Chosen Pyrrhura, but I need help with it please

[MapleMatt]

UHi guys, after the research Ill probably go for some Pyrrhura spiecie. I want to thanx everyone who was involved in helping me with the choice. I have yet a small weekness for Lori, but know nothing about the keeping. At first, Id like to ask which Pyrrhura would You recommend, better in latin names and if there is some literature dedicated solely to this specie. I would like to ask how big enclosure is fair enough inhouse, during the summer I think I could provide a big cage outside, but the rest of the year is not that hot in Czech, so Id like to know indoor cage parameters, if possible in cm(but ofcourse I can google the US sizes and convert I would like to know where exactly should I start searching to know as much as possible about these parrots. With the particular choice...the noise is not an issue at all as we live in a rural area where is already fair enough noise from animals, so one parrot wont do any harm Id like to know, when choosing the particular parrot, what should I check on the particular one, as I guess I could as a new to parrots easily make a mistake in choice. Last question...are they capable to talk?(a bit ofcourse)
Many thanx in advance and wish me good luck with my pick the only two parrots which may turn me off the pyrrhura is Poicephalus species, but Im wandering what would be the main difference between keeping each of this species

 

[LordTriggs]

any pyyhura species will be fine, they're all very similar to each other save for very slight size differences and colours. As for a cage I would go for about 50CM for both width and depth. Bar spacing you would want a space up to 125mm. As for literature on them I found it best just looking in the conure forum here, there's so much hands on experience and different opinions and ideas that you can use

 

[chris-md]

Any of the pyrrhura conures would be a great choice. Temperament wise there’s not going to be different among the species, though as always individuals will vary.

At this point the best option is to go visit some of the different species and get to know the individual birds. Visit the breeders. That’s another thing: you’ll likely be limited by what you have available to you as far as breeders.

If you visiting a breeder is not an option but you can have the birds shipped, the species differences are going to be so small that you might as well choose the conure species who’s color you like the best.

 

[Kiwibird]

You're the one visiting a bird show aren't you?

I'm glad you've been doing further research and think you've made a great choice for a first bird! I'll leave the cage recommendations up to people with more experience with the species. In general, when choosing a bird you want to look for an active, bright eyed individual (i.e. looks generally healthy). The bird should be fully weaned and have been eating solid foods on it's own for several weeks at least. DO NOT buy from a vendor/breeder selling unweaned babies who are still requiring any hand feedings no matter what crap they spin about "bonding better" and how easy it is. It's not true and dangerous to the bird. A weaned baby will bond just as easily if not more easily than unweaned. We've had a rash of sick/dying baby birds on here lately sold by disreputable individuals to inexperienced new owners with no idea how to hand feed (or the difficulty involved).

Ideally, the bird will kind of "choose you", meaning one may be more friendly than the others or show more interest in you, or perhaps there will be an individual that stands out to you for some reason like really playful or pretty colors. It's hard to describe, but when you've found the right bird, you'll definitely know it! Kind of a 'love at first sight' thing. As for talking, any individual has the *potential* to talk a little bit, but that doesn't mean every individual will. There is no way to tell with a newly weaned baby if it'll be a big talker or not (unless it is already saying stuff), but most baby birds who will speak start doing so within the first year of life. After that, it's iffy to highly unlikely they will ever speak. Those who do though can continue learning new words throughout their life. If your bird isn't a talker, that's ok too. Mine isn't but he makes a variety of adorable bird noises I rather enjoy more than hearing him shout the same human word over and over and over.

Good luck to you!

 

[MapleMatt]

You're the one visiting a bird show aren't you?

I'm glad you've been doing further research and think you've made a great choice for a first bird! I'll leave the cage recommendations up to people with more experience with the species. In general, when choosing a bird you want to look for an active, bright eyed individual (i.e. looks generally healthy). The bird should be fully weaned and have been eating solid foods on it's own for several weeks at least. DO NOT buy from a vendor/breeder selling unweaned babies who are still requiring any hand feedings no matter what crap they spin about "bonding better" and how easy it is. It's not true and dangerous to the bird. A weaned baby will bond just as easily if not more easily than unweaned. We've had a rash of sick/dying baby birds on here lately sold by disreputable individuals to inexperienced new owners with no idea how to hand feed (or the difficulty involved).

Ideally, the bird will kind of "choose you", meaning one may be more friendly than the others or show more interest in you, or perhaps there will be an individual that stands out to you for some reason like really playful or pretty colors. It's hard to describe, but when you've found the right bird, you'll definitely know it! Kind of a 'love at first sight' thing. As for talking, any individual has the *potential* to talk a little bit, but that doesn't mean every individual will. There is no way to tell with a newly weaned baby if it'll be a big talker or not (unless it is already saying stuff), but most baby birds who will speak start doing so within the first year of life. After that, it's iffy to highly unlikely they will ever speak. Those who do though can continue learning new words throughout their life. If your bird isn't a talker, that's ok too. Mine isn't but he makes a variety of adorable bird noises I rather enjoy more than hearing him shout the same human word over and over and over.

Good luck to you!

Thanx alot to everyone, I would like to ask yet, if the sun conure is a simmilar specie and how pyrrhura differs from poicephalus which I left in a game yet. I quiet like the Senegal parrot, but not sure what will be a better choice. Thanx in advance

 

[LordTriggs]

Sun conures really have 2 main differences. They're a bit bigger and a whole lot louder! Loud enough to cause permanent hearing damage. I would advise going for pyyhura conures just because they are one of the top rehomed birds purely because of the noise levels

not sure about senegal differences as I've never met one

 

[Kiwibird]

I know quite a few people have them, but the poicephalus family don't seem to make a big "splash" on the forum like other species. I'd suggest you ask about them specifically in the poicephalus subforum. You may also want to reach out to RavensGryf, who is who I think of as the resident poi "expert" and has 2 of the lesser known poi species.

Sun conures are known for being exceptionally loud, but otherwise very similar in temperament to their cousins.