Birds of prey and Parrots.....

ellsiebird

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"Ellsie" Female, 2 years old, Senegal
Yesterday i tried my hand at falconary, it was AMAZING.
The man whp ran it was passionate and each bird was his baby, The birds were not just show birds made to go back and forth, they were working/ huntimg birds.
He would even take rescue birds whp havent flown for 10 years, and is teaching them the art of hunting.
They ranged from kestrels, Golden eagles, peragrine falcons, siberian and european eagle owls etc etc....

But the man who ran it brought up some facinating facts about the birds that may well come into effect for parrots....

Female vs Male?? - The female is always larger, even if by the slightest gram, This meaning the females are the more dominant in the relationship and make all the moves, and the Males since the day they are born are receptive to do what teh females want.... So teh age old question what sex?? Females will be stringer spirited and harder to break, and males are easier to train and "do as there told".

Inprint VS parent reared... Its amazing the diffence between an egg that has been left with the parents and then tamed,and an egg taken as soon as it is hatched, as i witnessed with the birds of prey, an Inprint (taken from the start) see themselves as human and when ever the owner walked past would scream and shout for attention and crave for attention, With birds of prey you must teach the bird how to hunt...where as a parent raised and so much quieter and content, and no work is needed to teach them to hunt as it is an automatic skill.
The picture included shows an Inprint we took out that we had to teach to stop landing on people and that he must fly from tree to tree and return when called.
I feelt his is hugely true for Elssie, she is desperately needy, screams for me and when is out wont do her own thing but must be stroked.

Domination... Now i asked if his birds will pick who they llike, but he has had no problems due to huge so******ation, but he agrees that the ellsie sees me as her own and everyone else is a threat, he sudjested if all else has failed she is attacking mike for dominaiton ... he thinks the only way to cure this is over dominating bak, much liek if you had a dog that is testing your limits you musst knock the dog down and lay on it untill it looks away (belive its hard trying to take down a rotti/shepheard!!) he said mike must over power her that when she attacks for no reaon again the he must overpower by 'pinning' her, this would be done by wrapping herin a tea towel as carefully as possible until she is calm and the let her be.... im not 100% on this one, but he garentees it for his birds (Bearing in mind they are capeable of eatinf any parrot!!) so we will see...

It also made mee laugh he said he would rather take a bite form his golden eagle than from any parrot of any size!!
 

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Hm, sounds like an interesting day! I'd love to try falconry I really would!

Not sure about the teatowel thing, as it's even suggested that with dogs you should never attempt to physically dominate them, there are much better steps to gaining the pack leader roll around dogs. Such as eating before the dogs get to eat. etc, it establishes pack order (as the alpha would ALWAYS eat first).

However I don't know enough about parrots and domination etc. I think if she were to attach your other half, YOU should tell her NO, and put her in the cage and cover her up for 10 mins or so. &rinse repeat.

Unless you've tried this already, that'd be my suggestion. ;3
 
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'No's' mean nothing to put her her, and i am heavily attacked if i stop her or try to put her away, this is when i get attacked myself the most, she seems to wind her self up in to distruction, thankfully these are VERY rare compared to when i first had her. I wont opt for the over dominating, but i see the theory. She was an imprint and brought up by a male, her first owner was a male, and she then lived ina pet shop, yes she is one oersoned to me, but her hate is in the male human, no matter who you are, so i dont think its that she clung to a female but that she has been through heavy tourture from a male that she wont forget!!!

I belive in the dominating the dog by pinning, when me and my oartner moved in together, dont get me wrong, he is a lovely dog and wouldnt hurt a fly, but he had no respect for my comands. i would eat before him, be the one that fed him, i would even take his food from him mid eating and pretend i was eating it, this wasnt a problem to him, and it was when i walked him he would completely disobey me... so he got pinned twice, and he got the messgae and hasnt disrespected me since!!... pinning is not cruel, it is what dogs do in the wild, even a mother and puppy, or puppies playing will pin to etablish there position
anyway off subject haha x
 
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I have both raptors and parrots.
I was hooked on falconry in 2002 and I have been adicted since. It has opened my eyes to all bird species incuding parrots and even pigeons which I have added to my flock
 
I am glad that you enjoyed your experiance in the falconry world...but I must say some of the things that you have learnt/say scare me. I am a licanced falconer, I have worked with hawks, falcons, eagles, owls and vultures and I do not agree with some of the statments/facts described. PM me if you would like to chat more about falconry. I am interested in who the mentor was and I can help you find usefull information/people
 
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What would you say that worries you? The domance thing i do not agree with birds, thats not what they do again, that practise would be limited to what ever animal uses it in there natural world...

What birds of prey do you own??
 
thats one for sure....pelase be careful

Right now I am traning in a Harris Hawk and getting ready for a merlin. But to date I have worked with: furgenious hawk, red tail, harris, lanner, gyr, peregrine, bald, great horned, eagle owl, barn owl and hybreds
 
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The main evidence of birds of prey in the area is the absence of rodents. The sight of these birds flying high in the air or perched on a high structure is a picture of true beauty even when contrasted to these birds living in the midst of a commercial agricultural setting.
 
I have worked with many animals of all kinds and think "dominating" them is a bad idea. I've trained dogs, cats, and birds. I always did it with love and respect for the animal. I think dominating them sets up a dynamic that shows them that domination can be done. And later they may try to dominate you.
 

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