Eyes not straight

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Is it ok for my grey's pupils not to be centred? I have three greys, and two of them have the pupil in the centre and a fairly equal amount of white all round them. But one has the pupils near the back, with more white exposed at the front, like a human eye would be if you were looking to one side. But I can't get any of them to move the pupil by looking at me at a different angle, so I'm wondering if they even move them like we do.

Picture from a year ago:

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Picture from now:

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That isn't as pronounced as I saw him earlier today. Earlier, there was about 5x the white at the front than the back. Maybe he was just sleepy? It does look like his eyelids are more closed. Has anyone else noticed the eye changing in their grey?
 
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It is very difficult (from a photo) to determine the position of the eye as the reference point has to be perpendicular to the eye. Any variation from straight on will place the eye off-center.

Also, Parrots can change /shift their eye within the socket. Again, it is very difficult to tell from a photo.

At eye level and looking centered from side, the position of the eye should be mostly centered with a slight shift depending on what they may be looking at. Perfection is difficult to catch /see.
 
It's very easy to see in the photo, that's exactly what I see in real life, not sure why you have difficulty looking at photos. You're seeing what I saw when I looked at him.

But it was moreso first thing, seems to be worse when he's just woken up. He seems to have more eyelid than the others, looking at his old photo, he used to be like the others. Is more (thicker) eyelid something to be worried about?

I couldn't get any of the three greys to move their eyeballs like we do. They appeared to be paying attention to me, but don't bother moving their eyes, as though they don't have a central more sensitive area of the retina like us.
 
You're very right, I must not be seeing what you're seeing. That said, I used a right angle to set the center of the eye and used an adjustable triangle to project camera angle.

Anyway, contact your Certified Avian Vet and request a visit or a visit with an eye specialist.
 
The picture angle and lighting is sl different between the two pics. I can the bottom eyeball is sl different shape. I can't tell from pic if it's a bit of swelling around pupil or the shadowing. The lighting isn't good that way. You sound like me. I do everything except keep exact count of my CAG's downy feathers lost daily! Contact your vet avian vet to make sure!
 

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