Jackie's Story

getwozzy

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I wasn't really sure where I should post this, but Off Topic seemed like a good spot I guess... Anyways, for those who are interested, here's Jackie's story and how he came to own me :)

It started in December, last year...a friend of mine, L, posted a picture of Jackie on Facebook asking if anyone knew what kind of parrot he was. After several google searches I concluded he might be a Mexican red headed amazon (I later learned he is actually a Tucuman Amazon)...at that point L called me and explained he belonged to her elderly mother in law who was suffering from Alzheimer's. There was also a yellow crowned kakariki, Sparky...the birds belonged to her husband who had passed away a few years ago. The birds had been moved from the living room to a back bedroom, where for a few years they received minimal interaction and care. L asked if when the time came to rehome them if we would adopt them. We said yes, but requested a visit to the home to assess the situation. We were able to visit that same day, after driving an hour to pay them a visit we saw a dire situation. Both birds in dirty cages, dirty floors, dirty covers, overgrown nails, the works... My heart sank. We wanted to load them up right then and there, but she said no. The owner wasn't able to tell me anything about the birds; genders, ages, species- all unknown to her thanks to the Alzheimer's. Thank goodness the cages were labeled with their names. When we got home I called L and let her know that their situation was worse than I thought and they should be removed as soon as possible and given a home where they could receive proper care, interaction, and a clean environment. L said that when the time comes, she would call me.

Two months passed; I worried for the birds...but then L called me and said her MIL had been moved out of her home and into a relative's and the birds were still there, with a neighbor coming over to feed and water them. We got the ok to drive down and get them. We made the trip, and Jackie's cage was bigger than I remembered and almost didn't fit in the back of our suv. We got home and got them set up in their new home and let them be. I felt relief that they were no longer in that home. I was also unsure of what I had gotten myself into; the biggest bird I ever had was a Quaker, and that was 15 years ago. I was intimidated by Jackie's size, and his beak!

The first few days I let them be, providing food, water, and words. Jackie would rush the bars, trying to attack my fingers as I changed his dishes. After a few days, I opened the cage door and lured him out with a treat set in sight. From there, we've had to overcome several behavioral obstacles; lunging at my hands through the bars when changing dishes, chasing my hands while moving dishes on top of the cage, being a naughty boy come bed time, just the works.

I have learned a lot from folks on this forum, and with a lot of advice have been able to overcome Jackie's issues. Today, 3.5 months later, he no longer lunges, nor chases my hands, but in fact welcomes head scritches, I can feed him treats from my fingers without getting bit, calls for me, yearns to be near me, and now he steps up without issues. He's become quite the spoiled lil boy and is obviously enjoying every minute of it.

I am one of those bird owners who rescued him without doing extensive research on zons, but as an animal lover I couldn't say no, and leave him to an unknown fate. I am a firm believer that things happen for a reason, and he was meant to join our family. He has his moments of grumpiness, but our progress together has been worth it. My patience, determination, and faith have played a great part in our successes, and I'm excited for our future together.

Cheers to you, Jackie!

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What a gorgeous Bird. You are very lucky indeed. I love the feathers, they like to me like fish scales, simply beautiful.
 
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What a gorgeous Bird. You are very lucky indeed. I love the feathers, they like to me like fish scales, simply beautiful.

Thank you :) I feel very lucky to have him, and thankful my hubby puts up with my crazy animal ways lol
I love his feathers too! I can hardly wait for his flight feathers to grow back out because they're red and blue and just beautiful!!!! His scalloping is pretty cool, and his tail feathers have red scallops instead of the black like on the rest of his body :)
 
Getwozzy, that's such a heartwarming story! I can't imagine how those birds might have ended up if you hadn't come into their lives. Well done! Please give Jacky and Sparky (and Quigley) a heartfelt squawk from me and my flock here in Australia.

I inherited my Dad's Galah, Dominic, under similar circumstances. My Mum had been in the early stages of Alzheimer's for a number of years and when it finally became obvious she needed to go into care, we found the poor bird shut away in a corner of her yard with scant food (sunflower seeds) and murky green water. It still makes me sick to recall the day I found him like that. I'm trying to give him a much better life with a good diet and company, but it's a bit of a challenge.

Dominic bites like a trapdoor! The old vulture will be dancing up and down to your whistle in one minute and pulling a hunk of flesh off your arm in the next! I don't know what to do to gain his trust (without losing a pound of flesh, that is) and wonder if you have any suggestions. I feel as though poor Dominic might be reachable after reading your story about Jacky. I hope you have some advice for me?

PS. I brought Mum home for Mothers' Day lunch in May. As we were wheeling her out to the car, we paused in front of Dominic's cage. Mum put her hand in and the old viper (Dominic, not Mum...) hopped on board and sidled sweetly up to her for a kiss! If I'd attempted that, I'd have been in shreds within seconds. Help!
 
Oh that story just gave me goosebumps!! Thank you for sharing it with us. I truly believe this is a love story!!

You have come SUCH a long way with Jackie in such a short amount of time!

I agree with Mike, his feathers are just GORGEOUS! And WOW, he's got red scalloping on his tail feathers? That must look stunning! What a contrast! :D

I've only ever seen one Tucuman in real life, and must say that your Jackie looks MUCH nicer than the one I've seen. ;)
 
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Getwozzy, that's such a heartwarming story! I can't imagine how those birds might have ended up if you hadn't come into their lives. Well done! Please give Jacky and Sparky (and Quigley) a heartfelt squawk from me and my flock here in Australia.

I inherited my Dad's Galah, Dominic, under similar circumstances. My Mum had been in the early stages of Alzheimer's for a number of years and when it finally became obvious she needed to go into care, we found the poor bird shut away in a corner of her yard with scant food (sunflower seeds) and murky green water. It still makes me sick to recall the day I found him like that. I'm trying to give him a much better life with a good diet and company, but it's a bit of a challenge.

Dominic bites like a trapdoor! The old vulture will be dancing up and down to your whistle in one minute and pulling a hunk of flesh off your arm in the next! I don't know what to do to gain his trust (without losing a pound of flesh, that is) and wonder if you have any suggestions. I feel as though poor Dominic might be reachable after reading your story about Jacky. I hope you have some advice for me?

PS. I brought Mum home for Mothers' Day lunch in May. As we were wheeling her out to the car, we paused in front of Dominic's cage. Mum put her hand in and the old viper (Dominic, not Mum...) hopped on board and sidled sweetly up to her for a kiss! If I'd attempted that, I'd have been in shreds within seconds. Help!

Thanks for the squawks :)

It's truly sad how Alzheimer's claims the elderly :/ and it not only affects them but everyone around them. My grandpa passed last year, and he had Alzheimer's really bad, and my MIL's mom had it too :/ and of course the pets involved don't understand and it's sad to see them get brushed aside- usually unintentionally. I was surprised how well/healthy Jackie and sparky turned out to be despite their previous living conditions.

As far as advice, I am by no means a pro at this (lol), but with Jackie I've taken it VERRRRY slow and we only just started working on stepping up. I started by wrapping my arm with an ace bandage and wearing a sweatshirt over it to dull the impact of bites when offering my arm. We're at the point now where I don't have to wear the bandage since he now sees my arm as non-threatening. I watch his body language and verbal ques carefully- when he's upset or in the mood for biting his eyes flash/pin, his tail feathers fan, he flares his head feathers- all while saying "it's ok!!!" lol a clearly deceptive phrase. So, if he exhibits any of those behaviors or says "it's ok!" I just walk away and wait until he's calmed down. Another thing is I try to pay attention to things that might trigger his madness...the only time he accepts my fingers is if I'm giving him food or head scritches, otherwise fingers are unacceptable. Lol also, various noises (most of which I've figured out) seem to trigger his madness too. If my husband is within close proximity, Jackie gets upset because I'm his and he doesn't like hubby. So- see if you find patterns in things, sounds, people, colors or anything else that coincides with him biting you. Maybe if you are touching him in a certain spot that he's sensitive about, that could also cause a bite. Dominic may also may be territorial about his cage, so if he can see the cage it may cause him anxiety. With Jackie, his cage is mainly for sleep and is in a completely different room than his jungle gym. When he's not around his cage, he's MUCH easier to work with.

Awwww!! He misses his mommy!! What a sweet guy :) deep down, there's a sweet bird in there; he might still be transitioning and hasn't quite "let go" of mum. Jackie calls me Charlie/chuck (previous owner) every time he sees me...I've learned to just accept it and that he associates me with his mate/owner.

I hope my suggestions are of help to you; feel free to message me if you like! :)
 
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Oh that story just gave me goosebumps!! Thank you for sharing it with us. I truly believe this is a love story!!

You have come SUCH a long way with Jackie in such a short amount of time!

I agree with Mike, his feathers are just GORGEOUS! And WOW, he's got red scalloping on his tail feathers? That must look stunning! What a contrast! :D

I've only ever seen one Tucuman in real life, and must say that your Jackie looks MUCH nicer than the one I've seen. ;)

Thank you for reading it! :)
I truly believe that had it not been for this forum I wouldn't have had such great success with him. Parrots truly teach a person patience, devotion, and faith; you can't have a successful and fulfilling relationship with them otherwise.

Yes; his rear end is just FABULOUS!! Lol ;P he has the dark green which fades to a vibrant lime green and they're tipped with red scallops. I'll try to get a picture- he's napping at the moment and if I try to be sneaky he'll yell at me lol I try to get pics of his wings when he stretches but no luck yet. He's kinda leery when I try to take close ups with my phone; you'd think he'd be used to it by now!! I'll try to do a photo shoot of him this afternoon with my real camera with him in the sunlight- iPhone pics just don't do him justice ;P lol
 
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Thanks heaps, getwozzy! I wasn't going to bother with Dominic, but after talking to you I think I'll have another go. He's had such an awful life since my Dad died, I owe him that at least. Off I go to get bandages! LOL!
 
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Thanks heaps, getwozzy! I wasn't going to bother with Dominic, but after talking to you I think I'll have another go. He's had such an awful life since my Dad died, I owe him that at least. Off I go to get bandages! LOL!

You're welcome :) it may take a really long time for him to warm up to you, but don't get discouraged!!
I hope the bandages help! They did in Jackie's case haha if Dominic sees it on your arm and freaks out, put a sweatshirt on to cover it and that should disguise it...they're smart lil buggers!! Lol when Jackie realized his bites didn't make my arm go away he learned to deal with it and in the end, I won :)
 
Thank you both, Getwozzy & Betrisher, for what you are doing with these birds. Taking animals out of such horrible situations is what I have done much of my life as an Animal Welfare Rescuer. I have seen many equally sad scenarios. Birds were always my special interest. You are doing exactly right things with them, and you are getting results. Birds are so different than other animals, and require much more patience, understanding and trust building. It is such an wonderful feeling when you see that spark of acceptance from them. Bravo to you both!
 
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Thank you both, Getwozzy & Betrisher, for what you are doing with these birds. Taking animals out of such horrible situations is what I have done much of my life as an Animal Welfare Rescuer. I have seen many equally sad scenarios. Birds were always my special interest. You are doing exactly right things with them, and you are getting results. Birds are so different than other animals, and require much more patience, understanding and trust building. It is such an wonderful feeling when you see that spark of acceptance from them. Bravo to you both!

Thank you for your words of encouragement! :) I always thought my dogs and cats were smart cookies, and had always heard about parrots' intelligence...but having one definitely opened my eyes to how intelligent they really are!
 
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It's true, isn't it? Each one of us has that dawning moment where we realise the awesome intelligence inside these feathery creatures' heads. Just think of all the birds out there like Jackie and Dominic who've been kept in tiny cages with nothing but food and water! All the ones in pet shops, living in draughts, heat and cold, crowds and poking fingers! I think everyone here would do the same for any poor bird that came into their lives. Mind you, Dominic tried my patience sorely this arvo: I put my wrapped and covered arm in the cage and he got a good hold of my naked thumb and chomped hard. I told myself it would've been *far* worse if one of the Alexes had done that. Will try again tomorrow.
 
Im so glad you shared your story!! :) Im sure theirs many that encounter that situation and immediately give up . Goes to show you can win a bird over :) ,and honestly that's the mind frame you have to have. Betrisher ive had a RB2 and now this Goffin with major behavioral issues. Since their beaks are smaller than my LS2 im braver.Ive learned toos are bullys and biuffers. So with this goffin [I where a sweatshirt ] and as he lunges at me I stand up to him [ Ive even said go ahead bite me and hes backed off] I think acting really confident they pick up on. Consistent times out seems to be working for him.
 
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It's true, isn't it? Each one of us has that dawning moment where we realise the awesome intelligence inside these feathery creatures' heads. Just think of all the birds out there like Jackie and Dominic who've been kept in tiny cages with nothing but food and water! All the ones in pet shops, living in draughts, heat and cold, crowds and poking fingers! I think everyone here would do the same for any poor bird that came into their lives. Mind you, Dominic tried my patience sorely this arvo: I put my wrapped and covered arm in the cage and he got a good hold of my naked thumb and chomped hard. I told myself it would've been *far* worse if one of the Alexes had done that. Will try again tomorrow.

I know :( it makes me so sad thinking about all those unfortunate birds!!!

Have you tried to open the cage door and let him come out on his own first? Then try to get him to step up? That's what I do with Jackie. I keep my hand closed in a fist so my fingers are a little more protected.
 
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Im so glad you shared your story!! :) Im sure theirs many that encounter that situation and immediately give up . Goes to show you can win a bird over :) ,and honestly that's the mind frame you have to have.

I admit, there were times when I felt like giving up and felt like I seriously lost my mind trying to take on a huge commitment like Jackie. Some don't understand how committed you have to be to a parrot; it's literally like having another toddler for me lol but now when I open his cage in the morning, it's such a reward when he clambers out and immediately wants to hop on my arm and start the day with me :)
 
You're right, getwozzy! The closed fist is the key! That's how I got over my fear of the Alexandrine's beaks. If you present the back of your closed fist, they can't bite you. That way, they can either step up or not. If they lunge or try to bite, I just push the back of my hand at them to show I'm not scared. Neither bird has bitten me since doing that. Now, I'm completely confident with them

Dominic's cage is outside, so it's going to take a bit of earth moving to get him indoors to work with. We've all been feeding him treats through the cage and trying to get him to let us touch his bill and head. Sometimes it works. He's a lot better with my son than he is with me or my daughter. I'd hoped he might interact with the Lovebirds, who live right beside him, but he has no interest whatsoever. The kids and I are going to bring him in tomorrow and let him loose in the house. We'll see what happens then.

What treats do you give Jackie? I've been giving Dominic grass heads and milk thistles and dandelion leaves. If I give him, say, carrot, he just drops it on the floor and poops on it!
 
Thank You , for giving a good home to some birds in need. many of us can't take on any more rescues and are here (on the forum) to help out the folks who do. Thank you. thank you, to you and the hubby.
 
I wasn't really sure where I should post this, but Off Topic seemed like a good spot I guess... Anyways, for those who are interested, here's Jackie's story and how he came to own me :)

It started in December, last year...a friend of mine, L, posted a picture of Jackie on Facebook asking if anyone knew what kind of parrot he was. After several google searches I concluded he might be a Mexican red headed amazon (I later learned he is actually a Tucuman Amazon)...at that point L called me and explained he belonged to her elderly mother in law who was suffering from Alzheimer's. There was also a yellow crowned kakariki, Sparky...the birds belonged to her husband who had passed away a few years ago. The birds had been moved from the living room to a back bedroom, where for a few years they received minimal interaction and care. L asked if when the time came to rehome them if we would adopt them. We said yes, but requested a visit to the home to assess the situation. We were able to visit that same day, after driving an hour to pay them a visit we saw a dire situation. Both birds in dirty cages, dirty floors, dirty covers, overgrown nails, the works... My heart sank. We wanted to load them up right then and there, but she said no. The owner wasn't able to tell me anything about the birds; genders, ages, species- all unknown to her thanks to the Alzheimer's. Thank goodness the cages were labeled with their names. When we got home I called L and let her know that their situation was worse than I thought and they should be removed as soon as possible and given a home where they could receive proper care, interaction, and a clean environment. L said that when the time comes, she would call me.

Two months passed; I worried for the birds...but then L called me and said her MIL had been moved out of her home and into a relative's and the birds were still there, with a neighbor coming over to feed and water them. We got the ok to drive down and get them. We made the trip, and Jackie's cage was bigger than I remembered and almost didn't fit in the back of our suv. We got home and got them set up in their new home and let them be.
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what happened to the other parrot? did you take him home with you too? or find a home for him?
 

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