The True Nature of Parrots

[kme3388]

https://www.avianwelfare.org/issues/articles/truenature.htm

A lot of people run into issues with their parrots especially as they mature. I know this seems negative, and it isn't my goal. This is just a really good article to read. I at times do forget that my 2 parrots aren't 100% tame, and never will be.

 

[SailBoat]

The serious problem of a catch-all article is that they really never do much more that gloss-over concerns and issues and this article is a perfect example of glossing-over.

Yes, they did define a couple of issues regarding Parrot care and with hope the right person reads the article and elects not to get a Parrot.

FYI: There are zero Rain Forests in South America! Those thick vegetated, rainy areas are call jungles and are warm to hot year around. It snows in Rainforests!

 

[kme3388]

The serious problem of a catch-all article is that they really never do much more that gloss-over concerns and issues and this article is a perfect example of glossing-over.

Yes, they did define a couple of issues regarding Parrot care and with hope the right person reads the article and elects not to get a Parrot.

FYI: There are zero Rain Forests in South America! Those thick vegetated, rainy areas are call jungles and are warm to hot year around. It snows in Rainforests!

I do agree that this was about talking someone out of getting a parrot instead of educating about parrots. There was nothing in here positive about parrot ownership.

I will fully admit I am not the most educated person on where my parrots come from. I've been trying to find gum trees for my ekkie to chew on, and some things from his homeland with no luck.

 

[Terry57]

If an article like this causes one person who really isn't ready for a bird to change their mind about getting one, it is worth posting. Thank you, kme3388 for posting it.

@SailBoat , I'm confused because Brittanica says there are rainforests in South America.
https://www.britannica.com/place/South-America/Tropical-and-subtropical-rainforests

Did I find an old article that no longer applies?

 

[Rozalka]

Sailboat, I'm confused because Brittanica says there are rainforests in South America.
https://www.britannica.com/place/South-America/Tropical-and-subtropical-rainforests

Did I find an old article that no longer applies?

Because there are rainforests.

From what I remember in the past we were talking about it with Sailboat and he means a totally different kind of forest which shouldn't be named as "rainforest"

 

[SailBoat]

If an article like this causes one person who really isn't ready for a bird to change their mind about getting one, it is worth posting. Thank you, kme3388 for posting it.

@SailBoat , I'm confused because Brittanica says there are rainforests in South America.
https://www.britannica.com/place/South-America/Tropical-and-subtropical-rainforests

Did I find an old article that no longer applies?

I find it difficult to believe that you are confused. You simply found a new world article that has added a new Word front of an old Word. But as you recall, that Word was added in an attempt to halt the rapid destruction of the beautiful Jungles of South America. Sadly, that failed as it only increased the rate of clear cutting the Jungles because everyone knows that clear-cutting Rainforests is easy. So, today, the Jungles of South America are being cut-down at ever increasing rates. And, at the same time, well meaning Parrot owners are taking their beloved Parrots to the real Rainforests and releasing them into that wonderful safe place for Parrots. Sometimes, New World Beliefs Fail.

 

[Terry57]

I find it difficult to believe that you are confused. You simply found a new world article that has added a new Word front of an old Word. But as you recall, that Word was added in an attempt to halt the rapid destruction of the beautiful Jungles of South America. Sadly, that failed as it only increased the rate of clear cutting the Jungles because everyone knows that clear-cutting Rainforests is easy. So, today, the Jungles of South America are being cut-down at ever increasing rates. And, at the same time, well meaning Parrot owners are taking their beloved Parrots to the real Rainforests and releasing them into that wonderful safe place for Parrots. Sometimes, New World Beliefs Fail.

I'm confused because you said that there are no rainforests in South America, yet every link I looked at said that there are.
A new world article? From Britannica? Are you saying the article I found isn't true that there are rainforests in South America?
Can you cite your sources for this statement so I can understand?

FYI: There are zero Rain Forests in South America!

 

[SailBoat]

I'm confused because you said that there are no rainforests in South America, yet every link I looked at said that there are.
A new world article? From Britannica? Are you saying the article I found isn't true that there are rainforests in South America?
Can you cite your sources for this statement so I can understand?

Interesting! But not bitting! Change time lines!

 

[Terry57]

Interesting! But not bitting! Change time lines!

I am completely lost now as to what you're saying. What?

I'm just asking for you to cite your source, as I did. That should be easy.

 

[kme3388]

I find it difficult to believe that you are confused. You simply found a new world article that has added a new Word front of an old Word. But as you recall, that Word was added in an attempt to halt the rapid destruction of the beautiful Jungles of South America. Sadly, that failed as it only increased the rate of clear cutting the Jungles because everyone knows that clear-cutting Rainforests is easy. So, today, the Jungles of South America are being cut-down at ever increasing rates. And, at the same time, well meaning Parrot owners are taking their beloved Parrots to the real Rainforests and releasing them into that wonderful safe place for Parrots. Sometimes, New World Beliefs Fail.

I may be incompetent here but isn't the word rainforest interchangeable with the word jungle?

 

[kme3388]

I find it difficult to believe that you are confused. You simply found a new world article that has added a new Word front of an old Word. But as you recall, that Word was added in an attempt to halt the rapid destruction of the beautiful Jungles of South America. Sadly, that failed as it only increased the rate of clear cutting the Jungles because everyone knows that clear-cutting Rainforests is easy. So, today, the Jungles of South America are being cut-down at ever increasing rates. And, at the same time, well meaning Parrot owners are taking their beloved Parrots to the real Rainforests and releasing them into that wonderful safe place for Parrots. Sometimes, New World Beliefs Fail.

Are we comparing tropical rainforest to a temperate? It is just tempature, and a moisture difference

 

[LaManuka]

I may be incompetent here but isn't the word rainforest interchangeable with the word jungle?

I am most certainly not an authority on these things, but I've been fortunate enough to have visited the magnificent Daintree rainforest here in Queensland on many occasions. To my understanding, the word "jungle" is used to define dense, thick forests that are found primarily in tropical or equatorial regions, and in that case would include rainforests. Rainforests can and do, however, spread much further than the tropics, for example the Tarkine rainforest in Tasmania, which is MUCH further south than one would normally expect to find one, and it is defined as a "cool-temperate rainforest".

 

[HeatherG]

Not wanting to restart any arguments: I get medical rides to some of my appointments and one company has a lot of young drivers from Cambodia, Viet Nam, etc. They are often happy to find someone who wants to talk to them and has a lot of ideas. And I am happy to talk with someone who’s lived in a place I will likely never go.

My family lives in northern Wisconsin. There are two main, big national forests in Wisconsin and they live right on the edges of both. I told my last driver about this. My folks live a bit north of the Menominee reservation, which is one of the greenest places on the planet.

One driver kept referring to these forests as “the rainforest” which tickled me. Then again, those northern forests ARE very dense and probably call to mind the jungle, as opposed to the (sucky) prairies of southern Wi, MN, Iowa.

I have forest starvation living here in the city. It’s sure nice not to need to drive 25 min to get groceries or 1 1/2 hrs to the doctor, but it’s hard to deal with all the people. There are more people living in my apartment building than in the village I lived near.

My family members thought it was cool that they now live in “the rainforest”!

 

[Rozalka]

A map of rainforests:

dark green - tropical rainforest
light green - temperate rainforest

 

[Cottonoid]

A map of rainforests:
View attachment 42762
dark green - tropical rainforest
light green - temperate rainforest

I'm glad to see the rainforest I lived in before moving to Minnesota is nice and green on this map

 

[HeatherG]

I know we don’t REALLY have any rainforests in the Midwest US but it was cute to hear that young man (who lived in a country that had rainforests) be so excited and happy to hear about the wild areas there.

I had always understood that South America does have rainforests. But people need to understand that South America is huge and has all sorts of climates. Close to the equator it is tropical. But in the mountains or way south it is not tropical. There are grasslands, cool climates, mountain climates, maritime, etc.

 

[Cottonoid]

I agree that parts of northern WI feel like real forest! I miss the forest and mountains every day and it's nice having someplace close that is similar in how it "feels" - I love that your driver thought so too!

 

[HeatherG]

It IS real forest! I am talking about the areas close to the upper peninsula of Michigan, some of which have still not been cut.

It was nice to live in a beautiful place where scientists come to study animals and tourists come to vacation, but also it is far away from many resources, education, hospitals…. And the roads are terrible.

Southern WI is a different climate and lifestyle.

 

[Cottonoid]

whoops I meant rain forest!