chet womach

[Henryandjoey]

i would like to know your view of chet womach ive heard lots of positive and negative reviews. some people say that their a waste of money , and being a student i DO NOT have the amount of money:53: at the moment

 

[Featheredsamurai]

I'm also a student and am low on money.
I like birdtricks, they have great information and love birds. I definitely don't like some of their products though. Jamie, Paddy, and Mel are my favorite. I just don't see that much of Chet on their web site to really have a opinion on him. He sends emails but they are very business like and don't connect to you the same why as the blogs.

• I bought training, taming, and tricks and the DVD's told me nothing that I didn't already know. The booklet that came with it had some good info, but still very minimal.

• I've been told that their total transformation course was disappointing.

• I used to get their newsletter but cancelled it after a few months, it's just not worth $40ish a month at all.

• It makes me mad that they sell "feed your flock" for a outrageous price, although recently they put it on "sale". Those pellets are TOPS (Totally organic pellets) and I feel it's very self centered of them to think of making money rather than just selling totally organic for the low price it already is. Because of that many people are missing out on those awesome pellets because they don't know it's the same as "feed your flock".

• Their cookbook is fantastic.

• One day miracles is also great.

Overall I like them, they have useful blogs that I enjoy and am excited to read. And they definitely love birds, there is no question about it. I will always be a little nervous about buying their DVD training programs but they have a good return policy.

 

[Grinder]

The two reasons I never went further than my initial inquiry into their products is their relentless robotic email process that occurs everyday and they act like they just decided to reduce this price and that price. If that wasn't a big enough turn off I do not like the fact that they essentially use starvation as a tactic to get your birds to respond to training with treats.

 

[Featheredsamurai]

The two reasons I never went further than my initial inquiry into their products is their relentless robotic email process that occurs everyday and they act like they just decided to reduce this price and that price. If that wasn't a big enough turn off I do not like the fact that they essentially use starvation as a tactic to get your birds to respond to training with treats.

They don't use starvation. A training diet is getting fed three separate times a day, and right before their next meal they train them when they are starting to get a little hungry. And they still get their foraging toys with food in them, they just aren't getting easy food from a bowl(which is awesome home made fresh foods).

 

[Grinder]

Allowing a bird to become hungry because WE want to train them is not natural in my opinion and they are starving them to a point. Symantics can be used to argue any point, but the fact is they are knowingly taking their birds to that brink.

 

[MonicaMc]

A kid who doesn't get full of food at dinner time is more likely to enjoy icecream than a child who gorges himself on dinner, then has no room for dessert. It's not starvation, it's motivation.

That said, you don't *have* to use foods as a reward, they are generally just the easiest reward to use when training.


Technically, you could say that the Womach brothers are not professional trainers.

Let people watch us try multiple parrot taming techniques on untrained parrots. Let them see what works and what doesn’t, and let them watch as we overcome every challenge a bird throws at us!

They started out training using flooding techniques. They took a technique commonly used by millions of breeders and people, perpetuated it and sold it. They also had ridiculous marketing techniques. The one I hated the most was when they were "barreling over cliffs and swimming with sharks", making it sound extremely dangerous. The reality? They were in a helicopter, flying over cliffs, and swimming with black tipped reef sharks, a species not known to be very dangerous to humans. Much like the nurse shark.



They love birds, and they mean well, but as far as I can tell, they are not certified trainers. You can get the same information, if not better, from well respected trainers for less.