Any breeders will not allow visitation as they operate from their home.All of them want people to adopt from them without seeing a bird in person.They only send pictures and expect prospective people to put down money without actually seeing a parrot in person.Non-refundable if a bad fit.I have no idea how anybody adopts a parrot the way breeders are and also pet stores with parrots.Buying from a private individual to rehome a bird,is taking a risk of a scam.As I said many times PARROT RESCUES ARE ALSO IMPOSSIBLE ONLY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE LIVING IN APTS AND AGE DISCRINATION.If anybody here knows or has a suggestion on how to adopt parrots, I would love to hear from you.
It is impossible anymore to adopt any Parrot.The Parrot Breeders do not allow visitations as they operate from their home and do not allow visitation.They all want money down with no possible way to see the bird that one is adopting.Buying from a private owner,you do not know if it is a scam or not that they actually have a bird with some copying pictures from other sites of birds.This is true with some classifieds and Craigslist.DONT TRY RESCUES EITHER AS THEY DO NOT ADOPT OUT TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APTS.ALSO I ACCUSE MOST WITH AGE DISCRIMINATION.My latest issue is with a breeder from a flea market.I have asked her how soon she will have baby Indian Ringnecks and she says soon all the time,this has been going on for several weeks.I asked her how one sees the parrot to adopt and she says she would send out pictures.She has too small a booth to bring the babies.AGAIN,HOW DO I KNOW IF I WILL HAVE A GOOD FIT WITHOUT SEEING WHAT I AM ADOPTING?????All have a non-refundable deposit and no refunds after a parrot has been purchased.So if the parrot you adopt is not a good fit,you lose the deposit and all the money you put into the bird.I do not know how to adopt any parrot anymore because of the reasons I have given.My local pet store is ridiculous with their pricing.$700-900 just for a cage suitable for Ringnecks.Pricing for Ringnecks when they have them is around $2000.That is the lowest price.Other pet stores I have seen are too far away for me to travel. Out of state of Florida shipping by air.Again not knowing what you are getting.Craigslist I have tried,and most are either too far away or will not accept paypal.Paypal will not charge fees if you mark purchase from a friend or relative which I have tried to explain to everyone.All that is needed to open an account is just an email and password.Paypal links up to any bank account.IT IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PURCHASE OR ADOPT A PARROT FROM ANYWHERE ANYMORE UNLESS YOU PUT MONEY DOWN SIGHT UNSEEN. williampatte.
Okay, let's tone down the attacks on rescues a bit.
It's fine to share your experiences with rescues, but please don't tell everyone not to adopt from a rescue. Not all rescues are good, but I believe that most are and I don't think that they should all be painted with the same brush.
One of my close friends runs a rescue, and she will only adopt smaller birds to someone who lives in an apartment, and it requires the landlord's permission and a home visit. The home visit is done on people who live in a house as well. She wants to see where they're going.
She also won't adopt out a bird to someone that the bird is likely to outlive. This isn't ageism, this is caring for the birds whose lives she is responsible for. Our Cockatoo came from her rescue, and will more than likely live longer than me or my husband. My younger Amazon probably will as well. I already have a plan in place that if something happened to both my husband and myself, she will come and get all of my birds and find homes for them through her rescue. I feel relief from that because I know the level of care she puts into finding good homes.
People do get evicted if their bird is too loud, or just because the landlord changes his mind about the bird with the next lease. That happened to my husband and I. Fortunately we were able to buy a house and keep all the birds, but it just as easily could have gone the other way.
One of the women in the bird club had lived for years in the same apartment with no issues. She got a new neighbour, and because of all the complaints from the new neighbour she was evicted and had to rehome all but one of her birds.
It has also happened to members here in the past who live in the states.
I also wanted to mention that I had both a Senegal and an IRN, and I can tell you that the IRN was much louder than the Senegal. I could hear him through 3 floors in our last house, as well as hearing him when standing outside the house. While all birds of the same species aren't alike, I know that we couldn't have kept our IRN in an apartment because of the noise, while the Sennie would have been fine.
All breeders are not alike, as I mentioned in one of my PMs to you. Most here do not allow people in the aviary because the risk of illness being spread is too high. Some will Facetime so you can see the babies, others will send pictures. Some may agree to meet you with their babies. Some will allow you into the aviary, but these are ones that I personally wouldn't ever get a baby from because of the risk of illness. You just may have to look harder than usual until you find the right breeder for you.
We also have bird shows here where people sell their babies, not as big as the expos mentioned, I'm sure, but there are still many birds there.
I also wanted to mention that because of the method of payments you want to use, that may cut down your chances of buying a bird unless it's from a pet shop.
I don't know any breeder or person rehoming their bird who takes credit cards or Paypal as payment. I'm in Canada and things could be different where you are, but up here, it is cash or E-transfer, neither of which is reversible.
Paypal tends to usually side with the buyer, and I can't imagine that there are many breeders who would want to take the chance of that with a live animal when anything could happen to the bird once it's out of their care.
I'm not saying that you would let something happen to the bird, but accidents do happen to us all.
Many of my birds have come from Kijiji, which is like Craig's List there. We went out to the person's house and brought them home with us. Most did not choose us - they were too scared to choose anyone. But with love, time and patience they have now chosen us. They needed a home and we had a home to give them, and no matter what condition they were in or if they bit us we still brought them home. Many of my birds would bite a stranger coming into their room, but they are still fantastic birds. Birds also have off days, and shouldn't be judged on that. I know many people want the bird to choose them, but I have found that it can also work even if we are the ones who choose them.
There are also many members here who have adopted birds from other members, most of the time only seeing them in pictures.
There are birds out there to adopt, but it may require loosening up some of the requirements that you're putting on adopting them. Totally your choice, of course, but I thought I'd mention it.
William, I truly hope you can find a bird, and I think that checking Craig's List every day in the cities around you may bring you the best results. There will be scammers, but their answers back to you about their bird (that probably doesn't exist) are usually written so that it's pretty obvious that it's a scam. You can feel free to post their messages here because we have seen so many over the years that we may be able to tell whether they are a scammer or not.
Now, I think it's time to get Blueberry's thread back on track.
Blueberry, when people put a higher cost to adopt out their bird, the bird more than likely comes with a cage, toys and food. Sometimes they want to keep them out of the hands of flippers by listing a higher price. Other times, they want to ask enough so that not just anyone takes in their bird. A lot of times, people may drop the price if they feel you are a good fit for their bird.
I just want you to be able to see it from their position when it comes how much they ask for their bird.
