Cardi Bird’s Progress Thread

[Scott]

Fairly common, not necessarily sharpening. Perhaps either cleaning or a repetitive "tic" associated with stress, boredom, etc.

 

[wrench13]

Cleanng it off no doubt. Cant feel good to have a beak full of chop or sweet taters!

 

[mh434]

My YNA does this to clean food off his beak, and/or to signal aggression. I see both daily...

 

[wrench13]

LEarn the body language of your parrot.. thats the way to not get bit. Amazons thankfully have very clear ques to their level of excitement. Over excited 'zons can go over the edge, and bite, even the one they love.
Pinned eye, tail fanned out, body fluffed up = the edge! ANd playing ( destroying ) toys is is not a good time to offer a scratchie - your hand is a good substitute for a toy.

Bit pressure training may be in order here. When Cardie is mouthing a bit to hard, put her on the back of a chair, turn your back on her for a minute. You are excluding her form the 'flock' Most parrots get it quickly. I also tell Salty when he is getting a bit to hard, in a calm voice, EASY EASY and he generally eases off. Not every time, the 'shunning' has to be done again..

 

[CardiBird]

Ok thanks for the information! So today I trie using like a perch to start to try and teach her step up, but she gets so scared that she won’t even take a treat. I guess I still need to give her some time to get used to me. I am in no hurry so I will just continue to give treats to get her used to me.

 

[CardiBird]

Are leather gloves a good or bad idea when training birds?

 

[wrench13]

Generally a bad idea, from what I've read.

 

[CardiBird]

I figured it might be. I’ve been reading and I don’t think Cardi’s aggression is fear based. I think she is territorial and thinks she is the boss. I went in her cage to clean (she was on top) and she raised her wings and charged at me.

 

[Scott]

I figured it might be. I’ve been reading and I don’t think Cardi’s aggression is fear based. I think she is territorial and thinks she is the boss. I went in her cage to clean (she was on top) and she raised her wings and charged at me.

Definitely a territorial response! Might try giving her a special treat that takes a while to eat, such as a piece of millet. Once you have bonded more closely, she will either allow you to conduct "maid service" of her house, or you can first move her to a playpen or stand.

 

[CardiBird]

Cardi’s being a little devil today. She’s chasing the dogs and the cat around the house lol

 

[CardiBird]

She just attacked me. I don’t really know what to do at this point. She charged at me and grabbed my pant leg and did not want to let go and then continued to try and chase me. I got her to step up on a broom handle and put her in her cage and put a blanket over it for time out.

 

[CardiBird]

What should I do in that situation? It’s so weird because I can tell Cardi wants me in the room because she will scream when I leave, but she also doesn’t really want me too close to her.

 

[CardiBird]

She continues to get worse rather than better. She continues to lunge and hold her wings up with her tail fanned out. She’s also starting to scream now and the vet said she didn’t scream at the hospital. It’s hard to give her treats now because she will grab your finger and I don’t care what anybody says she knows what laughing is because she laughs every time she bites.

 

[Scott]

Sorry to hear this. You've had Cardi Bird just about 2 weeks, frequently the end of the honeymoon period. She feels settled enough to act more boisterous possibly in an attempt to "tame" her environment.

Some of our Amazon experts may pop in to give better advice, but you can rule out puberty if she's 15. Might be a hormonal period during which time you can do no better than manage her physiological needs and try to bond more closely by sitting nearby reading and/or talking aloud to her.

This post may help a bit: http://www.parrotforums.com/amazons/72537-cardi-bird-s-progress-thread-3.html#post694858
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http://www.parrotforums.com/amazons/72537-cardi-bird-s-progress-thread-3.html#post694858

 

[CardiBird]

Sorry to hear this. You've had Cardi Bird just about 2 weeks, frequently the end of the honeymoon period. She feels settled enough to act more boisterous possibly in an attempt to "tame" her environment.

Some of our Amazon experts may pop in to give better advice, but you can rule out puberty if she's 15. Might be a hormonal period during which time you can do no better than manage her physiological needs and try to bond more closely by sitting nearby reading and/or talking aloud to her.

This post may help a bit: http://www.parrotforums.com/amazons/72537-cardi-bird-s-progress-thread-3.html#post694858
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http://www.parrotforums.com/amazons/72537-cardi-bird-s-progress-thread-3.html#post694858

Is there anyway to determine if it is hormonal? The vets I work with are so surprised that she is doing this but they only had her two weeks as well.

On another note, it is hard to find a treat Cardi likes. She doesn’t like millet nor pasta or Cheerios. Peanuts and crackers are all she likes and those are so bad for her.

 

[CardiBird]

I’ve seen several times that people have used a towel to wrap the bird and then pet the bird to allow the bird to get them used to them.

 

[Inger]

Treats: try almonds and pine nuts (in tiny pieces). And maybe uncooked pieces of oatmeal. I trained Bumble to do several tricks for oatmeal-then I let her try an almond and oatmeal was no longer acceptable as a reward [emoji23][emoji23]


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[Scott]

Sorry to hear this. You've had Cardi Bird just about 2 weeks, frequently the end of the honeymoon period. She feels settled enough to act more boisterous possibly in an attempt to "tame" her environment.

Some of our Amazon experts may pop in to give better advice, but you can rule out puberty if she's 15. Might be a hormonal period during which time you can do no better than manage her physiological needs and try to bond more closely by sitting nearby reading and/or talking aloud to her.

This post may help a bit: http://www.parrotforums.com/amazons/72537-cardi-bird-s-progress-thread-3.html#post694858
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Is there anyway to determine if it is hormonal? The vets I work with are so surprised that she is doing this but they only had her two weeks as well.

On another note, it is hard to find a treat Cardi likes. She doesn’t like millet nor pasta or Cheerios. Peanuts and crackers are all she likes and those are so bad for her.

Not sure if there are lab tests to determine hormone levels. One of the best ways to determine are specific behaviors that pass fairly quickly. IOW, a return to normal is a sort of diagnosis!

Have you tried various nuts as treat? Most birds will kill for almonds and walnuts. The key is to keep the portion very small to prevent overconsumption. Slivered almonds are popular, and walnuts are soft enough to break into small pieces.

 

[Scott]

I’ve seen several times that people have used a towel to wrap the bird and then pet the bird to allow the bird to get them used to them.

TBH, not the best idea! Parrots are very intelligent and willful. Forcibly holding them to give affection or attention will not likely be rewarded.

 

[wrench13]

Thats fear conditioning and it is not the way to gain trust. You would basically restrain the bird from flight or fight - it screws with their mind. Member what we've said 3 steps forward and some time 5 steps back. Best I can give you is sit next to the birds cage and read aloud to her. Now if she screams and lunges when your right next to the cage, bring the chair back until she calms down, and then read. each day you want to move a tiny bit closer, just untill she exhibits the lunging etc, and back off a bit. This will take time . It may not be your ideal parrot now, but she has so much potential!