed as they are seed-avores in the wild. Eclectus parrots have special diet needs so this is not ideal for them.

 

[Dragon58]

thank you making up a shopping list to make the chop i found on here and get everythingi need soon....like i said i can make a lot up and then freeze it.... im so glad i found this sight! a LOT of the info i got from searces on line are wrong....one sight said they should have a small cage...i almost paniced as ladyhawks cage is big enough to fit two cockatails in comfortably...will start putting the kale and carrot in her food dish with just maybe a dash of seed food they sold me at the pet store....i WISH pet stores would be more concerned about the animals health and less concerned about the making money part.....i shudder to think how bad ladyhawks life would be if i handnt found this sight! maybe thats why theydont sell books on the care of there animals... i always got books on any animal i brought home if i didnt already know how to take care of them....and you cant always trust the information you get on line from just searching for information on an animal youve never had before.... i'll countue to research parrlots but before doing anything i will double check all info here before doing anything