Is this scream “common” for zons?

[Ira7]

I know that certain screams are common within a species, for example, a bird hurting or warning the flock of danger. Different screams.

But are there a wide variety of attention screams, and/or is there a particular attention scream which is very common within species?

For example, Archie screams occasionally, and it sounds like a crow. “Caw! “Caw!” Would this be the same scream in other YNAs, the hot three, etc., assuming it’s an attention scream?

 

[wrench13]

Good question, Ira. 'Boats would likely know, within a specific species, I dare say he has had more Amazons that anyone. I venture that each species has a call or 2 that are still their 'native' tongue, but parrots kept in a home develop their own. Salty's contact call sounds a lot like what I have heard on videos of native YSA populations, but he has a variety of calls now, including one that sounds like an evil mad crazy person that he uses when he is very excited.

 

[Ira7]

Good question, Ira. 'Boats would likely know, within a specific species, I dare say he has had more Amazons that anyone. I venture that each species has a call or 2 that are still their 'native' tongue, but parrots kept in a home develop their own. Salty's contact call sounds a lot like what I have heard on videos of native YSA populations, but he has a variety of calls now, including one that sounds like an evil mad crazy person that he uses when he is very excited.

Archie’s contact call with me is more this particular whistle, something taught. I assume this caw of his is attention, something he came up with on his own.

 

[SailBoat]

Long story short; It depends on the size of the breeders flock and their age (pre import or post import band). There is base calls, but they can be very limited depending on the time spent with parents and/or flock.

Once upon a time, when the majority of the displaced Amazon population was comprised of Imported Parrots it was common for there to be commonality in their calls. But even those 'natural range' calls had specific dialects depending on the overall size of their natural range. This was best seen in Blue-Fronted Amazons as those in far Northern South America had notably different calls then those in Central and Southern South America. Since, the 'Hot Three' are in fact from different regions of the Americas, they naturally had different calls.

Base set of calls: Since there are vast similarities in the physical structure of Parrots there are like vocal abilities. That said, even the base calls are influenced by their birth family. Simply said, if a chick is born into an extended family that include great grandparents, which had been imported as Adults the chick will have a much wider range of sounds /calls than a chick that is hand raised with no or limited contact with its parents.

 

[Ira7]

Long story short; It depends on the size of the breeders flock and their age (pre import or post import band). There is base calls, but they can be very limited depending on the time spent with parents and/or flock.

Once upon a time, when the majority of the displaced Amazon population was comprised of Imported Parrots it was common for there to be commonality in their calls. But even those 'natural range' calls had specific dialects depending on the overall size of their natural range. This was best seen in Blue-Fronted Amazons as those in far Northern South America had notably different calls then those in Central and Southern South America. Since, the 'Hot Three' are in fact from different regions of the Americas, they naturally had different calls.

Base set of calls: Since there are vast similarities in the physical structure of Parrots there are like vocal abilities. That said, even the base calls are influenced by their birth family. Simply said, if a chick is born into an extended family that include great grandparents, which had been imported as Adults the chick will have a much wider range of sounds /calls than a chick that is hand raised with no or limited contact with its parents.

Much more complicated than I thought!

So it all weighs more heavily to socialization than genetics, if I’m understanding you correctly. Or it’s like 50-50.

 

[texsize]

My Yellow Nape has only one scream and it's sort of an AHHH AHHH AHHH.
He does normally have to "work up to it" with noises more like OH OH OH.

My Green Cheek Amazons have two "levels" of scream.
There is the normal volume scream that keeps you from hearing the TV, talking on the phone. It's atoning but you can stand it and wait it out.

Luna has a special "amped up" scream that is so loud and so shrill it makes your ear drums meat in the middle of your head. This is her Jealous scream. I get this scream when I am holding Merlin. It could be a danger scream considering Luna's half wild state.

Then there is the problem that all 3 Amazons copy each other. when copying words it's cute, screams.... not so much.

 

[SailBoat]

The more 'time' the chick is with its Parents, the larger its Amazon vocabulary will be. The older the parents (imported as adults) the more 'natural' the vocalizations will be.

Our LCA (long past) was imported as an Adult and her vocalizations was a joy to listen too. Our current DYHA has a very limited Amazon vocabulary, but a wide range of created and Human speak and sounds. That is likely what your YNA has.

The vocabulary is more depend of what the chick is exposed to than a 'hardwired' set of calls.

 

[AmyMyBlueFront]

"The more 'time' the chick is with its Parents, the larger its Amazon vocabulary will be. The older the parents (imported as adults) the more 'natural' the vocalizations will be."

Amy was 4 months old when I got him..not sure how long the "breeder" had him and he was in a huge flight with other Amazons..so at 4 months I guess he didn't learn his "native tongue" I have never heard him scream,not once.He does plenty of Amazon mumbles and when he does get loud its always in words..maybe I'm lucky..maybe he's just an odd ball lol.



Jim

 

[SailBoat]

My good friend, there is no way that Amy is an Odd Ball. Well, no more than his dad is...