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[Inger]

Oh no. I hope doggy is ok.


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[Owlet]

Nothing I can do for her and it's frustrating. So far all labs are coming back clean but this food driven dog is just not eating and throwing up a lot so obviously something is wrong. Going to another vet to get a second opinion. Right now we are thinking she might have an atypical case of Addisons disease but don't have a solid diagnoses yet.

Back on the topic of Lincoln, can someone tell me if I shouldn't be taking him to a shop, even if it's a bird shop with people trained for grooming? I have a couple CAV that I've been looking into that might he able to help with grooming but it'll probably be a tad more expensive which is okay I can handle it but yeah

 

[saxguy64]

Poor doggie! Did vet do x-rays? Possibly something he got into? Not sure of your situation, but I had one that ate a baby diaper which plugged the exit end of his stomach. Required surgery to remove. Hope it's nothing like that.

 

[Owlet]

Xrays came back clear so we don't have a lot to go off right now. To a degree I'm hoping it's Addisons because then I'll at least know how to treat it but right now there's nothing I can do to help her and it's super frustrating.

 

[katie_fleming]

Oh man Poor guy! I'm so sorry to hear that happened. I think bringing them to the vet for trims is probably the safest bet. Hope he heals quickly.


Squirting a bit of saline on his foot a couple times a day should keep it clear of infection.

 

[Anansi]

...Back on the topic of Lincoln, can someone tell me if I shouldn't be taking him to a shop, even if it's a bird shop with people trained for grooming? I have a couple CAV that I've been looking into that might he able to help with grooming but it'll probably be a tad more expensive which is okay I can handle it but yeah

Sorry. I'd actually responded to this question before, but must've forgotten to press send.

I think this is largely a case of on the scene judgement. Personally that seems a careless mistake to me. But you're actually there. You've observed their practices and you're in a much better position to determine if this was just a freak accident. An anomaly that is highly unlikely to ever happen again.

Basically, it's a judgement call. I'd tell you if I thought it was just crazy to go back to them, but honestly no one is better equipped to make that determination than you.

 

[Kentuckienne]

Just saw this. What a scare! I have personally used corn starch on wounds on me ... it doesn't burn, and raw flour can actually be contaminated with salmonella! A whole new reason why I should stop eating raw cookie dough. I just learned that. Anyway, the starch is more highly processed and less likely to be contaminated, and is a better coagulant. Just don't do like me and use starch AND superglue. Just one or the other.

 

[Owlet]

Wait.. super glue to stop bleeding?

 

[Owlet]

So, what I am thinking to do is buy a pair of dog/cat nail clippers and request they use that since I've been told the dremel isn't honestly necessary for nails. I would do his grooming myself but A) Not trained / 0 experience B) Don't wanna be the bad guy since he doesn't like it.

 

[Kentuckienne]

Wait.. super glue to stop bleeding?

I was a rock climber in a previous life. Seems like it, anyway, it was so long ago and I hardly recognize the person in the memory. But if you are climbing and cut yourself, usually a bandaid won't stick because of the sweat/bug/spray/sunscreen/abrasive rock surface, and you can't just bleed all over the rope 'cause that's gross. So you wash it with water from your water bottle, maybe break an alcohol swab and holler loudly as it stings, then you use superglue to glue the edges together. It stops the bleeding, and hurts even WORSE than the alcohol. When you get home you can clean it off and do a proper bandage, but I've never had a cut get infected. I think the germs were just plain terrified me. Or I was very, very lucky. Modern surgeons and docs actually have a special surgical glue that I think it basically more Superglue that they charge more for. I don't see how any germ could live in that stuff.

 

[Kentuckienne]

So, what I am thinking to do is buy a pair of dog/cat nail clippers and request they use that since I've been told the dremel isn't honestly necessary for nails. I would do his grooming myself but A) Not trained / 0 experience B) Don't wanna be the bad guy since he doesn't like it.

Have watched bird nails trimmed with clippers, and I think if you did it regularly it might be ok. If you cut off too much of the tip, it cuts into the quick and bleeds. The dremel tends to make a lot of dust and I've read here, someone whose parrot died after a dremel beak grooming, and learned that if you hold the tool the wrong way it can throw the beak powder into the bird's throat. Some people say they trim one nail a day, so they never get long, and it's so fast that the bird doesn't mind.

 

[Owlet]

I might try that but I can definitely not manage Lincoln's beak by myself.

 

[AmyMyBlueFront]

So, what I am thinking to do is buy a pair of dog/cat nail clippers and request they use that since I've been told the dremel isn't honestly necessary for nails. I would do his grooming myself but A) Not trained / 0 experience B) Don't wanna be the bad guy since he doesn't like it.

Have watched bird nails trimmed with clippers, and I think if you did it regularly it might be ok. If you cut off too much of the tip, it cuts into the quick and bleeds. The dremel tends to make a lot of dust and I've read here, someone whose parrot died after a dremel beak grooming, and learned that if you hold the tool the wrong way it can throw the beak powder into the bird's throat. Some people say they trim one nail a day, so they never get long, and it's so fast that the bird doesn't mind.

My fids doc uses a Dremel on their nails and she is quite good with it.

The last time I took Amy to my local pet shop for a nail clip,she got mutilated by the !@#$%^& idiot with the clipper,who cut THREE of her nails to short,to the point that they bled and MADE HER CRY! For a good twenty minutes after Amy was crying and for over an hour she held one foot up and didn't put weight on it. I went back to that place and gave that person holy hell and told him he will NEVER handle my green dinosaur again! It still pmo when I think about it!!

I'd rather drive twenty-five minutes and PAY the twelve bucks to have the doc do it ( the pet shop doesn't charge me cause I'm a "valued customer"

Never again!

Next Wednesday both Amy and Beebs have a wellness check and getting a birdicure at their CAV!



Jim

 

[Owlet]

The vet I took Lincoln to when I first got him for a check up and trim used a dremel on his nails too, if there's just a safer alternative I rather go with that.

 

[Anansi]

Just saw this. What a scare! I have personally used corn starch on wounds on me ... it doesn't burn, and raw flour can actually be contaminated with salmonella! A whole new reason why I should stop eating raw cookie dough. I just learned that. Anyway, the starch is more highly processed and less likely to be contaminated, and is a better coagulant...

How'd I forget to mention corn starch in my post as well as flour?!? Glad you posted it. And I'd never heard that about salmonella in raw flour! Since I've been equally disposed toward the use of either up until now, this will shift me firmly into the corn starch camp. No negatives about corn starch to my knowledge.

 

[Kentuckienne]

How'd I forget to mention corn starch in my post as well as flour?!? Glad you posted it. And I'd never heard that about salmonella in raw flour! Since I've been equally disposed toward the use of either up until now, this will shift me firmly into the corn starch camp. No negatives about corn starch to my knowledge.

Yeah, the salmonella thing I just learned this year, and I verified in with several sources because I didn't want it to be true. I love to eat cookie dough and cake batter. Guess I better stick with the carrot sticks.

 

[saxguy64]

How'd I forget to mention corn starch in my post as well as flour?!? Glad you posted it. And I'd never heard that about salmonella in raw flour! Since I've been equally disposed toward the use of either up until now, this will shift me firmly into the corn starch camp. No negatives about corn starch to my knowledge.

Yeah, the salmonella thing I just learned this year, and I verified in with several sources because I didn't want it to be true. I love to eat cookie dough and cake batter. Guess I better stick with the carrot sticks.

I don't know on that one. I think the risk is worth the reward lol!

 

[EllenD]

Just saw this. What a scare! I have personally used corn starch on wounds on me ... it doesn't burn, and raw flour can actually be contaminated with salmonella! A whole new reason why I should stop eating raw cookie dough. I just learned that. Anyway, the starch is more highly processed and less likely to be contaminated, and is a better coagulant. Just don't do like me and use starch AND superglue. Just one or the other.

I wanted to say the same thing...Never use styptic powder/Qwik Stop on skin! It burns so badly! I know that if you read the Qwik-Stop container is says it's for "nails, beak, and skin", but that's a bad direction in my opinion...try it on a cut sometime, you'll see what I mean!! Styptic Powder/Qwik Stop is great for nails and some beak bleeding, but when you put it on a skin wound it only causes great pain...Corn Starch is exactly what should be used on all body/skin wounds to stop bleeding if you can't apply constant, steady pressure, or if pressure doesn't stop it...

Personally, I'd be taking him to a CAV to have his nails/beak done from now on. Accidents do happen, but the good thing about a CAV, besides that they only work on birds all day long, every day, is that if something like this happens you have your bird at a CAV already...