Hey! Concerns with Cheddar the nanday

[TiredOldMan]

The warnings need to be repeated many times!

 

[noodles123]

LOL- I totally misread your post at first though it said, "DON'T need to be repeated that many times"...I was thinking, hey man, I can't delete my post...haha

 

[Sunnyclover]

Cheddar is a girl you guys! Just saying...

 

[ChristaNL]

and "hey man" is just an expression , not a definition of gender.

 

[EllenD]

You might try orange juice with vitamin D added, available in any grocery store. It's sweet birds go nuts for it and the vitamin D is very helpful for them. It's good for their beaks and bones. And the best part is you get to drink most of it yourself. Me and clark share. Or let the bird dunk in OJ. that's also good for them, a good mix of vitamin C and D some natural sugars, other good stuff as well.

I just wanted to caution users against feeding birds foods too high in vitamin c, as it can lead to iron storage disease. That is why citrus fruit consumption is discouraged (only infrequently/in small amounts).
LOL...I just read other comments and saw that EllenD already said this....Oh well...now 2 people saying it lol.

We can't say it enough Noodles, as not many people are even aware of Citrus Fruit/Citric Acid causing the enhanced absorption of Iron by birds; most people don't know that birds cannot handle much Iron either...

 

[AmyMyBlueFront]

However, if I were you, I'd be getting her tested for PBFD, just to be sure. She came from a pet shop, she's having issues growing her feathers, she's not molting correctly, and she may be having issue regulating her body temperature too (this could also just be that she loves to be warm and toasty, just another quirk)...Or the entire problem could very well be related to neurological/psychological issues due to her being Force-Weaned and/or never allowed to fully fledge before she was clipped. I'm almost sure of that one, because that's exactly what happens, they don't know how to fly at all, even when they have the ability to do so. But when a baby is Force-Weaned, clipped before they fledge, etc., they can develop some psychological and neurological issues that basically make them a "perpetual baby" for the rest of their life, hence wanting to be warm all the time and while snuggling, just like "in the nest"....So it's hard to tell whether it's physical, psychological/neurological due to bad breeding/hand-raising/weaning practices, or a combination of the two, but I would definitely get her tested for PBFD, just to be sure...It's good that her tail grew back in, but bad that her wings haven't at all, nor that she hasn't really molted at all...You know they typically go through their first big molt around a year old, so if that isn't happening and she doesn't preen herself at all, it's quite possible that she has some developmental problems...


Unfortunately,that is EXACTLY what happened with Amy I'm afraid..I doubt the poor girl will EVER learn to fly at this point....



Jim

 

[YUMgrinder]

So I'm sure you remember my equally "dirpy" (and mentally challenged)Nanday named Finley and how he was rehomed to an Avian Refuge. After about 2 months I decided to take him back home for the duration of his life on this Earth as I could not bare to live without him and the way he acted when I would visit was clear to me I'm AM the one he wants to be with and things have been going better ever since! Just thought I'd update you.
Anyways, back to Cheddar. Finley was force weaned and not fledged (my vet and I suspect) and he has many problems stemming from this also. He doesn't preen himself properly and even though I bath him every day he is pretty smelly. He has lost his feathers and regrown all of them and he's just over a year old. I strongly suspect something is wrong with Cheddar because she should have regrown her feathers long ago...even maybe twice. The heat lamp thing could just be something she likes but it's also a strong possibility she is not well. Please take her to a vet immediately because if it were my Finley I'd be scared he is not regulating his temperature properly and might be nearing the end of his life. Good luck! Let us know what happens.

I do remember you! we had some talks about how alike our birds were, and it appears we have the same type of problem, well.. similar. I believe these problems with cheddar are from too early taking her out of the nest. She sleeps a lot, and eats even more, and she seems happy for the most part. When shes awake she is active and can get to where she wants quickly so shes not weak. I can deal with the dirpiness, but now with the added weight lose, it is time to see a doc. It just so happens she has an apt today in like an hour! I'll update! I am so glad you have finley back! Oh, and I can get a video of her bobbing her head. It's a new thing she does when we look and talk to her, she slowly bobs her head up and down, doesn't stop. just does it everytime we speak or hold her. I almost liken to it someone partially blind has to use perefreal(?) vision and has to move their eyes around to get a good picture... you know? Is she going blind too?! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Thanks everyone for your advice, I read them all and am considering all options. Lets see what the vet says!

 

[YUMgrinder]

However, if I were you, I'd be getting her tested for PBFD, just to be sure. She came from a pet shop, she's having issues growing her feathers, she's not molting correctly, and she may be having issue regulating her body temperature too (this could also just be that she loves to be warm and toasty, just another quirk)...Or the entire problem could very well be related to neurological/psychological issues due to her being Force-Weaned and/or never allowed to fully fledge before she was clipped. I'm almost sure of that one, because that's exactly what happens, they don't know how to fly at all, even when they have the ability to do so. But when a baby is Force-Weaned, clipped before they fledge, etc., they can develop some psychological and neurological issues that basically make them a "perpetual baby" for the rest of their life, hence wanting to be warm all the time and while snuggling, just like "in the nest"....So it's hard to tell whether it's physical, psychological/neurological due to bad breeding/hand-raising/weaning practices, or a combination of the two, but I would definitely get her tested for PBFD, just to be sure...It's good that her tail grew back in, but bad that her wings haven't at all, nor that she hasn't really molted at all...You know they typically go through their first big molt around a year old, so if that isn't happening and she doesn't preen herself at all, it's quite possible that she has some developmental problems...


Unfortunately,that is EXACTLY what happened with Amy I'm afraid..I doubt the poor girl will EVER learn to fly at this point....



Jim

I do believe this to be the case too. She tries to flap but has no knowledge at all on this "flying" and what these dang wings are for?

 

[YUMgrinder]

The vet kept her for the afternoon so they can take blood. hopefully they can get answers for me by tomorrow!

 

[YUMgrinder]

Well. This is shocking. Cheddar died after taking blood samples.

 

[clark_conure]

posted in other new thread. ALL of our hearts go out to you. It's not your fault.

 

[TiredOldMan]

I am so sorry to hear this and sorry for your loss.