Jasper Talks!!!!

[LeoJasperZon]

After another check up from vet, I requested a different avai, because the other one was trying to rip me off. He got complete exam, and trim. He had leissons on his feet and body area, he was was over preening, which isn't normal for a amazon to do. They are healing Dr. Knight told me, got some aloe spray, and two days later guess what! Out of the blue he said hello, hey birdie, laughs, and pretty bird! Then he will raise one foot and say goodbye. The words are very clear!! He trys to say his name, haven't heard him say it clearly just yet, and almost or trys to say I love you. I was so happy he had came out to me today!!! I took a video but I think its too big put on here, and me in background talking to him, and he whistles cat call!! :41:

 

[thekarens]

That's awesome! Post it on YouTube and then post the link here. I'd love to see/hear him.

 

[LeoJasperZon]

That's awesome! Post it on YouTube and then post the link here. I'd love to see/hear him.

Okay gotta make a you tube account, listen carefully when I post the link, he has a deep voice, mine is higher pitched.

 

[LeoJasperZon]

That's awesome! Post it on YouTube and then post the link here. I'd love to see/hear him.

Here you go I already had an account lol

[ame=http://youtu.be/DqCxeMq0Spc]Amazon Jasper video cat call whistle and me talking. - YouTube[/ame]

 

[henpecked]

I see jasper is no spring chicken, how old is he? Did you know he's a parvipes sub-species? His nails look long and are his legs plucked? You say he has sores on his feet ? IMO he might have several different health issues, what does the high dollar AV say? In the next video try and get the light behind you.

 

[thekarens]

Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed the video. I know nothing about zons, but henpecked knows a boatload.

 

[LeoJasperZon]

I see jasper is no spring chicken, how old is he? Did you know he's a parvipes sub-species? His nails look long and are his legs plucked? You say he has sores on his feet ? IMO he might have several different health issues, what does the high dollar AV say? In the next video try and get the light behind you.

Yes avian vet needs to do blood work, I only know that he is around 10 years old. Yes legs are, and gray small feathers under his wings, he is deficient in vitamin A, one reason, said the vet, also been spraying him with medicated aloe spray Dr. Knight gave me, he hates it because I assume it stings maybe.... She told me spray him with it serval times a day until I can get a budget to find out what's wrong, just the tests are $300.00, then he would be hospitalized for a while. She told me they use plastic cone around neck area so birds won't pluck, but he must be supervised because he won't eat possible if I put it on him myself.... Which I could do but its risky, his nails where already trimmed a few days ago. He is eating pellets very well, as he was on a seed only diet, and the past owners where heavy smokers, which I didn't know because she told me she could smell smoke all over him, and I do not SMOKE!

 

[LeoJasperZon]

I see jasper is no spring chicken, how old is he? Did you know he's a parvipes sub-species? His nails look long and are his legs plucked? You say he has sores on his feet ? IMO he might have several different health issues, what does the high dollar AV say? In the next video try and get the light behind you.

Yes avian vet needs to do blood work, I only know that he is around 10 years old. Yes legs are, and gray small feathers under his wings, he is deficient in vitamin A, one reason, said the vet, also been spraying him with medicated aloe spray Dr. Knight gave me, he hates it because I assume it stings maybe.... She told me spray him with it serval times a day until I can get a budget to find out what's wrong, just the tests are $300.00, then he would be hospitalized for a while. She told me they use plastic cone around neck area so birds won't pluck, but he must be supervised because he won't eat possible if I put it on him myself.... Which I could do but its risky, his nails where already trimmed a few days ago. He is eating pellets very well, as he was on a seed only diet, and the past owners where heavy smokers, which I didn't know because she told me she could smell smoke all over him, and I do not SMOKE!

What sub spieces you mean, I know he is YNA.

 

[henpecked]

There's 4 different sub-species of YNA. Yours looks to be a parvipes. goggle YNA sub-species. All depends on where in their native range they came from. parvipes are a bit smaller than most with noticeably smaller feet. Also about the only nape that gets the yellow collar around their neck when FULLY mature. I'd guess your bird to be 30 yrs at least.( does he have a open type USDA quarantine band??) Also about the right age to suffer from VitA deficiency from a seed diet. (Surprised your AV didn't recommend something for that) VitA issues usually show up in the liver. It suppresses their immune system and leads to infection in mucous membranes and surrounding organs. The liver is often enlarged and is known as "fatty liver" disease. This could very well be the cause to "barbering" or plucking under the wings. ( they're trying to get at what'a bothering them on the inside). The legs are a different matter , we've had several threads about metal toxicity lately,, causing zons to pluck,bite and even mutilate their legs. Both of these conditions can be treated.

The right AV would deal with these issues often in older zons. If you've not sure about your AV, PM me. I do know some other AVs South of you who are the real thing and charge alot less than 300$. What Vet does your zoo use? I'm sure he could take blood/fecal sample and other swabs for culture. There 's a good AV (only) who could do the cultures and test for a fraction of that , if you could send them to him. He deals with these issues on a daily basis and has his own lab/pathologist. (he does zoos, inspections for the USDA, breeder operations,etc). If nothing else your zoo vet could consult with him.

A AV who recommends a collar for a zon is an idiot IMO. Very rare for a zon to pluck for any reason other than a medical one. of course a good AV would know that. Fix the medical issues. The plucking will go away.

The foot issue, goggle "bumble foot" in parrots. perches are most likely to be your issue. Get rid of any "dowel" type perches,(small diameter,smooth, dirty). I'd go to "bird safe' natural perches. Some of the best in the world grow wild in your area. The sore spots on the feet are caused by wear/pressure on the same area of the foot. natural perches vary in size and shape so that different parts of the foot are used when the bird moves around on the perch. If he spends alot of time on the rope perches,,,they are just as bad, moreso because the birds like them. Perch diameter should be 1 1/2 times the dia of their foot. Example, if his toes touch on a 1" dia perch ,,,then he needs a 1 1/2" dia perch. Toes should only reach less than 75% of the way around a perch. Heck, a 2 or 3" diameter natural perch would be good.Zons need different sizes, generally larger is better.

I could write a book here but will try not too. Loads of good info in the older threads, use the forum search near the top right to look up some of these issue. PM me if you need help or info.

 

[LeoJasperZon]

There's 4 different sub-species of YNA. Yours looks to be a parvipes. goggle YNA sub-species. All depends on where in their native range they came from. parvipes are a bit smaller than most with noticeably smaller feet. Also about the only nape that gets the yellow collar around their neck when FULLY mature. I'd guess your bird to be 30 yrs at least.( does he have a open type USDA quarantine band??) Also about the right age to suffer from VitA deficiency from a seed diet. (Surprised your AV didn't recommend something for that) VitA issues usually show up in the liver. It suppresses their immune system and leads to infection in mucous membranes and surrounding organs. The liver is often enlarged and is known as "fatty liver" disease. This could very well be the cause to "barbering" or plucking under the wings. ( they're trying to get at what'a bothering them on the inside). The legs are a different matter , we've had several threads about metal toxicity lately,, causing zons to pluck,bite and even mutilate their legs. Both of these conditions can be treated.

The right AV would deal with these issues often in older zons. If you've not sure about your AV, PM me. I do know some other AVs South of you who are the real thing and charge alot less than 300$. What Vet does your zoo use? I'm sure he could take blood/fecal sample and other swabs for culture. There 's a good AV (only) who could do the cultures and test for a fraction of that , if you could send them to him. He deals with these issues on a daily basis and has his own lab/pathologist. (he does zoos, inspections for the USDA, breeder operations,etc). If nothing else your zoo vet could consult with him.

A AV who recommends a collar for a zon is an idiot IMO. Very rare for a zon to pluck for any reason other than a medical one. of course a good AV would know that. Fix the medical issues. The plucking will go away.

The foot issue, goggle "bumble foot" in parrots. perches are most likely to be your issue. Get rid of any "dowel" type perches,(small diameter,smooth, dirty). I'd go to "bird safe' natural perches. Some of the best in the world grow wild in your area. The sore spots on the feet are caused by wear/pressure on the same area of the foot. natural perches vary in size and shape so that different parts of the foot are used when the bird moves around on the perch. If he spends alot of time on the rope perches,,,they are just as bad, moreso because the birds like them. Perch diameter should be 1 1/2 times the dia of their foot. Example, if his toes touch on a 1" dia perch ,,,then he needs a 1 1/2" dia perch. Toes should only reach less than 75% of the way around a perch. Heck, a 2 or 3" diameter natural perch would be good.Zons need different sizes, generally larger is better.

I could write a book here but will try not too. Loads of good info in the older threads, use the forum search near the top right to look up some of these issue. PM me if you need help or info.

Check via private message thank you very much, I wrote what I know, and what I am doing for him.

 

[henpecked]

Got your PM. Need to add,,, goggle, "sunshine factor" a Red Palm Oil (from the nuts) . High in VitA and a "must feed" in your situation. You can also get them fresh in the winter just south of you. Christmas palm nuts , they are bight red when ripe and very good for zons. "Queen Palm nuts are also good and grow in your area. generally a taller palm you can find some you can reach. They are yellow/gold when ripe and aren't as big as the Christmas palm nut. Try feeding both "green" nuts and ripe nuts. Some zons prefer one over the other. Research VitA rich foods and find some he will eat. i'm glad to hear you got him off the sunflower seeds. About the only seeds i'd feed from now on, are hemp seeds(1-2 TBS per week) or sprouted seeds. You really need to look into "sprouts". easy to do and very healthy for your birds. Loads of good threads here on the forum, (use the search).