...Did we chase off a member?

[Karigan]

Hey,

Has anyone seen Kani, Birdy Girl or Lucky Girl around? We figured them to be the same girl, a 12 year old from Australia, and I can't find anything on either of them...

Did we scare her off with our accusations? If so I feel just horrible thinking she won't have the forums support when she gets her IRN.

 

[Finch_Breeder]

I think we may of!

 

[happycat]

Can't see why not.
Some people were kind of harsh. I used to want a ferret, and when I joined the forum asking for info they were all saying how I shouldnt get one and were all kind of rude. I would say how the only thing I didnt like was that most of them got cancer, and Id rather not pay over 1000 dollars paying for it and theyd say "Do you even know how hard ferrets are???" One said "Just get a goldfish" So I left that forum.
I feel bad saying she should wait for a parrot, hope she comes back!

 

[henpecked]

This happens more often than you think, many new members only post a couple of times. That and peoples get banned because they don't fit in or have the social skills to fit in. We all should be a bit more understanding, helping birds and their parronts, needs to be more of a priority. Yes we lose patience with the same old questions and situations but at least these members are making the effort by joining a forum.I hope i haven't been short or insensitive. I hope she keeps in touch.

 

[kc_y0]

She was banned. Pretty sure its because she made multiple accounts, each pretending to be a different person even having conversations with herself, no surprise people were harsh, thats VERY immature and against the rules.

 

[MonicaMc]

Forum are full of people who stick around, people who visit every once in a while but not frequently, as well as members who only come on for a question or two, maybe even stay for a little while, then disappear.

I hope she has full support by her parents in her decision to purchase a medium sized bird! I've owned birds for just a smidge over half my life (not saying much, considering my age! ), and I know when I was younger, I probably shouldn't have had birds. I wasn't aware that avian vets existed, let alone lived close to one (town population 90. One traffic light, and not a red, yellow and green one at that!), it took me years to figure out what a healthy diet really was made of (information back when I first got into birds was horrible!), and I really didn't have any real support from family members. In fact, my grandmother kept joking about how the birds were dog or cat food and that how 'they' will eat one of the birds. She still does so ocasionally to this day... don't mind the fact that my very first budgie that I had was killed by a cat at her house. The situation was somewhat unavoidable, considering the circumstances...


If she has full support by her family, I not only envy her, but would encourage her! Especially if she has any ideas about where she will be after highschool. College? University? Social life?

If she doesn't have that support, then yes, I'd have to agree that it may be better to wait until she could get a job of some sort (part time? after school? neighborhood work?) to pay for everything herself. It would make things so much easier!


More or less, it doesn't hurt to plan out your life if you have pets! And especially, parrots!

 

[Karigan]

Oooooh... i guess that would make sense. I just found it odd that my messages to her were acting screwy.

 

[happycat]

She was banned. Pretty sure its because she made multiple accounts, each pretending to be a different person even having conversations with herself, no surprise people were harsh, thats VERY immature and against the rules.

True, but I can understand why. She probably thought if people still knew she was Kani, they would keep making comments about how she shouldnt get a bird.

 

[kc_y0]

I did feel kind of bad for her, maybe she was just a troubled lonely girl, but she kept telling us she had birds in the past - a conure was one of them, which apparently died, but then in one of her first threads she was asking about getting a conure and asking for the cage set up, what their diet was like etc. So too many lies, she was untrustworthy. If she had of told the truth, not made so many accounts, and LISTENED to people's advice, she would still be here. One example was when she put up pictures of items she wanted to use in a toy, and all of us told her that the paper clips were very dangerous and not to use them, but then she did anyway. :\

 

[henpecked]

Hopefully being a forum member was a positive , she learned something. ' Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive' .

 

[Birdlover11]

I think I know why she made multiple accounts. Most of us know how many threads she made on websites and books, when we stopped giving her info and told her that we can't give her info she needs to research she mightev thought of making another account and asking for information again. Anybody think it could be this ?

 

[kc_y0]

Yes I do think that is why as well Birdlover. But when she started talking to herself I thought it was going too far.
We gave her a lot of good websites though, so she should have been able to get most of her answers from those, she wasn't asking specific questions either.

 

[Dharmawaits]

I've been on the Internet since very early nineties. It's been a long time since I have thought this about anyone on a forum. But she felt like a troll. It felt like she or who knows he was trying to rile us up. Especially with the type of bird she should get. I don't know something was really off about all of it.

 

[kc_y0]

I had that thought too, that she was trolling us. Either a troll or a troubled little girl.

 

[njgray21]

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is a troll? At least when it comes to Internet forums?

 

[Karigan]

Trolling is twofold. Short for Patroling, and Troll as in the nasty-under-the-bridge-monster. Basically someone who goes on forums for stalkish and negative reasons. Usually they're haters, but thankfully I've only run into one of these on this forum so far.

I don't think that is what she was really doing though. I think that she thought that if 'someone' in her similar position, who didn't loose three birds and ask repetitive questions, we might answer differently. She wanted to hear the "yes, go ahead, get the biggest bird in the store!" instead of the sound realistic advice she got. Childish... but I get why she did it. You can tell a kid a million reasons why they can't have something, but in the end it still comes down to, "BUT I WANT IT!!!"

I mean no offense to other younger members, most of you seem very mature for your age.

 

[Thingamagigs]

I think a ban was appropriate. I think she was getting over excited about getting a bird and needed some time out anyway.

It seemed to me that half of the appeal of getting a bird for her was being on the forums talking about it. IF she gets a bird, this forum or any forum will not help her what so ever. She was given advice over and over again and took none of it under her wing what so ever and may in fact escalate her behaviour instead. She merely wanted attention. On top of that, her continual questioning on the same thing was becoming stressful to other members. She apparently has the guidance of a handrearer and she has been researching on the internet...if she is genuine that will be a good start.

I do apologise for sounding harsh. But the reality is that the internet gives all kinds of troubled people access to socialise. Troubled or not, they need to learn how to be socially appropriate. My daughter is 7 years old and has a slight intellectual disability (septo optic dysplasia) and she has more social control. There is no excuse for it and in the end it comes down to what is best for the forum as a whole. It is not our responsibility to monitor the behaviour of a 12 year old girl. I hope her parents understand her and where she is coming from, but if they dont there is nothing we can do about it. I dont think any of you have reason to feel bad, you did your best to help but this was a situation where forum assistance just wasnt going to cut it.

I dont think an IRN would have been appropriate for her anyway, I think their standoffish nature would have troubled her. With real life guidance perhaps a little conure or budgie would be appropriate, but she needs real life guidance from her parents.

 

[antoinette]

No one chased off kani333

Unfortunately kani333 went against all forum rules and regulations, she was warned constantly, but did not adhere to the warnings.

Kani333 been under scrutiny, followed and discussed by all the Moderator's.

Kani333 has been banned for a valid reason/s.

Us Moderator's are doing our best to keep the forum running smoothly for all to enjoy.