I have found people over conscious about birds.

[Intisar]

I have found people over conscious about birds. being over conscious may cant be good for them. Never forget that birds are trained already by nature. filters, protectors are fixed in the birds by nature.
the birds who are not pets and live on their own in woods, they don't have any birds forum to consult about their lives and livings.
take good care of them but don't be over conscious.
I am witness of this thing that birds, parrots don't eat the things which are harmful or not good for them. keep yourself easy and ur bird too

 

[noodles123]

I get what you mean.... but.....

1. Parrots don't need filters when they live in open air-space because outdoors in the places where parrots live naturally tend to have better air quality (unlike a home where people use all sorts of unnatural stuff inside- captivity is totally unnatural for them). That having been said, birds living near certain factories do die from the chemicals and insecticides etc also kill them in the wild when they encounter them, as does smoke from wild-fires and extreme pollution.

2. Birds DO eat things that are harmful for them all of the time (and die from it). It happens very commonly--especially in captivity where they are exposed to more dangerous temptations than would be available in the wild.

3. Birds in the wild have a different immune system because of the fact that they survived a lot when they were young (many died and didn't make it to adulthood). Survival of the fittest-------you only see the ones that survive, but MANY wild birds die on a daily basis. Breeding, captivity and veterinary intervention allow young birds to survive things that would kill them in the wild. A bird in captivity gets antibiotics for infection, while a bird in the wild would either die, or survive if lucky...Captive birds have different internal flora and less resistance to bacteria etc. They also do not eat the same diet that they would have in the wild. For my bird to do that, I would need to live in Indonesia and we would have to drive 40 miles a day while making stops for her to forage along a 40 mile path (as she would in the wild). Not possible. Similarly, the humidity etc in a home is not the same as it would be in their native/outdoor environment....Nor is the climate or even lighting (sunlight vs indoor lighting changes A LOT of things----including bacteria etc).

4. Outside of this forum, I find that most people are unconscious of their birds needs (health, mental, housing etc).

5. Birds in the wild often die well before their life expectancy (due to disease, famine, climate, and human interference). To say that they survive in the wild is to negate the thousands that don't survive in the wild. Unless you are scouring the forest floor for dead birds, you aren't going to see the dead ones.

 

[GaleriaGila]

Thanks for sharing your viewpoint.

Meanwhile... 'what Noodles said!'

 

[Laurasea]

Parrot in their natural habitat in nature that they evolved in , is much much different than captivity.

Parrots in the wild are raised by their parrents, taught to forage, what to eat , then they hsv the support of their family and flock, and mate. They are active Dawn to dusk, flying, climbing, foraging. They get to make choices, choices if what they want, were they want to go, most if those choices are taken away in captivaty.
Their are no man-made chemicals.

 

[SailBoat]

I hear what you are saying and can understand the view point.

But, after years of new members providing Threads, which speak of their very sick Parrots and need help as they are located long distances from Avian Medical Support, it leaves one little choice but to see that not taking additional care to prevent illness has merit.

We have a very long history of working with older Amazons who come to us very ill, likely abused, and a want to never trust another Human. This group commonly have a high likelihood of becoming ill from minor issues. Thus exceeding common cautions become a must. It also, clearly defines the advantage that playing it safe works. Because rushing to an Avian Professional in the early morning hours is no joy.

We have loss more than our fair share of Amazon over the years, which is a reality of the group of Amazons we work with. The loss never becomes easier as they quickly become members of our family.

We play it safe, because we wish to provide each Amazon a longer life.

Medical costs: A Sick Parrot becomes expensive very quickly. The cost of being 'overly careful' is but a tiny cost in comparison...

 

[ParrotGenie]

Captivity is a way different environment. I let my free flight and even outside and even bring them out during winter months, so not over protective as they still get a good quality of life and not over conscious. Certain stuff can be dangerous and bad for them as inside they are in a enclosed space. Plus in the wild parents teach them what bad and what not and etc. A captive bird doesn't learn this. Plus in the wild being open space way less risk of chemicals and ozone issues and they have space to fly from area.

 

[Intisar]

noodles123 and GaleriaGila
I m thankfull to u both. In April when I entered in the field of birds , I remember u both helped, taught and suggested me a lot. Can't forget this.

And again today u shared great knowledge.

What I wrote was my own view, and definitely I have reviewed my views. Stay blessed n happy