Working on trusting each other....

[Carl_the_Alexandrine]

Working on trusting each other! He's not always fond of being held, so when Carl comes over to me on his own accord he gets rewarded with a pine nut or two and a "good boy". Now if I can teach him that my tattoos arent for biting and neither are my ears.....
We are starting from scratch again. Ive been a bit sick for a while so jabent been able to work on clicker/target training for some time. So its back to basics. After a week of steady targeting I plan on trying to get him to step up on a perch. Right now he only steps up if he hops down onto the floor and walks towards me while we are watching tv etc.

All this while trying to teach him not to call if I'm not in the room. Am I doing too much at once? His cage door is always open when I am home but it makes covering his cage etc when he calls/throws a fit pretty well impossible.

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[Carl_the_Alexandrine]

More progress! Hes starting to associate my son going to sleep as time to come out and hang out. We are still working through bite pressure training as he seems to think my tattoos are edible. And seemingly constantly working on tje flock-call thing. Or rather...teaching him to not flock call. But progress is progress!

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[LordTriggs]

sounds good!

I wouldn't cover him if he starts contact calling, this could lead to some troublesome behavior like screaming when they want to be covered and left alone. The best thing with the contact calling if you leave the room is to just wait until they stop (make sure there's an amount of time between the last call and you returning) or if they make a different noise you would like to enforce them making. You'll never be able to 100% stop the contact calling as it's ingrained into their survival instincts to call for the flock

if you happen to find a way to make them think tattoos and ears aren't chew toys please let me know!

 

[Carl_the_Alexandrine]

Ive been trying to remember to call "hello!" When I leave the room and "be right back" if Im jist going to another part of the house and "bye bye" when I'm actually leaving for work. Those calls have minimised greatly...to the point he might do one or two loud beeps and then will call "what you doin?" And make kiss noises.

The one thats really a struggle is if I am in the same room or making dinner (he can still see me from his cage area) he will call loudly. Do I respond once with "hello" and then ignore? Or do I wait until he says "what you doin"

Its something we are going to work through eventually haha just looking for some tips. He has heaps of toys in, on and around his cage and I'm saving up for a proper playgym/stand rather than just his cage top.

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[LordTriggs]

Ive been trying to remember to call "hello!" When I leave the room and "be right back" if Im jist going to another part of the house and "bye bye" when I'm actually leaving for work. Those calls have minimised greatly...to the point he might do one or two loud beeps and then will call "what you doin?" And make kiss noises.

The one thats really a struggle is if I am in the same room or making dinner (he can still see me from his cage area) he will call loudly. Do I respond once with "hello" and then ignore? Or do I wait until he says "what you doin"

Its something we are going to work through eventually haha just looking for some tips. He has heaps of toys in, on and around his cage and I'm saving up for a proper playgym/stand rather than just his cage top.

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I would wait for the "what you doin?", it's a far more pleasent noise and also be a lot quieter. It's how they learn in the wild with their flock. It's been found that parrots in a flock actually assign themselves names and when calling to a specific member of the flock use that call and will never use any other. So only give a hello to the noise you want to be hearing and he will learn very quickly that is what gets a reaction from you

 

[Carl_the_Alexandrine]

Its like hes gone backwards. Only steps up if he flies down from his cage....and his calling has gotten worse. He will call out even if Im sitting right infront of him... (see my most recent thread)

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[LordTriggs]

Its like hes gone backwards. Only steps up if he flies down from his cage....and his calling has gotten worse. He will call out even if Im sitting right infront of him... (see my most recent thread)

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It sounds a little bit like a behavior I've read about before (can't remember what it's called) essentially when they're about to break the habit once and for all they can double down on it, not sure why but it could be part of it. thing is if even 1 family member gives him any attention when he calls out then the training has been demolished and can be worse as he can think that he would need to shout more to get the attention he craves

 

[Jottlebot]

Hi, it's called an extinction burst, basically he thinks it isn't working any more, but just to be sure he dials it up to 11 just before he gives it up to check it really isn't working!

Also my McCoy is being a MONSTER at the moment. I think it's the "terrible twos" even though he's only one! Lots of work on not letting him be the boss. Could be partly the same thing!?

 

[LordTriggs]

Hi, it's called an extinction burst, basically he thinks it isn't working any more, but just to be sure he dials it up to 11 just before he gives it up to check it really isn't working!

THANKYOU! That was really bugging me I couldn't remember the name for the life of me

 

[plumsmum2005]

Interesting!
Extinction burst refers to the phenomenon of a previously reinforced or learned behavior temporarily increasing when the reinforcement for the behavior is removed.