New Aplliances KitchenAid Help

[Grateful]

Hello

I am replacing my appliances and have received a strange response, so I wanted to know if anyone has experience with KitchenAid appliances and the safety for Parrots.

I emailed the company and they said their ranges/stoves do not use Teflon PFFE or POFE but the I asked the store Im buying from to research further and his response was below.... I know these chemicals are fatal when heated but is there a concern in trace amounts in the plastic? thanks


"I got your email and I have bad news about the PFFE/ POFE.

I called To Kitchenaid and they said everything they make has very small trace amounts of these in their plastics.

Everything is posted store wide and on our website about Proposition 65 which is a result of these chemicals."

 

[SailBoat]

The large appliance series of Kitchen Aid products does not use the chemicals Teflon, PFFE, nor POFE as a surface coating or in any other heating areas of their appliances, nor do any of the other major brand name appliances.

The trace amounts of this group of chemicals within plastic parts is extremely low, if they exist at all! Understanding that this group of chemicals can become fatal when they enter the lungs /air sacks. The plastic would have to be burnt for this to happen. Burning plastic results in a very toxic mix of chemicals, which can be dangerous to both Humans and Parrots.

Sadly, resulting from the extensive use of recycled materials at near all levels of new product manufacturing. This results in some level of contamination in near all products that could contain recycled products. As a result, the Legal Departments of Mid to Major Corporations protect themselves by including like legal statements.

 

[Grateful]

Wow so that is good news thank you so much you sound like you work for the company

 

[Grateful]

Do you know how long I should let the oven run to burn off "new" chemicals and at what temperature? I want to do this before we move in

 

[SailBoat]

Wow so that is good news thank you so much you sound like you work for the company

No, have never been employed by any of them. Have supplied technology into that industry, but that is as close as I had gotten. Just really old and have enjoyed a life time of reading and learning.

 

[Grateful]

And just confirmed from Kitchenaid, they no longer use teflon or other chemicals like that removing them based on safety concens

 

[SailBoat]

The normal process for removing manufacturing processing coatings (common light (water based) forming /release oil) is to bring the oven to a temperature of 375 to 400 degrees F, and hold that temperature for 20 to 30 minutes, allow to cool to approx 100 degrees F and repeat. At the end of this second heating cooling cycle you should smell a bit to near no burn-off. If for some reason, your oven is pushing burn-off run an additional cycle. It is very rare to need a forth cycle. But better to get it done now before you move in.

Remember to run your kitchen fan while you are running cycles.

Note: If you have a gas /oil based forced air heating system or space heater style, now is the perfect time to have them cleaned and tested before this Winter sets in!

 

[EllenD]

Yep, EVERYTHING is going to contain many of those Fluorinated Compounds anymore, unfortunately, but it's only parts of the appliance that are going to be heated-up that you have to worry about, because they need to be heated-up to a certain temperature before they off-gas and toxin fumes are emitted...So for an oven, obviously it's the inside surfaces in the oven and then the top/burners on the stove that matter...However, do not EVER run the "Self-Cleaning" function on your oven, as that always seems to emit fumes that kill birds. Use elbow-grease to clean out the oven.

Any appliance that heats-up, like a hair blow-dryer, space heaters, the inside of an oven and a stove's burners, any hot-plates or portable grills like the George Foreman Grill (which is very toxic), waffle irons, clothing irons, etc. And then of course any pots, pans, cookware, or bakeware that you're going to be heating up...