Introducing: Tuna and Pickle! (Just need Mayo for tuna salad :D)

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Budgie: Tuna
Quaker: Pickle
I've considered getting a Whiteface Pearl Cockatiel who'd become "Mayo"... but anyways!

Tuna is my first bird, a very unforgiving and timid little blue budgie. I made what I believe to be a mistake in not getting his wings clipped when I got him from the pet store and he was clearly never hand raised or fed before me. I worked with him relentlessly... pretty sure he started to get fat on all the millet he was eating as I shamelessly baited him into standing on me. Now, he's timid still, but he'll step up and even flutter up to my hand if I'm close-ish and holding out a finger. He sees me as a safe space, more or less. Pretty cool, but we have a ways to go yet. I've had him about 3 months now. Give or take. He's a noisy brat who yells at me when he wants his seeds refreshed (still working on transferring him to pellets; he thinks he's winning... he's probably right) and when he's ready to come out of his cage if I haven't let him out yet. Tuna has a perch I bought at Petsmart sitting by the window and he spends 90% of his day there when he's not in his cage for bedtime. Recently, he's taken to that 10% of fluttering over to Pickle's cage and screaming at him through the bars xD He's hilarious and cocky and he doesn't get left alone with the Quaker anymore lol.

My second and most recent bird acquisition is a doofy Quaker parrot/Monk Parakeet I've named Pickle. He was freshly weaned at 2 months old when I got him two weeks ago and he's been a real adventure. The first couple days I borked up something good by overwhelming him with new foods (I got a little overeager to find things he'd like) and he stopped eating entirely, just kept doing the baby bird head bob dance. Thankfully the breeder is totally supportive and she helped me via message to get him back to normal (a lockup in his cage with his pellets accessible was all he needed! Now I ignore the baby bird dance and it's pretty well gone away). He's a cuddly little turd and he loves his custom built play stand (there was nothing out there that really did what I wanted, so I made my own from wood at Home Depot, and a few improvised -parrot safe- bits) but I'm pretty sure his favourite time of day is mommy's bed play time. I have a king size bed and he and Tuna both come into the bedroom (other animals -three cats, two dogs- get locked out for safety's sake) and there's a box of little foot toys and beads and sticks that gets opened and they proceed to ignore it and go after the toilet paper I use to clean up their little dumps. It's a great time. Tuna is so closed off, but I love seeing him come out of his shell to explore the toys and try to nip at the Quaker that's more than twice his size xD He's such a little ****, but I love him. Pickle, on the other hand, alternates between running around the bed with a plastic spoon in his beak and trying to scale mommy as she lays on her side at the head of the bed and nibble on everything related to me. Mostly grooming, I think, but some of them have been a little nasty. Testing boundaries? Dunno for sure. Also, I'm potty training him, but I swear he knows and is intentionally trying to poop on me whenever he can.

Yesterday, I missed a cat hiding under the bed, but apparently have nothing to worry about since tiny Tuna gave him the what-for and chased him off, screaming and lunging xD It was pretty funny, though definitely an oopsie I'll be avoiding in the future.

I'm excited to be a parront. I always said I don't want kids ever, but I guess that's out the window, especially with the Quaker. lol Here's to 30+ years of loving little bastards <3

Also, HI EVERYONE. I'll share pictures of all the fids in follow-up.
 
Welcome to you, Tuna, and Pickle! Creative names, and yes, Mayo is the perfect candidate for your next bird!

I am wondering if Pickle was completely weaned before joining you? Not an expert on Quakers nor a breeder, but a good many avoidable behaviors are sparked by forced-weaning.

You'll find endless advice for proper nutrition in the Food, Recipes, and Diet forum. The first few "sticky" threads are a great place to start.

Definitely want to avoid having a hidden cat suddenly loom into the picture! It's what they do in the wild, and your birds may not always be able to bluff!
 
Welcome, I concur on what Scott said! Never trust your cat, ever, even a swipe of the paw can lead to a killing infection. My baby quaker did no begging, nor did he stop eating when we brought him home. He was weaned by Abundance and I got him early at seven weeks. Locking him up and forcing him to eat his pellets doesn't sound right.... sometimes they have a set back and you need to go back to offering the hand feeding at least once a day.... weaning early can lead to emotional and behavior problems and health issues, . They all wean at a different rate and age. I do some reading up. Happy to have you here, and yeah more quakers! :) ;) You might hold off on getting Mayo till you see what a handful your quaker will be after he gets out if his baby lovey stage. ;)
 
You sound like an instant party wherever you go, I am glad you came here!


Welcome!!
 
LOL- Not going to lie, I thought this was going to be a post about you introducing the foods (tuna and pickles) to a bird----I was going to say, "woooahhh too much sodium!!!" lol--I was mistaken.

WELCOME!!!
 
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Well, that didn't work lol... Round two, incoming!
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^^^Pickle^^^ (Fresh out of a shower xD)



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^^^Tuna^^^





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^^^Pixel (black and white) and Peanut (silver tabby)^^^ (both Munchkins)





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^^^The play stand I made for Pickle :) ^^^




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^^^Did I forget to mention I have a litter of Munchkin kittens? :D ^^^ They'll be getting raised alongside the birds with calm energy so they'll be safer around them inn future homes :)
 
They are very cute!
Just watch the cats like a hawk ;)
Curiosity killed the cat...but sometimes other things too lol
I am sure you are careful and your have a lovely family.
 
Please be really careful mixing birds and cats. The Bereavement forum is filled with some horrible examples of trust gone so wrong.

Just as a heads-up, don't post images of birds with other animals, we have a strict avoidance policy!
 
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Just as a heads-up, don't post images of birds with other animals, we have a strict avoidance policy!
I read all the rules quite thoroughly, I thought, and I saw nothing on this... did I miss something somewhere?


And don't worry guys, I know cats and I know how to read them. I'd never in a million years leave my birds and cats unattended together, and even attended is limited to when I can actually step in in a flash. My cats have shown curiousity, of course, but they're not allowed to touch the birds. They're already getting bored of them, and don't seem to care if they flutter around already :) Still, I don't plan on ever having them free running together. But I do appreciate the concerns. I've done a LOT of research on how to introduce birds and cats and talked to some people who've had coexisting sets for a long time, etc... I know not everyone does this though, so I appreciate you all keeping newbies on their toes :D
 
Just as a heads-up, don't post images of birds with other animals, we have a strict avoidance policy!
I read all the rules quite thoroughly, I thought, and I saw nothing on this... did I miss something somewhere?


And don't worry guys, I know cats and I know how to read them. I'd never in a million years leave my birds and cats unattended together, and even attended is limited to when I can actually step in in a flash. My cats have shown curiousity, of course, but they're not allowed to touch the birds. They're already getting bored of them, and don't seem to care if they flutter around already :) Still, I don't plan on ever having them free running together. But I do appreciate the concerns. I've done a LOT of research on how to introduce birds and cats and talked to some people who've had coexisting sets for a long time, etc... I know not everyone does this though, so I appreciate you all keeping newbies on their toes :D

The second and fourth lines of the forum rules are the basis for removal, but I agree this policy should be explicitly stated. http://www.parrotforums.com/new-members-welcome/72806-parrot-forum-rules.html

I'll create a topic in the moderator forum to discuss, and we'll add a note. Thanks!!
 
I made what I believe to be a mistake in not getting his wings clipped when I got him from the pet store and he was clearly never hand raised or fed before me.

Just so you know, I *DO NOT* believe that birds *MUST* be clipped in order to start earning their trust! ;)

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUx81WHTUwk"]1 Bird in hand Leads to Many - YouTube[/ame]


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Tuna is a gorgeous little blue boy! Well done!



My second and most recent bird acquisition is a doofy Quaker parrot/Monk Parakeet I've named Pickle. He was freshly weaned at 2 months old when I got him two weeks ago and he's been a real adventure. The first couple days I borked up something good by overwhelming him with new foods (I got a little overeager to find things he'd like) and he stopped eating entirely, just kept doing the baby bird head bob dance. Thankfully the breeder is totally supportive and she helped me via message to get him back to normal (a lockup in his cage with his pellets accessible was all he needed! Now I ignore the baby bird dance and it's pretty well gone away).

This honestly sounds like regression... which often happens when baby birds are transferred to a new home. Not necessarily your fault, other than the fact that you took him away from the only home he knew. It is a common occurrence when taking newly weaned chicks home,even if they have been weaned and eating on their own for two weeks or more. Even if he is eating now, I would still highly suggest keeping a weight on him!


Budgies have big attitudes for such small birds! Sounds like normal behavior! LOL Unfortunately, that behavior can sometimes get them into trouble! So do be cautious!


Birds don't "test boundaries", but they do explore with their beaks, a lot! If this is what's happening, then you want to encourage play with appropriate toys and foraging activities.

They also communicate a lot with their bodies, and if this communicate is ignored, it can lead to actual biting. If this is the case, figure out why they are biting and either avoid or redirect before they bite. If you do get bit, don't ignore or punish them! Simply get them off of you and think of how you can avoid that situation in the future.
 
Little chatterbox/piglets those Budgies are! LOL




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Just so you know, I *DO NOT* believe that birds *MUST* be clipped in order to start earning their trust! ;)

I've read a bajillion opinions on both sides, to be honest. It was a really hard decision for me, but I thought the benefits might outweigh the drawbacks in this case, and I'm not honestly sure yet if it has. He's much more amenable to stepping up, though I do agree that his "trust", per se, isn't necessarily abounding. Pretty sure that's my fault for clipping him though :( I'm doing everything I can to make up for that err in judgment. I likely won't clip him again. Or even have him clipped. Same with Pickle, though the breeder suggested that she clip him beforehand so he'll be easier to handle and less likely to injure himself in a new place. I'd love to see him flying around the house to follow me, he already tries to flutter after me if I leave him on a perch when I walk away lol It's really cute. We're bonding and I'm so excited to be his parront! :D
 
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The second and fourth lines of the forum rules are the basis for removal, but I agree this policy should be explicitly stated. http://www.parrotforums.com/new-members-welcome/72806-parrot-forum-rules.html

I'll create a topic in the moderator forum to discuss, and we'll add a note. Thanks!!


I appreciate that, thanks Scott! I'm always happy to follow the rules, but it helps to know what they are haha. You don't need to worry, however! I don't really put my birds and cats together as it is, though the kittens will be getting acquainted, the birds will be up on perches and closely monitored to prevent them fluttering down to hang out with the kitties, and they won't be allowed to "snuggle" or anything, because that's too close and it could lead to a toxic bath from a kitten to the bird, which I'd never want to risk.

I basically just want to raise kittens that just don't care either way about a bird flying around. I'm attempting to kill their prey drive for feathers through oversaturation :p I have every failsafe possible in place to ensure that no birds (or kittens) get harmed in this process, but I definitely wouldn't trust any Joe Schmoe to do this safely. I'm confident I can provide bird-friendly kittens at the end of their weaning :) I'm actually pretty excited for it, if I'm being honest. I like the idea of opening up the short-legged-cat market to people with feathered friends.
 
The second and fourth lines of the forum rules are the basis for removal, but I agree this policy should be explicitly stated. http://www.parrotforums.com/new-members-welcome/72806-parrot-forum-rules.html

I'll create a topic in the moderator forum to discuss, and we'll add a note. Thanks!!


I appreciate that, thanks Scott! I'm always happy to follow the rules, but it helps to know what they are haha. You don't need to worry, however! I don't really put my birds and cats together as it is, though the kittens will be getting acquainted, the birds will be up on perches and closely monitored to prevent them fluttering down to hang out with the kitties, and they won't be allowed to "snuggle" or anything, because that's too close and it could lead to a toxic bath from a kitten to the bird, which I'd never want to risk.

I basically just want to raise kittens that just don't care either way about a bird flying around. I'm attempting to kill their prey drive for feathers through oversaturation :p I have every failsafe possible in place to ensure that no birds (or kittens) get harmed in this process, but I definitely wouldn't trust any Joe Schmoe to do this safely. I'm confident I can provide bird-friendly kittens at the end of their weaning :) I'm actually pretty excited for it, if I'm being honest. I like the idea of opening up the short-legged-cat market to people with feathered friends.

All of the moderators agree with the ban on images with mixed species in compromising situations. An explicit addition to the rules is forthcoming. Thanks for pointing out the inconsistencies, we strive for clarity.
 
I've read a bajillion opinions on both sides, to be honest. It was a really hard decision for me, but I thought the benefits might outweigh the drawbacks in this case, and I'm not honestly sure yet if it has. He's much more amenable to stepping up, though I do agree that his "trust", per se, isn't necessarily abounding. Pretty sure that's my fault for clipping him though :( I'm doing everything I can to make up for that err in judgment. I likely won't clip him again. Or even have him clipped. Same with Pickle, though the breeder suggested that she clip him beforehand so he'll be easier to handle and less likely to injure himself in a new place. I'd love to see him flying around the house to follow me, he already tries to flutter after me if I leave him on a perch when I walk away lol It's really cute. We're bonding and I'm so excited to be his parront! :D

The majority of the people out there will say to clip... but I've seen so many people say that they can't have their birds flighted because when the bird *IS* flighted, they become "dominant", they bite, they avoid, etc... so they keep their birds clipped to keep their "friendship" with the bird.

To me, I see it differently... the bird has no choice but to comply so when clipped, they act nice. When flighted, when they have the choice, the choice is to avoid.

That tells me that these people have not worked with their birds well. If flighted and trained "right", the birds would still *CHOOSE* to be with them, not avoid. I've had parent raised birds choose to fly to me because they want to. Even a wild caught imported bird! Although for her, I didn't work with her long enough to help her overcome her fear of humans because the last thing I want is to see her in a pet home where someone would clip her... I'd rather see her in an aviary situation.


Just the way I see it, I would rather them choose to be with me, than being forced to.
 
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Just the way I see it, I would rather them choose to be with me, than being forced to.


That's how I feel, too! I was new to parrots when I got my budgie, and I was reading it everywhere that clipping can help you tame them. But I've learned with my Quaker that taming and love are two very different things. That's why I won't be clipping again.

I actually had a beautiful moment earlier today! I took both the birds into the shower with me (I made a shower perch for them that hangs off my shower curtain, since my walls are textured) and Tuna fluttered away at first, but I brought him back in and moved him slowly to get him used to the shower nearby (they weren't under it, just next to it, so spray/steam can get them damp) and he sat there quiet, just breathing and looking at me. Finally about halfway through rinsing myself off, I hear him start chirping contentedly. I was so happy, I started singing for him, which he seems to like. Then, after I got out of the shower, I brought both birds back to my room so I could get dressed, and sett them both on the bed to hang out. Tuna flew as high as he could and attached himself to my shirt and chirped at me. That's the first time he's flown straight to me! Granted, with clipped wings his flight is limited, but he came to me! What a great day it is today :D
 

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