formula rejects Sunconure...(6weeks)

[sollahan]

Hi!
I'm worried about my Buddy. Can you guys help me out?

My little has been born six weeks (46 days).
He 125g, can fly 2m.(very energetic.)

recent days, he doesn't eat more than 5ml once a feed.
(It takes about 30~50 minutes to do this. he's too distracted)
He can't chew solids yet.
* formula is 38 ~41°/ house is 31~32°

His stomach very healthy!!
(chest gets flat in about 3 hours, no lumps or stagnant food left in his chest.
and I always tried not to produce air-bubbles in his chest)
His poo also a very healthy too.


I try feeding, he walk and fly around playing.
and spits out the formula using tongue. (Not vomiting)

His chest is flattened every 3 hours, so I feeding every 4 hours.
But he hates formulas more and more.

He doesn't lose weight, but i worried about his stress.

He sometimes begs me for food.
But when I feed formula, he say NOOOOOO!!


So my efforts:

-Soak grains + pellets in warm water or formula.
(he can't chew, they all flow out of his beak)

-Cut the fruits into sizes pellets.
(Apple, pear, grape, banana, kiwi, etc.. He likes this.
However, him 2~3 minutes to chew and swallow a 1 bite.......
In this way, even after an eternal time, he cannot be full.)

-Peed formula every 4 hours, ignoring his stress.


no medical problem with my bird.
Nevertheless, he doesn't eat formula.
Is it okay to let eat too little? What should I do?


I disinfect all formula tool in boiling water every time.
And i never mistaked in controlling the formula temperature.

Tell me how can help him.....ಥ_ಥ

 

[foxgloveparrot]

Hi! Another member has posted a thread about a conure refusing formula, so I'm sure you can find some advice from there:

5 week old GCC refusing formula

I recently got a green cheek conure. I brought him home at 4 weeks and hes a little over 5 weeks old. I have been feeding him veta farm neocare formula and he's been eating it properly (5 feeds per day of 2 tablespoons-full making sure the crop isnt too full and streching out as per instructions...

www.parrotforums.com

Of course, you will get plenty of help from this thread as well.

 

[LaManuka]

Welcome to the Forums, sollahan and your baby Sun.

Unfortunately it seems that your baby bird was sold to you far too young - this is not your fault as sadly many breeders and sellers appear to be more keen on making a sale than they are about the bird's welfare. Your predicament seems very similar to that of another member who has also just joined our community today, so I will share the same posts and links with you as I did with them, in hope that it will help you...

Best thing you can do it get him fully weaned and ready for a long life as effectively and safely as possible.
One good way to start is mixing up formula and putting it into a dish in his cage and monitor that he is actually eating some by himself as otherwise you will need to continue syringe feeding.
Another key and probably the most important tip is feeding palatable foods that he likes. Soft foods like bananas, peas, corn, steamed carrots are all excellent ways to get him onto an adult diet. Softened pellets in water too and even some commercial dry egg and biscuit mix powder would be beneficial

Along the way in the next couple weeks, ensure to monitor his progress and reduce the syringe feeds slowly until you eventually are able to Eliminate formula completely in a few weeks

Best of luck, keep us updated with his progress!

And another resource written by a very experienced member here that may have some info that will help you...

So you bought an unweaned baby...

Today I spent several hours trying to help someone save a baby bird they had purchased unweaned. The baby died; they are usually almost dead by the time the new owner realizes something is wrong, not because the owner doesn't care but because they are not educated about what to look for or...

www.parrotforums.com

...and here is a link to the whole thread, as there were a number of other responses from our wonderful members that you may find useful too...

Refusing formula

My baby sunconure which is 6 weeks is trying to avoid its hand feeding formula But it is very active and playful Help wanted!!!! Reply soon!!

www.parrotforums.com

Personally I would be enlisting the help of a certified avian vet (NOT a dog and cat type vet) for support too. Understanding that I'm not sure of your location or availability of avian vets, the following link may help you to find one......

https://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803

Thank you so much for joining, and I wish you and your precious baby all the very best!

 

[sollahan]

포럼에 온 걸 환영해, 솔라한과 너의 아기 선.

불행히도 당신의 아기 새는 너무 어린 나이에 당신에게 팔린 것 같다 - 안타깝게도 많은 사육자와 판매자들이 새의 복지에 대한 것보다 판매를 더 열망하고 있는 것처럼 보이기 때문에 이것은 당신의 잘못이 아니다. 당신의 곤경도 오늘 우리 커뮤니티에 방금 들어온 다른 멤버와 매우 비슷한 것 같으니, 나는 그들과 같은 게시물과 링크를 공유하여 당신에게 도움이 되기를 바라며...



그리고 여기 아주 경험이 많은 회원이 작성한 또 다른 자료에는 당신을 도울 수 있는 정보가 있을 겁니다.

So you bought an unweaned baby...

Today I spent several hours trying to help someone save a baby bird they had purchased unweaned. The baby died; they are usually almost dead by the time the new owner realizes something is wrong, not because the owner doesn't care but because they are not educated about what to look for or...

www.parrotforums.com

...그리고 여기 전체 실에 대한 연결고리가 있는데, 우리 훌륭한 회원들로부터도 많은 다른 응답들이 있었기 때문에, 당신도 유용하다고 느낄지도 모른다...

Refusing formula

My baby sunconure which is 6 weeks is trying to avoid its hand feeding formula But it is very active and playful Help wanted!!!! Reply soon!!

www.parrotforums.com

개인적으로 나는 또한 지원을 받기 위해 공인된 조류 수의사(개와 고양이 유형의 수의사가 아님)의 도움을 받을 것이다. 당신의 위치나 조류 퇴치기의 이용가능성이 확실치 않다는 것을 이해한다면, 다음 링크가 당신이 그 곳을 찾는 데 도움이 될 것이다...

https://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803

가입해줘서 정말 고맙고, 너와 너의 소중한 아기가 잘 되길 바래!

Thank you! I live in a country where there are few medical facilities to treat birds. That's I came to this overseas site. English is not my first language. Therefore, my words may be clumsy. I've already searched these posts, but I'll look at them again. I was touched by your kindness.

 

[LaManuka]

Hello again sollahan. Can I assume by your last message that you are in South Korea? If so, I've found a number of vet services that may be able to help you out...

Yoon Ju Choi
Uiwang Shi
Kyeonggi Do
16009
Korea, South
Phone: 82-31-424-7580

Sungryong Kim
Chungbuk National University Veterinary Hospital
Seowon-gu, chungdaero1
Cheongju-si
Chungcheongbuk-do
28644
Korea, South

Tae-min Kim
Seoul
House
04913
Korea, South
Phone:+82-10-5345-0416

Moonhee Lee
Veterinarian
Seoul
South Korea
07040 Korea, South
01086225190 (Phone)

Seong Chan Yeon
1 Gwanak-ro, Gwanak-gu,
Gwanak-gu
Seoul
Seoul
08826 Korea, South
82-10-9107-9173 (Phone)

Hopefully one of these may be able to help, or recommend someone closer to you if you are not near them. If they are unable to assist, you could also ask the breeder or seller you got him from for some advice and support too. I hope this information helps you and your baby!

 

[Laurasea]

Hi, welcome.
What does the bird eat in his own?
Can you post a picture of your bird, and a picture of his poop..
If he is flying, he us probably close to or is weaning himself.
That said, he should be able to eat and swallow food with no issues. A fully feathered baby that can fly, should be able to crack seeds, and eat veggies.

This seems like a medical issue to me. It can be regurgitating which is passive and not like vomiting .

I recently had a sick adult bird who wasn't eating firm foods and who regurgitate when I tried support feeding of baby bird formula. And who would regurgitate food she ate on her own. She had a yeast overgrowth in her crop, because she had been on antibiotics for an infection.

Its pretty common for baby birds in formula to develop a yeast overgrowth.

Mine required nystatin a medicine from the veterinarian to treat the yeast overgrowth. Its one of the antifungal medications. I also fed her a spoonful of plain Greek yogurt, that I feel helps balance flora in the GI system. A little Greek yogurt won't be harmful to your bird, some people think it doesn't really do anything to help, while others like myself have found it does help. Mine fully recovered with the antifungal treatment. No longer let's food drop from her mouth or regurgitate.

Its also very common to get a bacterial infection in crop of babies being hand fed. Which would need antibiotics to treat.

And its possible a crop burn may have happened.

What you described makes me think there is some sort of inflammation in crop, either yeast or bacterial, or injured from a pocket of too hot food . All common things that can go wrong in hand fed babies at any point in raising them.

I feel your bird should be seen by an avian veterinarian.

 

[Laurasea]

A good resource

Hand Feeding Problems & Possible Solutions – arizonaparrots.com

arizonaparrots.com

Another resource, I do not fully agree with some parts. But does have information

Uncommon Problems with Hand-Feeding

. Please Uncommon Problems with Hand-Feeding How to avoid them, such as Overstretched Crop, Slow/Sour Crop, Crop Burn, Stunting... The information contained within this article is meant to acquaint...

www.ask-noodles.com

 

[Laurasea]

A weaning article. If you can't access and read this article please let me know. And I will copy paste important parts.

Weaning Baby Birds

by Pat Pecora

www.exoticpetvet.com