Import laws?

[Brisch]

Does anyone know the laws of importing a bird from the UK to Canada? I know the laws from USA to Canada, and they make me cringe. Ive been told it may be easier to import from the UK. I have been looking for a Ducorps Cockatoo for over 5 years now. There are non available in North America, so Im now forced to look into the UK laws. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[weco]

It seems this might be a good place to start as it appears you'll be dealing with them at some point: Parrot Travel » Regulations

From just a cursory look around, it may not be a speedy process and wherever the bird comes from you'll need quite a bit of verifiable documentation & veterinary certification.....

Good luck.....

 

[Brisch]

I'm willing to do what needs to be done, unless there's an excessive quarantine, as I don't thing that's fair for the bird. But trying to find out how to do this on the up and up is a royal pain in the rear. No one seems to know or wants to give you an answer

 

[kalypso123]

Ducorps are so pretty. Good luck finding one. I know there are a few breeders in the U.S but I dont know if they ship to Canada or not.

 

[kalypso123]

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These are a few breeders that I found. The second link is in New Jersey and the first link is in Florida.

 

[weco]

You might want to contact an importing agency, one that deals with importing.....a number of years ago, I was involved in a business that temporarily imported equipment & materials into various Canadian provinces for exhibition functions, then shipped the materials back to the states...we used an import/export agent to handle the various import/export documents.....all we needed to do was deliver the equipment to the specified port of entry and arrange for its outbound/export shipment & our agent took care of everything necessary to Canadian laws/regulations and getting the proper documents to the proper offices on time, a task that can be daunting at best, though we were never challenged with animals.....

Good luck.....

 

[henpecked]

I might have missed something but there's a basic fact that's missing. As far as importing CITES listed parrots,, generally you can only import a (meaning one) personal pet bird. Generally you can't import a bird from another country just because you're buying it as a pet. If you lived in the UK you could bring a CITES listed pet WITH you when you moved to Canada. I think there might be some.confusion when you ask about importing parrots. Only a personal pet when you move, and that's not true with all country's. I'm pretty up on CITES but mostly with regards to the US.
PS. There's a few MM2 breeders. I know of one but can't recall his name right now. Here in Fla. I have seen several in rescues . also. Pretty sure you could find one here but the same CITES laws apply. If you owned property here you might be able to get around it.

 

[Brisch]

ok from what Ive gathered is:
to import from the UK
-you need to have CITES (Which I knew)
-You need to have Import and Export permits from country of origin and destination
-you must accompany the bird on its journey
-there is a required 45 day quarantine

to import from the states
-CITES permit
-Import and export permit
-health certificate from both countries
-Must accompany the bird across the border (which is easy, I live 20 mins from the border)
-Border inspection, if they feel the bird is healthy and you have all paper work then your free to go, if they dont feel the bird is healthy, then its a 90 day quarantine

Im wondering If I have all my CITES ect, but someone else, who doesnt have birds (that I know) were to care for the bird for 90 days will eliminate the need for quarantine. Which if I owned the bird for 90 days prior to moving it would. I am contacting both sides of the border to see what each side requires. YOU ARE PERMITTED to import a bird as a pet, thats the only way they allow importation, you have to be able to prove you still own the bird if they decide to check up at any point. I am willing to take on a rescue as all my birds are rescues, but most rescues
a. will not ship.
b. will not adopt a bird out of state, which I assume means out of country either.

I was only asking to see if anyone had done it and what they had to do, to do it right.

 

[Mekaisto]

Hey, at least you don't live in Australia or NZ
I don't have anything helpful to add, but good luck!

 

[Brisch]

You make it sound like living there is a bad thing, Ill trade you living locations for a couple months

Hey, at least you don't live in Australia or NZ
I don't have anything helpful to add, but good luck!

 

[henpecked]

I think they mean you can't import many species of parrots into N Z or Australia at all. Regardless if they're family pets with CITES export permits.

 

[Mekaisto]

There is a complete ban on importing birds (and most other animals) into Australia.
If you take your pet budgie out of the country, and try to get back in, there's a chance it won't be granted an import permit :/

I can understand why, but it's still frustrating!

 

[RavensGryf]

I don't know about the laws, but are you absolutely certain there are no breeders in all of Canada?
Ducorps are available in the US, but I've also heard it's near impossible to get birds into Canada from here. Good luck.

 

[Brisch]

There hasnt been a Ducorps breeder in Canada in 25 years, and unfortunately birds are losing there footing here because of the strict rules and regulations. Soon there wont be many breeders left as they can no longer acquire unrelated breeding stock. As much as many people are against breeders, you need them, or people will get them other ways which we dont want them doing. People used to be able to take their birds on vacation with them, now it simply isnt possible. I completely understand why they've made the rules but I think they are slightly over powering.