Chick feeding amount need??

[xiaohe1984]

Hi guys, im checking for my friend, he going to get a pair babies right now. the male want probaby about 2 month old, and the female is about 1 month old.. But how much requirement need to feed them and how many time per day. using kaytee Exact powder..

Cos i know only different parrot chick feed different amount.

 

[JerseyWendy]

OH-MY-GOSH! Does your friend know HOW TO handfeed these babies???

The general rule of thumb is 10% of body weight. At that age I'd be feeding them 4 times a day (the little girl perhaps even 5).

Your friend must ensure their crop empties properly before pumping more formula in them. Temperature must be right, and feeding utensils should be sterilized after each feeding.

 

[xiaohe1984]

OH-MY-GOSH! Does your friend know HOW TO handfeed these babies???

The general rule of thumb is 10% of body weight. At that age I'd be feeding them 4 times a day (the little girl perhaps even 5).

Your friend must ensure their crop empties properly before pumping more formula in them. Temperature must be right, and feeding utensils should be sterilized after each feeding.

I also dont know. Cause he say he learn from his friend. So he say no problem.

 

[labell]

Oh goodness I really become afraid for babies when hand feeding is done by someone unfamiliar with it and the MANY many things that can go wrong and kill a baby if not done correctly. Eclectus are one of the most difficult babies to feed. The formula must be the right temp or you can burn their crop which can kill them. If it is too cold they will either refuse to eat or it will harden in the crop and the baby won't be able to digest it again killing the baby.

Please ask your friend to make sure he can be taught to do this correctly there are no room for mistakes.

That food all over the baby girl needs to be cleaned off with warm water. Babies must be kept clean. People wouldn't want their lunch dried all over their face and neither do these babies, it is itchy, uncomfortable and unsanitary.

 

[xiaohe1984]

Oh goodness I really become afraid for babies when hand feeding is done by someone unfamiliar with it and the MANY many things that can go wrong and kill a baby if not done correctly. Eclectus are one of the most difficult babies to feed. The formula must be the right temp or you can burn their crop which can kill them. If it is too cold they will either refuse to eat or it will harden in the crop and the baby won't be able to digest it again killing the baby.

Please ask your friend to make sure he can be taught to do this correctly there are no room for mistakes.

That food all over the baby girl needs to be cleaned off with warm water. Babies must be kept clean. People wouldn't want their lunch dried all over their face and neither do these babies, it is itchy, uncomfortable and unsanitary.

ok i will pass him the msg.. But he may still not consider to take also..

 

[SilverSage]

Ok, this is a sad situation, I think we can agree on that. Anyone who doesn't already know the answers to these questions has no business hand feeding, and the babies are in grave danger.

HOWEVER, the damage has been done, the babies are with this person now, and they need help.

Formula needs to be between 102 and 110 degrees Fahrenheit, which is 38.9 to 43.3 degrees Celsius. Use a "candy thermometer" or "liquid thermometer" to measure it. Never use a microwave, it can leave hot spots that burn the chick badly and lead to death. If you feed below this temp, the crop (the food sack under the neck) will not empty fast enough and the food will rot in there and poison the baby. If you make it too hot, the food will burn the inside of the crop, and a few days later the burn will actually make a hole all the way through the skin so the food runs out. The burns also cause infection which leads to death.

Feed enough formula that the crop is firm, but not hard. Over stuffing the crop makes it lose its strecthy nature which also leads to sour crop and death. Under filling the crop leads to slow digestion, malnutrition, and possibly death. Base the amount of food on how firm th crop is. I am GUSSING that at the age these babies are, they should be fed 3-4 times a day. Start with four feelings at regular times, and go down to three only when the babies refuse to eat.

Feed the formula with a syringe, which needs to be placed into the beak on the LEFT SIDE OF THE BIRD. That is the birds left side, not yours as you face the bird. This angles the food across the tongue and toward the esophagus where it needs to be. Do NOT put any food in the mouth unless the tongue is moving, and fill very slowly. The head may bob, this is good, just be sure not to injur the chick with the tip of the syringe. If you feed too fast or when the tongue is not moving, you may drown the chick in formula which is called aspiration. I have done this, it happens in an instant.

Keep the chicks at a temperature of 75-85 degrees. If they area panting, they are too hot. If they are huddled together and fluffed up, they are too cold. They should be housed together, not apart, and they should be in a container with solid bottom not a grate. They should be kept on pine shavings at least two inches thick which need to be changed every day. Pine SHAVINGS not needles.

The wings should not be clipped until they are at least six months old. Do not restrict their formula to wean them; they will reject formula when it is time. Begin offering other foods now though, for them to play with. Focus on fresh veggies because Eclectus need them! Also, that is what thee are, Eclectus. Please do Internet search for their proper care and raising.

You must sanitize the feeding intruments after each use or the babies will die of bacterial infections. Never heat formula in a microwave. Heat water in a pan and place the jar of mixed formula in the water to heat that way, be sure to stir very well before taking the temp.

 

[SilverSage]

And the babies need to be kept clean as well to prevent bacteria and skin infections, feather loss, itchiness, etc. not being kept clean can lead to plucking, which makes it hard to sell the bird, besides the obvious issues for the bird herself. The crop must empty COMPLETELY once per day, overnight. If it does not empty in 12 hours over night, RUSH THEM TO A VET or they will soon die. Do not wait for the crop to be empty between day time feelings, but it should be mostly empty.

 

[xiaohe1984]

Thanks guys for your commends and sorry for worries.. I ask my frd not to take until the babies is fully wean..

 

[xiaohe1984]

The breeder had share with my friend for the both babies pic. So right now im still guessing they age.. can i say is about 8 weeks old? And fully wean need 10 weeks right?

 

[JerseyWendy]

Eclectus do not wean at 10 weeks, no. Some require 'comfort feeding' even when they're 4-5+ months old.

'Typically' they wean around 16 weeks (for the smaller sub species).

Does the breeder not know the exact hatch date on these 2?

 

[xiaohe1984]

Eclectus do not wean at 10 weeks, no. Some require 'comfort feeding' even when they're 4-5+ months old.

'Typically' they wean around 16 weeks (for the smaller sub species).

Does the breeder not know the exact hatch date on these 2?

I haven ask my friend to ask the breeder. But I tell my friend don't buy first until fully wean.

 

[SilverSage]

If an Eclectus is "weaned" at 10 weeks he has been what is called "force weaned" which basically means "starved until he figured out how to eat other things." This is cruel and damages the bird mentally leading to biting, screaming, and other unpleasant behaviors. If the breeder told your friend 10 weeks he is a bad breeder and your friend will suffer from a very difficult time living with birds he gets from this person.

 

[xiaohe1984]

If an Eclectus is "weaned" at 10 weeks he has been what is called "force weaned" which basically means "starved until he figured out how to eat other things." This is cruel and damages the bird mentally leading to biting, screaming, and other unpleasant behaviors. If the breeder told your friend 10 weeks he is a bad breeder and your friend will suffer from a very difficult time living with birds he gets from this person.

OK noted. Anyway the ekki still with the owner.. So normally a Ekki fully wean take how many weeks?

 

[Flboy]

If an Eclectus is "weaned" at 10 weeks he has been what is called "force weaned" which basically means "starved until he figured out how to eat other things." This is cruel and damages the bird mentally leading to biting, screaming, and other unpleasant behaviors. If the breeder told your friend 10 weeks he is a bad breeder and your friend will suffer from a very difficult time living with birds he gets from this person.

OK noted. Anyway the ekki still with the owner.. So normally a Ekki fully wean take how many weeks?

Eclectus do not wean at 10 weeks, no. Some require 'comfort feeding' even when they're 4-5+ months old.

'Typically' they wean around 16 weeks (for they smaller sub species).

Does the breeder not know the exact hatch date on these 2?

As said, 'Typically' 16 weeks.

 

[xiaohe1984]

If an Eclectus is "weaned" at 10 weeks he has been what is called "force weaned" which basically means "starved until he figured out how to eat other things." This is cruel and damages the bird mentally leading to biting, screaming, and other unpleasant behaviors. If the breeder told your friend 10 weeks he is a bad breeder and your friend will suffer from a very difficult time living with birds he gets from this person.

OK noted. Anyway the ekki still with the owner.. So normally a Ekki fully wean take how many weeks?

Eclectus do not wean at 10 weeks, no. Some require 'comfort feeding' even when they're 4-5+ months old.

'Typically' they wean around 16 weeks (for they smaller sub species).

Does the breeder not know the exact hatch date on these 2?

As said, 'Typically' 16 weeks.

Thanks and noted, Then i will ask my friend to buy after 16 weeks.

 

[xiaohe1984]

Anyway a new update from friend's Breeder. His ekki for both DOB is on 07/02/15 Male, And Female was 09/02/15...

 

[labell]

Anyway a new update from friend's Breeder. His ekki for both DOB is on 07/02/15 Male, And Female was 09/02/15...

Ummm...Those dates haven't gotten here yet.

 

[xiaohe1984]

Anyway a new update from friend's Breeder. His ekki for both DOB is on 07/02/15 Male, And Female was 09/02/15...

Ummm...Those dates haven't gotten here yet.

Havent got them yet. Cos after advice him not to take if u cant handle the babies.

 

[Dopey]

What she meant was the dates say 2015. The DOB (date of birth) can't be the dates you've given UNLESS your DOB means something different in Singapore than in America. Are those delivery dates?

 

[Dopey]

OR does the 07/02/2015 mean the 7th of February 2015 instead of July 2nd 2015?