Please Help I don't know what to do!

[ToobyToo]

I adopted 2 Green Wing Macaws, One about 2mo ago and a different one about a week ago.
Both Came from Different Homes.
My 14yr old Female? is a Beautiful Bird, eats well, looks Healthy, and poops just fine.
The Other is a 7yr old DNA sexed Male, as I was told.
Both Birds don't live in Cages, they each have their own Play stand.
I am concerned about the 7yr old.
His Tail Feathers are almost all missing, the tips of his wing feathers are real ratty looking, his nails are over grown, and his beak is a little long and pointy but it looks like it is pealing.
For the last 3 nights between 3am-5am I hear him Scream and I come down stairs to find him on the Dining room floor.
Last Night I hear the same thing, and came down stairs, and picked him back up and put him back on the stand.
I turned a light on, and watched him from the other room.
He was sitting and he started to like ruffle his feathers, kinda like he
is adjusting them, or maybe a small flapping. then he started to fall, I got up and quickly walked over, he was screaming, He didn't fall to the ground but landed about 2ft onto the tray. I looked at him and his feet were like crossed, and seemed disoriented. It last about 20 sec and it was over.
I went back too bed.
This never happens during the day, and only happens in the early morning, late night hours, he never did it for the first few days we first got him.
I don't know if it is seizers and if so, why only at night?
I think this is why his tail feathers are all broken off, but don't explain why his wing feathers are black edged and ratty looking.
He was fed a Nut base Diet, along with a lot of fruit and some veggies.
My other bird eats Pellet, He won't.
He seems sad to me, but I did just adopt him.
If I put him in a Cage, he holds his poop all night and won't go until I put him on the Play stand. This seems strange too me.
I just don't know what too do!
I know I should take him to the vet, but I wanted to stop threw first and see what you all think.
I really don't want anyone too freak me out, but I am worried sick, and don't want to even go too sleep at night.
It's horrible to be in a deep sleep and wake up too one of your kids screaming.
I don't know if he is in pain, he is a very quite bird, but he won't allow me to pet his back or his head, but he will step up too me and it on my arm.
Please respond as soon as you can, I am so stresses and would love to have some helpful advise on what I can try before I make a Huge Vet Bill.
Thanks in Advance
mel:red::red:

 

[Phlox]

It sounds like a seizure to me. He might need different sleeping arraignments to prevent injuring himself...but a vet visit is definitely in order.

 

[SilverSage]

You are right, he needs to see an avian vet ASAP, what you are describing is not normal. Not that a cage would help a health problem, but it is 100% normal for a bird to hold his or her poop all night, just like us. That is why "the morning poop" is usually so big.

 

[Birdman666]

1. I would cage them. Macaw morning poops are always the largest of the day.

2. I would see a vet.

 

[thekarens]

We had a grey that had seizures. There's medicine that they can give to help with that (if it is seizures) but you really do need to have your bird checked out by a vet.

 

[ToobyToo]

Ok wonderful advise.
But can I ask what kind of medication do they give birds that have seizers?
And how do you give it to him?
I am going to cage him from now on so he don't hurt him self.
I am still afraid that he could fall on a perch or dishes.
Tonight I am sleeping on the couch!
Please keep in touch!

 

[KellyH]

Is there any way you could put a small stool or some type of small, flat table in his cage at night? Maybe it might help him balance and not fall if he was on a flat surface for the night. If not, you could always try putting a soft blanket at the bottom of the cage and cover it in newspaper to keep it clean. That way if he does fall, it won't hurt so bad. Poor thing. Let us know how the vet goes.

 

[goalerjones]

Seizure meds are typically pills, although liquid forms would be easier to give. It can be given thru a syringe that has no needle, or mixed with food.

A towel cushion in the bottom of the cage would help cushion the fall.

Wood planks, 1x4's attached to the side of the cage would give a more stable perch. Drill pilot holes into the plank and use non galvanized bolts and washers to attach it to the cage. Hahnzel has sometimes gotten startled and fallen so she sleeps on the flat plank now.

You also might consider lowering the perches right now until this is under control.

Seizures have lots of origins. But reducing stress levels and sudden noises should help until you've gotten a conclusive diagnosis.