Meet Frankie my new member of the flock bare eyed cockatoo

[ParrotGenie]

He a unexpected one as wasn't planning on buying anymore birds, yes train and deal with several birds at a time, so isn't a problem for me, but was hoping that someone when the last owner had him would have came though and gave him a good home permanently, like I am. I known this bird for over a year now as I bought him home on and off to train him for last owner months ago. He even flight train for the most part. The issue with him and reason he was given up by last owner before that which was a younger lady in the past, is cage aggression. She bought him originally at a bird expo about a few years back when he was about 2 years old. She later had kids and married and the bird and her husband didn't get along and he would randomly attack him. So he was pretty much bound to his cage for the next couple of years only to come out during cleaning and vet visits. He became understandably way to aggressive to handle and even pick some of his feathers out in the process. So she didn't want to see him do that and re-homed him to a store that had other birds. They gave him some attention but was scared to handle him for much as he severely bit one of the lady in the side of the face and lip and would bite at anyone that came near him at time. So over the past year, maybe longer I started handling him more and would bring him home to train him. Yes was bitten a few times from him in the process of bonding with him. Now he doesn't bite me nearly as much only when he don't want to come out of cage once in a while and come a long ways to the point I even flight trained him once he molted and grew back most of his feathers.

The reason I bought him was due to they were planning on selling him already which I was fine with reason why I was training and breaking some of his behavior issues, so no one else would have issues with him. The last owner only wanted to sell him due to needed the money and wasn't going to re-home him to a good home and just wanted the money. The lady that they were going to sell him to didn't even have a cage ready and barely any money to buy him. She was only going to buy him due to he talks a lot and she though he was cute the way he talked. So I tried to educate her and told her what required and needed and some of his past issues and she still wanted him. So figure maybe she try to give it what it takes and last owner agree with me at the time to let her have over a month to think about it and to get stuff ready and I even told her I help her get use to him and train her how to take care of him properly and other stuff needed. I was even going to give her a large cage for him. She just at the end wasn't going to give him a good home as didn't do anything to prepare even a month later and was trying to get him cheaper as she couldn't come up with all the money.

They were still going to still sell him to her a she kept calling them , so I bought him instead, as they did really needed the money to pay bills to keep store going, since business been slow their and I didn't want bird going to her as I also put a lot of time into him and he been though a lot already. Cockatoo's are very demanding for even the most experience owners, so definitely didn't want to see him get neglected again. It took me over a year to get him to be social and to trust once again and not to be destructive, plus he is a great talker and pretty much already had him on and off for a year, so he use to my other birds already and know his history and health and vet he see.

Here Frankie a Bare eyed Cockatoo

 

[riddick07]

Congrats! The bare eyeds are finally taking over the forum haha. Folger was called the vampire bird at the rescue and I got a lot of bites during the adoption process. I haven’t been bitten since he came home and it’s been 5 yrs now next month. He has plenty of issues still but at least bitting isn’t one anymore. My mother’s bare eyed Ivory is a clown and very outgoing! They are probably my favorite cockatoo and I’m not a cockatoo person.

 

[ParrotGenie]

Congrats! The bare eyeds are finally taking over the forum haha. Folger was called the vampire bird at the rescue and I got a lot of bites during the adoption process. I haven’t been bitten since he came home and it’s been 5 yrs now next month. He has plenty of issues still but at least bitting isn’t one anymore. My mother’s bare eyed Ivory is a clown and very outgoing! They are probably my favorite cockatoo and I’m not a cockatoo person.

I have to say out of all the Cockatoo's I dealt with even at rescues I worked at Bare eyed cockatoos are very social birds. Frankie can talk clearly and even sentences better then most African greys I dealt, even though we had one African grey that would curse at anyone that walked past him and besides the cursing he was a great talker as well. Most cockatoos usually don't talk clearly and tend to mumble words. Yep Frankie is a clown for the most part, but thankfully doesn't bite much anymore.

 

[Betrisher]

LOL! Your Frankie looks like a great boyfriend for my Rosetta! He's so sweet - I love the photos. Does he like to take Major Baths in his water? Rosetta bathes twice every day: in the morning around ten and again in the afternoon about four o'clock. Also, does Frankie wash his toys and dropped feathers in his water? I'm yet to find anyone else whose bird does this, but Rosetta *loves* her wash-day work.

Please don't call Frankie a 'Bare-eyed Cockatoo'. He's a Little Corella (Licmetis sanguinea) from Australia. Hannah's Sunny is a Long-billed Corella (Licmetis tenuirostris). While I'm at it (for the eleventeenth time), a Galah is NOT a 'Rose-breasted Cockatoo': it's a Galah. How would you feel if the rest of the world renamed your Bald Eagle as a 'Carrion-eating Fish Eagle'?

Sorry to rant! I get carried away. But these birds had names *before* they left our shores and it feels disrespectful to see them renamed for no good reason.

I can't wait to hear more of Frankie! For instance, is he hyperactive like Rosetta? She never sits still, but races and flies everywhere. Now that she's realised she can do things with me (like learning tricks), she's gradually slowing down. I'd love to hear more about Frankie's personality so we can compare the two birds.

Sorry again for ranting in your thread. But I gotta, y'know?

Betrisher

 

[Betrisher]

I never knew Folger was a Corella! Fancy that! I remember when you first got him and reading about your progress with him, thinking all the while 'Bare-eyed Cockatoos must be something like our Corellas'. I never twigged that some gormless drongo in the pet field had invented a new name to replace the perfectly good one they already have. Makes my blood boil! (Can y'tell?)

So, how is Folger today? Will you please write a quick catch-up for me (when or if you have the time, of course). I remember he was quite difficult when he arrived and you were trying lots of things to get him to open up to you. How did that go? Does he play now? Or call? You say he doesn't bite (thank Heaven!), but is he ready and willing to socialise with you and/or the other birds? Sorry for the barrage of questions, but this is one bird I was always interested in. Now, knowing he's actually a Corella, well - of course I'm busting to hear more about him.

 

[Laurasea]

Thank you for the rescue, I'm so glad he gets to be with someone experienced like you, and won't be passed around anymore!

 

[ParrotGenie]

Please don't call Frankie a 'Bare-eyed Cockatoo'. He's a Little Corella (Licmetis sanguinea) from Australia. Hannah's Sunny is a Long-billed Corella (Licmetis tenuirostris). While I'm at it (for the eleventeenth time), a Galah is NOT a 'Rose-breasted Cockatoo': it's a Galah. How would you feel if the rest of the world renamed your Bald Eagle as a 'Carrion-eating Fish Eagle'?

Sorry to rant! I get carried away. But these birds had names *before* they left our shores and it feels disrespectful to see them renamed for no good reason.

Not sure why we changed the name? For some reason people refer to them here as a Bare-eyed Cockatoo. Real specie name is "Little Corella".

I can't wait to hear more of Frankie! For instance, is he hyperactive like Rosetta? She never sits still, but races and flies everywhere. Now that she's realised she can do things with me (like learning tricks), she's gradually slowing down. I'd love to hear more about Frankie's personality so we can compare the two birds.

Sorry again for ranting in your thread. But I gotta, y'know?

Betrisher

He great so far He flew away from me a couple times today when I tried to get him to take a much needed shower. third time around he stay on perch and gave him a good shower, he actually put his wings out for me and everything, so he enjoyed it. He loves the blow dryer. He a quick learner as he come back on command and when I have him on my shoulder he step down when I ask him to and stopped biting altogether since I had him, been training him well before getting him, so knew him for over a year now. He not as hyper as like my umbrella Cockatoos, which get into trouble all the time pretty much, he pretty well behaved for the most part. Then again it is new environment for him, so he may not be hyper for the moment? He does explore from time to time. They had him in a large enclosure and no toys, so may take him time to learn how to play and enjoy himself now that he has some freedom to fly around and play, instead of being cage bound most of the time. I wish I could get my birds to wash their toys? I give my female umbrella Baby some credit as she tries to help me clean the cage, by taking the rag and moving on the bars at times. Soon I get him to go to sink to wash himself like my umbrellas do, my cockatiels I leave a bowl out and they jump right in.

 

[Betrisher]

Oh, those photos are just precious! I wish 'Setta would let me spray her, but she prefers to jump in her dish and try to sink herself. I've been trying to find a larger dish (eg. a baking dish or large casserole dish) - but no luck so far. Poor 'Setta is rather larger than her dish, which is round and only about 12" across. She needs a proper swimming pool.

I've always blow-dried my Beaks during the winter months. They seem to enjoy it every bit as much as their shower, raising their wings to let me dry underneath and generally looking blissful (gotta love birdie-bliss faces, eh?). I don't know what 'Setta thinks about that yet, 'cause it's FAR too hot to be having blow-dryers running in the house.

Today, she finally figured out what she can do with a roll of toilet paper. She had me in stitches as she jumped on it, rolled over it (and under it) and generally tried to kill it to death. The room is now full to the eyebrows with strips of TP, but 'Setta's as happy as a lark (NB. I have no clue how happy that is, except to say 'very') and preening before her arvo nap. Oh. She also got hold of my (already marked, thankfully) Maths assignment and pierced five holes in it before I managed to carefully wangle it out of her beak.

When we got our Galah, he had no idea how to do *any*thing. But watching the Beaks helped him a lot. He learned from them how to eat pellets and how to jump-hop up onto the playgym. He also learned to 'play ball' largely by watching them. In the seven years we had him, he never learned to actually play with a toy by pecking or moving it around with his bill, but he did learn to enjoy foot toys. One day, he picked up my car keys and jangled them around for a while, so I made him his own keyring with a few beads and bells on it. Whenever I heard that toy jangle, I'd smile to think Dom was playing and having fun.

I hope Frankie learns how to play! Corellas are probably the most playful of all the cockies. Why don't you try him with a plastic baby's rattle or a whiffle ball? 'Setta kills her whiffle balls eventually because she finds herself forced to rip 'em open and get the bell out of the middle. For this reason, I never leave her alone with a whiffle ball in her cage. We had a member lose a bird once because it swallowed the clapper out of a small bell and died of nickel poisoning.

I tried to take some photos of 'Setta this arvo, but they all came out too blurred (she's quick!). Will keep trying, but meanwhile don't be shy about sharing pics of your birds, will you?

Oh! One more thing! Do consider giving Frankie a length of knotted rope to swing on. I hang 'Setta's from the roof of the cage and it's just long enough for her to reach. She jumps up and grabs it, then swings like a mad thing, squawking all the while. She likes her circular swing too (metal ring covered with cotton rope). She hangs from that and grabs the rope in her beak to help propel herself about. I've already had to replace one boing on account of it died from overuse!

 

[Rozalka]

Please don't call Frankie a 'Bare-eyed Cockatoo'. He's a Little Corella (Licmetis sanguinea) from Australia. Hannah's Sunny is a Long-billed Corella (Licmetis tenuirostris). While I'm at it (for the eleventeenth time), a Galah is NOT a 'Rose-breasted Cockatoo': it's a Galah.

Bare eyed cockatoo = little corella. Both names with "cockatoo" and "corella" are correct. Like galah = rose breasted cockatoo. I'm not native English speaker but here (on PF) I noticed that generally "galah" and "corella" are used in Australia, but in America - "cockatoo". I know this can be confusing but this is hard to eliminate all names which aren't "official" and make that all people will use one name for each species.

 

[Betrisher]

Bare eyed cockatoo = little corella. Both names with "cockatoo" and "corella" are correct. Like galah = rose breasted cockatoo. I'm not native English speaker but here (on PF) I noticed that generally "galah" and "corella" are used in Australia, but in America - "cockatoo". I know this can be confusing but this is hard to eliminate all names which aren't "official" and make that all people will use one name for each species.

The thing is, both birds are native to Australia and Australia only. They are called Galah and Corella. In the same way that it's not OK for Australians to say 'Carrion-eating Fish Eagle' instead of 'Bald Eagle', it's incorrect to simply change established cockatoo names 'just because'.

I've been a very good girl and not complained about the incorrect abbreviation, ''too' (we call them 'cockies'), but it makes my teeth itch when people earnestly use the WRONG NAMES. I'm an ex-teacher: I've been trained never to allow mis-information to go by.

It's very easy to help people use the correct names: you simply point it out and most people can see the point.

 

[Rozalka]

Bare eyed cockatoo = little corella. Both names with "cockatoo" and "corella" are correct. Like galah = rose breasted cockatoo. I'm not native English speaker but here (on PF) I noticed that generally "galah" and "corella" are used in Australia, but in America - "cockatoo". I know this can be confusing but this is hard to eliminate all names which aren't "official" and make that all people will use one name for each species.

The thing is, both birds are native to Australia and Australia only. They are called Galah and Corella. In the same way that it's not OK for Australians to say 'Carrion-eating Fish Eagle' instead of 'Bald Eagle', it's incorrect to simply change established cockatoo names 'just because'.

I've been a very good girl and not complained about the incorrect abbreviation, ''too' (we call them 'cockies'), but it makes my teeth itch when people earnestly use the WRONG NAMES. I'm an ex-teacher: I've been trained never to allow mis-information to go by.

It's very easy to help people use the correct names: you simply point it out and most people can see the point.

I understand this but some correct names are very rare used. For example umbrella cockatoo officially is the white cockatoo but no one uses it.The same all species of conures are named as "parakeets" - sun parakeet, green cheeked parakeet etc. In aviculture they are as conures but not officially. Because of this reason I fully tolerate names which aren't really confused and are very common. Corellas and galahs are cockatoos (I mean classification) but for example "palm black cockatoo" (in Wikipedia I see verson "great black cockatoo") isn't a species of the black cockatoo but it is palm cockatoo. Names like this are very confusing and I don't really like them. Also I don't like when people use latin names or translate them from other languages but here I don't see that problem (this is in my native language)

 

[Betrisher]

I understand this but some correct names are very rare used. For example umbrella cockatoo officially is the white cockatoo but no one uses it.The same all species of conures are named as "parakeets" - sun parakeet, green cheeked parakeet etc. In aviculture they are as conures but not officially. Because of this reason I fully tolerate names which aren't really confused and are very common. Corellas and galahs are cockatoos (I mean classification) but for example "palm black cockatoo" (in Wikipedia I see verson "great black cockatoo") isn't a species of the black cockatoo but it is palm cockatoo. Names like this are very confusing and I don't really like them. Also I don't like when people use latin names or translate them from other languages but here I don't see that problem (this is in my native language)

Ironically, you're actually contradicting yourself. Common names are far more often confusing and can vary widely, depending on where in the world one lives. These silly names '(Bare-eyed', 'Rose-breasted') for Australian birds are an excellent example.

The only totally standard way of naming living things is the binomial system of nomenclature (Carolus Linné, 1738), which happens to be based heavily in Latin and partially in Greek (guess what I'm currently studying at Uni?) The Latin names change rarely (although recently, an astonishing number of them have been revised owing to the information DNA can now provide us. It's why Corellas are no longer included in the genus _Cacatua_, for example. DNA has shown them to be separate from the great cockatoos.

Another good example of confusion is the name of the bird you call a 'cockatiel'. *I* call it a quarrion while I believe our friend, Amanda, calls it a 'weiro'.

May I respectfully suggest that you don't see a problem because you're using names you learned a long time ago - but they're wrong. *I* see a problem because (with respect) there are far more Galahs and Corellas in my country than in yours and their names are neither rare nor confusing. They are Galahs and Corellas. See?

Palm Cockatoos (Probosciger aterrimus) are indeed Palm Cockatoos and the black cockatoos of the genus _Calyptorhynchus_ (from the Greek, meaning 'covered snout') are separate from them and enjoy a variety of names, most of which are descriptive of the bird or of the person who identified it.

I promise I'm not arguing - just conversing, as y'do... I've got a Maths to study for and am cleverly finding reasons not to. Posting here is much more fun!

PS. My Beaks are called _Psittacula eupatria_, which comes from the Greek. _Psittacula_ is a diminutive form of 'psitta - a parrot', so: 'little parrot' or 'parakeet'. 'Eupatria' is also Greek, meaning 'good/worthy fatherland'. I've been translating an encyclopaedia by a bloke called Pliny the Elder. His chapter on Birds is fascinating, because he used names for the birds that we still use (in Latin) today!

 

[FlyBirdiesFly]

I’m confused... so cockatiel is an incorrect name?? I’ve literally never heard them being called anything else. In the US we call Galahs rose-breasted cockatoos and Corellas bare-eyed cockatoos. I don’t know what the big deal is here.

 

[Rozalka]

I don't want to argue but I looked at your bird list and I see you use common names too. Masked lovebird officially is a yellow collared lovebird.
Cockatiel is a correct name which is in the list of birds

 

[FlyBirdiesFly]

Also another example is that we call Monk parakeets Quaker parrots in aviculture, and Rose-ringed parakeets Indian ringneck parakeets. We also replace the term ‘parakeet’ with ‘conure’ for many species. Are those incorrect names as well??

 

[Rozalka]

Also another example is that we call Monk parakeets Quaker parrots in aviculture, and Rose-ringed parakeets Indian ringneck parakeets. Are those incorrect names as well??

For quaker parrot correct name is monk parakeet.
"IRN" is a subspecies of the Rose ringed parakeet. This subspecies is officially named Indian rose ringed parakeet

 

[Rozalka]

Betrisher: I think we're talking about two different things. You seem to think that for Australian birds are correct names used only in Australia (*I* got that impression). But not everywhere is used English, so for example with conure or macaws would be a problem with the correct names. In every official sides "cockatiel" is a cockatiel

 

[Scott]

What a beautiful Little Corella!

 

[Betrisher]

I don't want to argue but I looked at your bird list and I see you use common names too. Masked lovebird officially is a yellow collared lovebird.
Cockatiel is a correct name which is in the list of birds

'Masked Lovebird' is a term used among our local (NSW) breeders to denote a hybrid between Fischer's Lovebird and Yellow-collared Lovebirds. I'm not aware of any other name for that hybrid, so it's the one I use. 'Cockatiel' is not always used throughout the bird's natural range (Australia) because aboriginal names are often used and those vary according to tribe. Locally, we call them 'quarrion' because the Worimi people called them that. Farther north, the Darkinjung people called them 'weiro' etc etc etc.

 

[Betrisher]

ROTFL, Scott! You wouldn't be taking the urinary component of droppings, would you?